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Reply #30 posted 06/15/02 3:35am

subyduby

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I like her more now that she's transitioned to a more hip-hop, r&b sound. I didn't like her that much in the beginning because I thought she was trying to be too "white." I found out later Tommy Mottola was the mastermind behind all that, even telling her she couldn't wear light colored clothing because she would look too brown. Only "certain" fans don't like her now. One girl told me that she's ghetto. What makes her ghetto exactly??? It's amazing what you can without even saying it



HAVING AN ATTITUDE MAKES U GHETTO.
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Reply #31 posted 06/15/02 3:43am

Janfriend

subyduby said:

Janfriend said:

I like her more now that she's transitioned to a more hip-hop, r&b sound. I didn't like her that much in the beginning because I thought she was trying to be too "white." I found out later Tommy Mottola was the mastermind behind all that, even telling her she couldn't wear light colored clothing because she would look too brown. Only "certain" fans don't like her now. One girl told me that she's ghetto. What makes her ghetto exactly??? It's amazing what you can without even saying it



HAVING AN ATTITUDE MAKES U GHETTO.


Mariah doesn't have an attitude
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Reply #32 posted 06/15/02 4:30am

Creame

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1 word that describes Mariah: FAKE

eye think that is y they call her Mariah Scary, but eye just didn't c it back in da day.
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Reply #33 posted 06/15/02 4:35am

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subyduby said:

HAVING AN ATTITUDE MAKES U GHETTO.
Yet another brilliant statement from the uber genius.
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Reply #34 posted 06/15/02 4:36am

Janfriend

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1 word that describes Mariah: FAKE

eye think that is y they call her Mariah Scary, but eye just didn't c it back in da day.


I think they called her Paryah Scary
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Reply #35 posted 06/15/02 5:18am

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I like her because she is crazy!
Peace and Love!
Peace and Love!
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Reply #36 posted 06/15/02 5:56am

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HoneyLove2the9s said:

I am not even gonna get in to my "Mariah defense" but I will say this. Okay..I know some of ya'll know how people that watched Prince with his ass cut out on MTV, have maybe seen Purple Rain, and heard a couple of his more pop ballads (EX. 1999, When Doves Cry, etc.) talk about the man like "Prince is a purple wearing, faggot ass, fairy angel dust, princess" And you just have to sit there and rolleyes cause you know that they know nothing about his music, his Pimpology, or his holier than thou beliefs and are just judging him off his high heels, yellow booty cut out suit, and a nakkid image of him in the bath tub with some doves flying around. Well, its like that sorta with Mariah. If your not in to her and I mean really in to her then it is sorta hard to understand why she does the things she does just like people don't understand our little purple brutha and thats why he is mistaken by so many. Is ANYBODY feelin what I am trying to say? So nowI am just gonna do like I did with JLo and be like...

flipped off
I Love Mariah!


agreed! i love mariah...although i am not as fond of her music these days as i was a while ago ("butterfly" was her last quality album by the way, & her best), but i still buy her albums and listen to her music. she has the most amazing voice.

and to the harlepolis...the original "beautiful ones" is so much better than mariah's. her's is good, but damn, it has sisquo in it, and that makes the song lose some cool points wink plus, you just can't beat p's emotion in the original.
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Reply #37 posted 06/15/02 6:43am

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Why I hate Mariah Carey -- by Aaron Ras.. er, um, "Aaron Forever"

She sucks. Plain and simple.

But...

to expand...

She's nasty. She doesn't sing worth a damn anymore. She used to have a beautiful singing voice. She doesn't use it anymore. She just caterwalls like a wounded animal through every record. Her albums have all sounded the same since halfway through Music Box? And I say halfway through that one, because half of that album pretty much repeated the other half of it.

As for her "black roots"... She makes me ill when she starts talking about the prejudice she faced growing up bi-racial. Excuse me... but... hello? Did anyone know she was even bi-racial until she started whining about it? I didn't. Most people didn't. You can't tell by looking at her. So exactly what was so difficult for her? She's as white-looking as they come.

