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NWF

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Why is Emo such a disliked genre?

What, because some guys wanna bare their souls for profit (or in some cases for art) you wanna knock them?

Believe it or not, there are some really good Emo bands:

Thursday would top the list
Cursive
Les Savvy Fav
Jimmy Eat World
Sparta
At The Drive In
Q & Not U
The Dismemberment Plan
The Natural History

These guys are worth listening to. But then there's the rest of the garbage like:

Taking Back Sunday
The Used
All-American Rejects
Dashboard Confessional
My Chemical Romance
.....OK, that's all I can think of now. But the point is, you can find some good emo bands just as much as bad ones. You'll be surprised to know that some of the chords and arrangements in the songs by good emo bands are very pretty. Besides, weren't many o these bands influenced by their Alternative forefathers (Cure, Smiths, Nick Cave, etc.)?

I don't see the need for all the bashing of a genre when there is a good deal of good bands from it.
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Reply #1 posted 10/02/05 1:48am

GangstaFam

nearly every genre gets a backlash at some point. maybe it's just emo's turn. shrug
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Reply #2 posted 10/02/05 4:17am

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It's not the music, it's the emos themselves. Every bad cliche about Goths being whiny, moody, depressive drama cases seems truer in emos. At least the ones I know. All the Goths are fairly chipper people who happen to like dead stuff. smile
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Reply #3 posted 10/02/05 6:33am

Anxiety

i LOVE emo.

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Reply #4 posted 10/02/05 6:35am

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Anxiety said:

i LOVE emo.




?!
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Reply #5 posted 10/02/05 7:50am

newwavepop

well to me this is the problem.
punk was amazing at first, well the good bands were, and then before 1980 even hit punk had fallen into all the rules stereotypes of what was punk and what wasnt thereby making it pretty unpunk.
so by the time the 80s rolled around punk had turned into a bunch of really bad soundalike hardcore bands.
somwhere in the mid/late 80s some of these bands started to tire of the cliche
of the constant screaming and rage.
they really be;lieved in and meant what they wanted to say so they started singing a little more and screaming a little less and were really trying to be sincere in how they felt about things.

now 10 or 15 years later, somehow emo has become a household word, and its another of the many mainstream terms used now for a style thet gets the credit for being underground even though everyone listens to it and its not actually underground at all.
when that happens everyone jumps on board and it loses all it originaly stood for.
so you have armies of bands that pop up playing this stuff and thinking that it has done a specific way.
so now you have clones of clones of tired boring weezer sounding bands out there being called emo.
and its not emo!

the term emo like the term alternative is very very misused these days.
and you see the kids that listen to it, the fashionable yet nerdy but in the perfect way look they sport.
and you know that in another era they would have just been jerky preppy kids.

music is never going to have another revolution(not the band:) if everything stays the way it is now.

to me the emo bands i hear are boring, the singers cant sing and they dont sound sincere to me they just sound like they are reading lyrics.
the music doesnt interest me in any way.
and the fashion non fashion is just ridiculous.
especially the insane sloppy comb overs all the way from the ear.

but clearly many people do like it.
and probably think its something new.
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Reply #6 posted 10/02/05 8:03am

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Cause they are little sissies.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #7 posted 10/02/05 8:32am

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newwavepop said:

well to me this is the problem.
punk was amazing at first, well the good bands were, and then before 1980 even hit punk had fallen into all the rules stereotypes of what was punk and what wasnt thereby making it pretty unpunk.
so by the time the 80s rolled around punk had turned into a bunch of really bad soundalike hardcore bands.
somwhere in the mid/late 80s some of these bands started to tire of the cliche
of the constant screaming and rage.
they really be;lieved in and meant what they wanted to say so they started singing a little more and screaming a little less and were really trying to be sincere in how they felt about things.

now 10 or 15 years later, somehow emo has become a household word, and its another of the many mainstream terms used now for a style thet gets the credit for being underground even though everyone listens to it and its not actually underground at all.
when that happens everyone jumps on board and it loses all it originaly stood for.
so you have armies of bands that pop up playing this stuff and thinking that it has done a specific way.
so now you have clones of clones of tired boring weezer sounding bands out there being called emo.
and its not emo!

the term emo like the term alternative is very very misused these days.
and you see the kids that listen to it, the fashionable yet nerdy but in the perfect way look they sport.
and you know that in another era they would have just been jerky preppy kids.

music is never going to have another revolution(not the band:) if everything stays the way it is now.

to me the emo bands i hear are boring, the singers cant sing and they dont sound sincere to me they just sound like they are reading lyrics.
the music doesnt interest me in any way.
and the fashion non fashion is just ridiculous.
especially the insane sloppy comb overs all the way from the ear.

but clearly many people do like it.
and probably think its something new.



THANK YOU!!! My thoughts exactly! I'd put one of those little clap smileys up but I'm too lazy, but this is a great post! Thanks!
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Reply #8 posted 10/02/05 11:34am

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I don't even know what Emo IS! lol
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Reply #9 posted 10/02/05 11:44am

GangstaFam

Anxiety said:

i LOVE emo.


lol
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Reply #10 posted 10/02/05 12:08pm

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It's just a terrible form of music, and most of it has mindless screaming in it. All my friends like it (most of them because everyone else does). And the fact that it is the scene at the moment makes it all the more annoying.
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Reply #11 posted 10/02/05 1:12pm

NWF

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FunkJam said:

It's just a terrible form of music, and most of it has mindless screaming in it. All my friends like it (most of them because everyone else does). And the fact that it is the scene at the moment makes it all the more annoying.



Yeah, but why? I mean you gotta have a real reason to dislike it. You can't just say you dislike it beacuse you think it's the thing to dislike. Like I said, there are actually some good emo bands that do more than just give senslessly their vocal chords a workout. Listen to the melodies. You'd be suprised to know how good they are.

I think it's unfair to dislike a genre cuz other people do.
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NWF

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newwavepop said:

well to me this is the problem.
punk was amazing at first, well the good bands were, and then before 1980 even hit punk had fallen into all the rules stereotypes of what was punk and what wasnt thereby making it pretty unpunk.
so by the time the 80s rolled around punk had turned into a bunch of really bad soundalike hardcore bands.
somwhere in the mid/late 80s some of these bands started to tire of the cliche
of the constant screaming and rage.
they really be;lieved in and meant what they wanted to say so they started singing a little more and screaming a little less and were really trying to be sincere in how they felt about things.

now 10 or 15 years later, somehow emo has become a household word, and its another of the many mainstream terms used now for a style thet gets the credit for being underground even though everyone listens to it and its not actually underground at all.
when that happens everyone jumps on board and it loses all it originaly stood for.
so you have armies of bands that pop up playing this stuff and thinking that it has done a specific way.
so now you have clones of clones of tired boring weezer sounding bands out there being called emo.
and its not emo!

the term emo like the term alternative is very very misused these days.
and you see the kids that listen to it, the fashionable yet nerdy but in the perfect way look they sport.
and you know that in another era they would have just been jerky preppy kids.

music is never going to have another revolution(not the band:) if everything stays the way it is now.

to me the emo bands i hear are boring, the singers cant sing and they dont sound sincere to me they just sound like they are reading lyrics.
the music doesnt interest me in any way.
and the fashion non fashion is just ridiculous.
especially the insane sloppy comb overs all the way from the ear.

but clearly many people do like it.
and probably think its something new.


But have you listened to any of those bands I mentioned above? I would consider those to be the cream of the crop. They do more than just scream and shit. They actually have something to say. It's the bad emo bands though that ruin it for everybody.
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NWF said:

FunkJam said:

It's just a terrible form of music, and most of it has mindless screaming in it. All my friends like it (most of them because everyone else does). And the fact that it is the scene at the moment makes it all the more annoying.



Yeah, but why? I mean you gotta have a real reason to dislike it. You can't just say you dislike it beacuse you think it's the thing to dislike. Like I said, there are actually some good emo bands that do more than just give senslessly their vocal chords a workout. Listen to the melodies. You'd be suprised to know how good they are.

I think it's unfair to dislike a genre cuz other people do.


I dislike it cause its rubbish to me. But anyway yes i do like some of the music in the songs, but alot of the them sound the same and unorigional.
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Reply #14 posted 10/02/05 1:45pm

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Emo Music is, with the exception of My Chemical Romance, a sad excuse for rock music. Basically a bunch of whiny pussies complaining. If you want to write a fucking song about a girlfriend whom treat you like shit, fine. But dont base that around your fucking image.
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newskin69 said:

Emo Music is, with the exception of My Chemical Romance, a sad excuse for rock music. Basically a bunch of whiny pussies complaining. If you want to write a fucking song about a girlfriend whom treat you like shit, fine. But dont base that around your fucking image.