On top of this, she's a complete skank. Now, I can appreciate skankiness if it has some underlying reason. For instance, take Madonna. She's done some pretty skanky stuff. However, this has all come from a place, I believe, where Madonna wants to shock. Push buttons. Brain buttons. What buttons is Mariah pushing with her skankiness? Dick buttons. That's it. She's just a skank at heart. There is no movtive for it other than to be out there being a ho, and to lure unsuspecting rappers into remixing her songs and appearing in her videos.

She's trash. Tommy Matolla has proven that you can take the girl out of the trailer park but you can't take the trailer park out of the girl. Without him, she's sunk to the level of every other two-bit slut on the radio and on MTV.

I'll edit appropriately, as more reasons for such a burning white-hot hatred is sparked in me by the mere mention of her name.
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Reply #38 posted 06/15/02 11:56am

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Mariah is the most annoying performer alive. Period! Everyone raves about her vocal range. It's like nails on a chalk board! Good for her that she can sing that high. That doesn't mean she should! I own scissors, but I don't cut my own damn hair! I realize that would be a horrible idea! She needs to realize that her high-pitches squealing sounds like shit! I know exactly why Tommy Matolla left her! Can you imagine her screeching in bed! Good Gawd!

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Reply #39 posted 06/15/02 12:52pm

gamillah

I love Mariah Carey. She should be singin, "Don't hate me cuz I'm Beautiful".

She needs a nice Italian man, like me, to show her how 2 be a star again and I wold treat her right.
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Reply #40 posted 06/15/02 4:52pm

Finess

on the one ya'll say it... skankass!!!
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Reply #41 posted 06/15/02 5:10pm

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Harlepolis said:


LOL No 4 real, why you guys hate her so much??


When Mariah hit with her first album, I thought she was a breath of fresh air. Slowly but surely, she became an annoying, overly fake, publicity machine (and run of the mill music machine) with no feel whatsoever (to my ears). Also, 'showing off' her vocal prowess for the hell of it in songs gets really tiring. Kinda like a guitarist going nuts all the time just 'cause he can.

So for me, she is far from down to earth, and far from non-annoying. Dunno if things have changed recently; I haven't been looking.
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Reply #42 posted 06/15/02 5:15pm

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Aaron said:

Why I hate Mariah Carey -- by Aaron Ras.. er, um, "Aaron Forever"

She sucks. Plain and simple.

But...

to expand...

She's nasty. She doesn't sing worth a damn anymore. She used to have a beautiful singing voice. She doesn't use it anymore. She just caterwalls like a wounded animal through every record. Her albums have all sounded the same since halfway through Music Box? And I say halfway through that one, because half of that album pretty much repeated the other half of it.

As for her "black roots"... She makes me ill when she starts talking about the prejudice she faced growing up bi-racial. Excuse me... but... hello? Did anyone know she was even bi-racial until she started whining about it? I didn't. Most people didn't. You can't tell by looking at her. So exactly what was so difficult for her? She's as white-looking as they come.

On top of this, she's a complete skank. Now, I can appreciate skankiness if it has some underlying reason. For instance, take Madonna. She's done some pretty skanky stuff. However, this has all come from a place, I believe, where Madonna wants to shock. Push buttons. Brain buttons. What buttons is Mariah pushing with her skankiness? Dick buttons. That's it. She's just a skank at heart. There is no movtive for it other than to be out there being a ho, and to lure unsuspecting rappers into remixing her songs and appearing in her videos.

She's trash. Tommy Matolla has proven that you can take the girl out of the trailer park but you can't take the trailer park out of the girl. Without him, she's sunk to the level of every other two-bit slut on the radio and on MTV.

I'll edit appropriately, as more reasons for such a burning white-hot hatred is sparked in me by the mere mention of her name.




I almost fell outta my seat laughing at this. biggrin
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Reply #43 posted 06/15/02 5:28pm

DavidEye

I love Mariah.She has a VOICE like no other.I just think she needs stronger material.I'd like to see her make a good,Old fashioned "Soul" album,with real musicians and no samples.
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Reply #44 posted 06/15/02 6:48pm

Harlepolis

HoneyLove2the9s said:

I am not even gonna get in to my "Mariah defense" but I will say this. Okay..I know some of ya'll know how people that watched Prince with his ass cut out on MTV, have maybe seen Purple Rain, and heard a couple of his more pop ballads (EX. 1999, When Doves Cry, etc.) talk about the man like "Prince is a purple wearing, faggot ass, fairy angel dust, princess" And you just have to sit there and rolleyes cause you know that they know nothing about his music, his Pimpology, or his holier than thou beliefs and are just judging him off his high heels, yellow booty cut out suit, and a nakkid image of him in the bath tub with some doves flying around. Well, its like that sorta with Mariah. If your not in to her and I mean really in to her then it is sorta hard to understand why she does the things she does just like people don't understand our little purple brutha and thats why he is mistaken by so many. Is ANYBODY feelin what I am trying to say? So nowI am just gonna do like I did with JLo and be like...

flipped off
I Love Mariah!


Man somebody have to give yo a WARM salute 4 what you said, glad I'm not the only one here.
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Reply #45 posted 06/15/02 6:51pm

Moonbeam

Aaron said:

Why I hate Mariah Carey -- by Aaron Ras.. er, um, "Aaron Forever"

She sucks. Plain and simple.

But...

to expand...

She's nasty. She doesn't sing worth a damn anymore. She used to have a beautiful singing voice. She doesn't use it anymore. She just caterwalls like a wounded animal through every record. Her albums have all sounded the same since halfway through Music Box? And I say halfway through that one, because half of that album pretty much repeated the other half of it.

As for her "black roots"... She makes me ill when she starts talking about the prejudice she faced growing up bi-racial. Excuse me... but... hello? Did anyone know she was even bi-racial until she started whining about it? I didn't. Most people didn't. You can't tell by looking at her. So exactly what was so difficult for her? She's as white-looking as they come.

On top of this, she's a complete skank. Now, I can appreciate skankiness if it has some underlying reason. For instance, take Madonna. She's done some pretty skanky stuff. However, this has all come from a place, I believe, where Madonna wants to shock. Push buttons. Brain buttons. What buttons is Mariah pushing with her skankiness? Dick buttons. That's it. She's just a skank at heart. There is no movtive for it other than to be out there being a ho, and to lure unsuspecting rappers into remixing her songs and appearing in her videos.

She's trash. Tommy Matolla has proven that you can take the girl out of the trailer park but you can't take the trailer park out of the girl. Without him, she's sunk to the level of every other two-bit slut on the radio and on MTV.

I'll edit appropriately, as more reasons for such a burning white-hot hatred is sparked in me by the mere mention of her name.


OMG- so true. eek I love you. kiss
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Reply #46 posted 06/15/02 7:04pm

Harlepolis

Aaron said:

Why I hate Mariah Carey -- by Aaron Ras.. er, um, "Aaron Forever"

She sucks. Plain and simple.

But...

to expand...

She's nasty. She doesn't sing worth a damn anymore. She used to have a beautiful singing voice. She doesn't use it anymore. She just caterwalls like a wounded animal through every record. Her albums have all sounded the same since halfway through Music Box? And I say halfway through that one, because half of that album pretty much repeated the other half of it.

As for her "black roots"... She makes me ill when she starts talking about the prejudice she faced growing up bi-racial. Excuse me... but... hello? Did anyone know she was even bi-racial until she started whining about it? I didn't. Most people didn't. You can't tell by looking at her. So exactly what was so difficult for her? She's as white-looking as they come.

On top of this, she's a complete skank. Now, I can appreciate skankiness if it has some underlying reason. For instance, take Madonna. She's done some pretty skanky stuff. However, this has all come from a place, I believe, where Madonna wants to shock. Push buttons. Brain buttons. What buttons is Mariah pushing with her skankiness? Dick buttons. That's it. She's just a skank at heart. There is no movtive for it other than to be out there being a ho, and to lure unsuspecting rappers into remixing her songs and appearing in her videos.

She's trash. Tommy Matolla has proven that you can take the girl out of the trailer park but you can't take the trailer park out of the girl. Without him, she's sunk to the level of every other two-bit slut on the radio and on MTV.