Soul singers can express their feelings wih emotion and depth, and sometimes rage. But are you gonna call them a bunch of whiny little pussies. Just because emo is a branch of Punk/Hard Rock, doesn't mean an emo singer shouldn't bare their souls. But yes, there are some that do fake it and scream just to scream. But then there are some emo bands that are quite genuine. Like I said, it's the fact that Emo is represented by it's stereotype, which makes it a turnoff to many. But there is some good in Emo, I think.
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Reply #16 posted 10/02/05 7:01pm

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Emo= punk with love

It is always hard to dis a genre. Same with metal. If all metal was distortion and screaming about the devil and hating your dad, you wouldn't be able to set Metallica to strings.
Emo can be distortion and screaming about WHY your parents broke up and how you were heartbroken somewhere in Orange County, but every once in awhile you get something out of it that is good. Like that horrible rash of bad metal-rap. What the hell was that? It was like Limp Bizkit took something Ice-T did 5 years after the fact. Our local radio station has commercials where they publicly apologize for playing all that Limp Bizkit. Emo will find the way out and get back to being inventive. It needs more bands that lay between Weezer and the Smiths.
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Reply #17 posted 10/02/05 8:31pm

Tom

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Shoegazing kicks Emo's ass smile
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Tom

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newskin69 said:

Emo Music is, with the exception of My Chemical Romance, a sad excuse for rock music. Basically a bunch of whiny pussies complaining. If you want to write a fucking song about a girlfriend whom treat you like shit, fine. But dont base that around your fucking image.


The lead singer of My Chemical Romance looks like a teenage Billy Corgan. They suck tho.
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Reply #19 posted 10/02/05 8:56pm

legna

guys with emotions, like Air Supply
Ah, the guilty pleasures in life.
Enjoy ur elmo all u want just don't cry about later that u did.
Hall and Oates 4 life and i ain't gonna cry about it, I don't care what u say.
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Tom said:

newskin69 said:

Emo Music is, with the exception of My Chemical Romance, a sad excuse for rock music. Basically a bunch of whiny pussies complaining. If you want to write a fucking song about a girlfriend whom treat you like shit, fine. But dont base that around your fucking image.


The lead singer of My Chemical Romance looks like a teenage Billy Corgan. They suck tho.


I actally like my chemical romance. Just cause of gerard way (the lead singer). He's a very funny man razz and some of the music is actually ok.
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Reply #21 posted 10/03/05 5:46am

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It's a jungle out there.
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Why is Emo such a disliked genre? Because it sucks.

It's a jungle out there.
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Reply #23 posted 10/03/05 7:51am

Anxiety

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i really don't like emo because it's become so codified and bogged down with rules and norms. plus, lots of it just sounds like bad billy joel songs by guys who have tattoos and only get popular because they look like underwear models and can strum a guitar. and the whole 'scene' is like goth without the cool costumes and makeup.
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Reply #24 posted 10/03/05 8:04am

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and the whole 'scene' is like goth without the cool costumes and makeup.

or gloomy synths or chorus pedals or interesting band names.
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Reply #25 posted 10/03/05 8:28am

Anxiety

GangstaFam said:

Anxiety said:

and the whole 'scene' is like goth without the cool costumes and makeup.

or gloomy synths or chorus pedals or interesting band names.


or the sexual ambiguity or shameless melodrama.
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Reply #26 posted 10/03/05 3:13pm

GangstaFam

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or the sexual ambiguity or shameless melodrama.

that's the best part!
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Reply #27 posted 10/04/05 1:10am

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Anxiety said:

GangstaFam said:


or gloomy synths or chorus pedals or interesting band names.


or the sexual ambiguity or shameless melodrama.

mmmm.....prety pretty Goffy boys...or girls.....it's so hard to tell.

Oh what the hell, pretty be pretty. lol
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Reply #28 posted 11/01/05 4:42pm

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GangstaFam said:

Anxiety said:

or the sexual ambiguity or shameless melodrama.

that's the best part!


But if you think about it, Emo is a lot like Alternative/Goth. There's definitely a connection.
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maybe because most don't like people that sit around pissing and moaning about their problems whether they're in a rock band or not.
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