I'll edit appropriately, as more reasons for such a burning white-hot hatred is sparked in me by the mere mention of her name.




She's as white-looking as they what?? LOL biggrin nah baby its the other way around. Ever scince she came to this music world, she've been saying she's Bi-racial(HALF BLACK+HALF WHITE) but the media wasn't having that esp our media(Blacks). But when she divoreced from her husbend they(Black media) be saying: OH she knew she was a sistah but she was denying it" SAW WHAT? Ya'll the ones who won't buy the fact hat she's BLACK. As 4 her, she did her part which is praising her ROOTS and that enough 4 me to know.
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Reply #47 posted 06/15/02 7:20pm

Harlepolis

DavidEye said:

I love Mariah.She has a VOICE like no other.I just think she needs stronger material.I'd like to see her make a good,Old fashioned "Soul" album,with real musicians and no samples.


Like L-Boogie??wink BTW I saw there and you have real good openions.
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Reply #48 posted 06/15/02 7:51pm

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I found Mariah's dolphin imitations mildly amusing at first, but that wore out real quick, and the rest of her stuff has all sounded like the same song over and over.

Whenever some wailing chick is put forth as a "diva" I tune out before the drum machine even starts up. Please, God, no more divas!

sigh...
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #49 posted 06/15/02 8:01pm

Harlepolis

teller said:

I found Mariah's dolphin imitations mildly amusing at first, but that wore out real quick, and the rest of her stuff has all sounded like the same song over and over.

Whenever some wailing chick is put forth as a "diva" I tune out before the drum machine even starts up. Please, God, no more divas!

sigh...


LOL I feel you,,

Sistah girl Patti HATES this term becoz its sooo easy to HANDLE she said. And its true, they be callin these girlz Alicia/Beyonce/Christina/Bitchney,,DIVA. At least Mariah & Whitney worth this title cuz they worked their asses for it BUT damn already I'm sick of this term
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Reply #50 posted 06/15/02 9:40pm

DavidEye

Aaron said:

Why I hate Mariah Carey -- by Aaron Ras.. er, um, "Aaron Forever"

She sucks. Plain and simple.

But...

to expand...

She's nasty. She doesn't sing worth a damn anymore. She used to have a beautiful singing voice. She doesn't use it anymore. She just caterwalls like a wounded animal through every record. Her albums have all sounded the same since halfway through Music Box? And I say halfway through that one, because half of that album pretty much repeated the other half of it.

As for her "black roots"... She makes me ill when she starts talking about the prejudice she faced growing up bi-racial. Excuse me... but... hello? Did anyone know she was even bi-racial until she started whining about it? I didn't. Most people didn't. You can't tell by looking at her. So exactly what was so difficult for her? She's as white-looking as they come.

On top of this, she's a complete skank. Now, I can appreciate skankiness if it has some underlying reason. For instance, take Madonna. She's done some pretty skanky stuff. However, this has all come from a place, I believe, where Madonna wants to shock. Push buttons. Brain buttons. What buttons is Mariah pushing with her skankiness? Dick buttons. That's it. She's just a skank at heart. There is no movtive for it other than to be out there being a ho, and to lure unsuspecting rappers into remixing her songs and appearing in her videos.

She's trash. Tommy Matolla has proven that you can take the girl out of the trailer park but you can't take the trailer park out of the girl. Without him, she's sunk to the level of every other two-bit slut on the radio and on MTV.

I'll edit appropriately, as more reasons for such a burning white-hot hatred is sparked in me by the mere mention of her name.



A bit harsh,dontcha think? I find it kinda odd how Prince fans can criticize another artist for wearing revealing clothing:) Mariah has a great body,why shouldn't she show off a little? You know how the saying goes..."if you've got it,flaunt it".As for her complaining about the prejudice she experienced...many bi-racial kids experience prejudice from BOTH sides.They're "too White" to hang with the Black kids,they're "too Black" to hang with the White kids.Mariah is not making this stuff up,it is real."She doesn't sing worth a damn anymore?" Have you heard the songs "Never Too Far Away" and "Twister" from the 'Glitter' soundtrack? Mariah can still sing her ass off! Like I said,with stronger material she is a force to be reckoned with.
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Reply #51 posted 06/15/02 10:00pm

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Hate is such a strong word. I would not say I hate Mariah. I just get this really nauseous feeling every time I see her.

I liked her music when she started, but after her marriage/divorce with Tommy Mottolla, she really went downhill.

She presents herself in such a degrading and sleazy way. Find some clothes that fit, girl! bahhh

I don't even enjoy her music anymore. Alot of it probably has to do with the fucked up image she presents now.
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Reply #52 posted 06/15/02 10:07pm

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I read somewhere Mariah recently got a $20 million recording contract (label, can't remember) so we should be hearing from her very soon . . . .
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Reply #53 posted 06/15/02 10:39pm

DavidEye

Yes,Mariah now records for Island/Def Jam Records and she was even given her own label as part of the deal.She is working with Jam and Lewis on her new CD,which is due by Christmas.

Btw,a new Whitney Houston album is also due this fall.Because of their recent personal problems,look for both CDs to be heavily scrutinized and examined by the media:)
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Reply #54 posted 06/16/02 8:23am

Aaron

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DavidEye said:


A bit harsh,dontcha think? I find it kinda odd how Prince fans can criticize another artist for wearing revealing clothing:)


ah, an old defense. i've used this one often, myself, when Prince fans are ragging on Madonna. the difference is, you can take from Prince's and Madonna's skankiness an intent to shock, to open minds, to break down barriers. Mariah is the epitome of barriers.


Mariah has a great body,why shouldn't she show off a little? You know how the saying goes..."if you've got it,flaunt it".


she has fat knees and a ubiquitous camel toe biggrin



As for her complaining about the prejudice she experienced...many bi-racial kids experience prejudice from BOTH sides.They're "too White" to hang with the Black kids,they're "too Black" to hang with the White kids.Mariah is not making this stuff up,it is real.


sure. how come she only started whining about it when she needed some street cred to warrant sitting on Puff Daddy's, ODB's and Jay-Z's laps in her videos?


"She doesn't sing worth a damn anymore?" Have you heard the songs "Never Too Far Away" and "Twister" from the 'Glitter' soundtrack?


yes. i put these at the top of the list of evidence that she can no longer sing. she hasn't used her voice well at all since Daydream.


Mariah can still sing her ass off! Like I said,with stronger material she is a force to be reckoned with.



"Mariah" and "stronger material" are phrases that are kind of at odds, aren't they? at least since her "Emotions" album anyway.

it's all retreads. since Music Box. Dreamlover = Fantasy = Honey = Heartbreaker. Hero = Butterfly = Never Too Far = Thank God I Found You, etc.
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Reply #55 posted 06/16/02 6:22pm

Harlepolis

Aaron said:

DavidEye said:


A bit harsh,dontcha think? I find it kinda odd how Prince fans can criticize another artist for wearing revealing clothing:)


ah, an old defense. i've used this one often, myself, when Prince fans are ragging on Madonna. the difference is, you can take from Prince's and Madonna's skankiness an intent to shock, to open minds, to break down barriers. Mariah is the epitome of barriers.


Mariah has a great body,why shouldn't she show off a little? You know how the saying goes..."if you've got it,flaunt it".


she has fat knees and a ubiquitous camel toe biggrin



As for her complaining about the prejudice she experienced...many bi-racial kids experience prejudice from BOTH sides.They're "too White" to hang with the Black kids,they're "too Black" to hang with the White kids.Mariah is not making this stuff up,it is real.


sure. how come she only started whining about it when she needed some street cred to warrant sitting on Puff Daddy's, ODB's and Jay-Z's laps in her videos?


"She doesn't sing worth a damn anymore?" Have you heard the songs "Never Too Far Away" and "Twister" from the 'Glitter' soundtrack?


yes. i put these at the top of the list of evidence that she can no longer sing. she hasn't used her voice well at all since Daydream.


Mariah can still sing her ass off! Like I said,with stronger material she is a force to be reckoned with.



"Mariah" and "stronger material" are phrases that are kind of at odds, aren't they? at least since her "Emotions" album anyway.

it's all retreads. since Music Box. Dreamlover = Fantasy = Honey = Heartbreaker. Hero = Butterfly = Never Too Far = Thank God I Found You, etc.



Remember, what you said are jut OPENIONS and not FACTS,,so!!!
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Reply #56 posted 06/16/02 6:49pm

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Harlepolis said:



Remember, what you said are jut OPENIONS and not FACTS,,so!!!



actually, they're OPINIONS.

but as far as Mariah's concerned, they're just as good as facts wink
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Reply #57 posted 06/16/02 8:22pm

Moonbeam

Aaron said:

DavidEye said:


A bit harsh,dontcha think? I find it kinda odd how Prince fans can criticize another artist for wearing revealing clothing:)


ah, an old defense. i've used this one often, myself, when Prince fans are ragging on Madonna. the difference is, you can take from Prince's and Madonna's skankiness an intent to shock, to open minds, to break down barriers. Mariah is the epitome of barriers.


Mariah has a great body,why shouldn't she show off a little? You know how the saying goes..."if you've got it,flaunt it".


she has fat knees and a ubiquitous camel toe biggrin



As for her complaining about the prejudice she experienced...many bi-racial kids experience prejudice from BOTH sides.They're "too White" to hang with the Black kids,they're "too Black" to hang with the White kids.Mariah is not making this stuff up,it is real.


sure. how come she only started whining about it when she needed some street cred to warrant sitting on Puff Daddy's, ODB's and Jay-Z's laps in her videos?


"She doesn't sing worth a damn anymore?" Have you heard the songs "Never Too Far Away" and "Twister" from the 'Glitter' soundtrack?


yes. i put these at the top of the list of evidence that she can no longer sing. she hasn't used her voice well at all since Daydream.


Mariah can still sing her ass off! Like I said,with stronger material she is a force to be reckoned with.



"Mariah" and "stronger material" are phrases that are kind of at odds, aren't they? at least since her "Emotions" album anyway.

it's all retreads. since Music Box. Dreamlover = Fantasy = Honey = Heartbreaker. Hero = Butterfly = Never Too Far = Thank God I Found You, etc.


I agree 100% Aaron.
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Reply #58 posted 06/16/02 8:30pm

Harlepolis

Moonbeam said:

Aaron said:

DavidEye said:


A bit harsh,dontcha think? I find it kinda odd how Prince fans can criticize another artist for wearing revealing clothing:)


ah, an old defense. i've used this one often, myself, when Prince fans are ragging on Madonna. the difference is, you can take from Prince's and Madonna's skankiness an intent to shock, to open minds, to break down barriers. Mariah is the epitome of barriers.


Mariah has a great body,why shouldn't she show off a little? You know how the saying goes..."if you've got it,flaunt it".


she has fat knees and a ubiquitous camel toe biggrin



As for her complaining about the prejudice she experienced...many bi-racial kids experience prejudice from BOTH sides.They're "too White" to hang with the Black kids,they're "too Black" to hang with the White kids.Mariah is not making this stuff up,it is real.


sure. how come she only started whining about it when she needed some street cred to warrant sitting on Puff Daddy's, ODB's and Jay-Z's laps in her videos?


"She doesn't sing worth a damn anymore?" Have you heard the songs "Never Too Far Away" and "Twister" from the 'Glitter' soundtrack?


yes. i put these at the top of the list of evidence that she can no longer sing. she hasn't used her voice well at all since Daydream.


Mariah can still sing her ass off! Like I said,with stronger material she is a force to be reckoned with.



"Mariah" and "stronger material" are phrases that are kind of at odds, aren't they? at least since her "Emotions" album anyway.

it's all retreads. since Music Box. Dreamlover = Fantasy = Honey = Heartbreaker. Hero = Butterfly = Never Too Far = Thank God I Found You, etc.


I agree 100% Aaron.


Do you agree wit sarcasm???
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Reply #59 posted 06/17/02 7:05am

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Harlepolis said:


Do you agree wit sarcasm???



Sarcasm is a beautiful thing, though I applied none to my posts in this thread.

It's downright hatred, and as natural as can be smile
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