thesexofit said:

You really need to check out the long-form music home video releases by Blondie, Olivia Newton-John and several other major stars - before Jacko. Ok? Thanks.

VoicesCarry said:

Never seen homevideos of them. Thats the major thing here. Jacko made loads outta the homevideo of thriller. Janet saw this and did the same. Jacko was not the first to make these videos, but was the first to utilize that u could put this onto a homevideo, with a documentary which janet also included on hers.

thesexofit said:

Stop spouting stupid ish trying to defend your "point".

ONJ had an entire television special for her long-form video, which was then released on home video. So don't talk stupid bullshit about MJ inventing the marketing of the form - just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it didn't exist! Learn to expand your knowledge. And MJ wasn't the first to make a documentary, either.
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VoicesCarry said:

Jesus, voices, all i meant was she obviously looked at thriller and decided to go down that route aswell. I never said mike was the first for a doc either, but the way both mikes were on his homevideo and janets doc was on hers is pretty strange dont u think?

thesexofit said:

Oooh, yeah, sexofit, I also find it an eerie coincidence that many movies contain something known as "film footage". Totally creeps me out - it's as if there's some sort of intentional plagiarism goin' on theah.

VoicesCarry said:

Voices, ur going overboard. U know i cant argue with u. Its true u do know alot more then me about everything proberly.

But i gotta say that Janet never, even thought about thriller and its impact it had, when she did her 1814 thing is pretty hard to beleive.

Oh I'm not aware of it either

What was the first long form video then? Which was merged with a 'making of' and released to Vhs?

thesexofit said:

No, but that doesn't make it a rip-off. Maybe if she was doin' the Miss You Much dance in ghoul makeup, you'd have a point.

LightOfArt said:

First long-form VHS: Blondie - Eat To The Beat (1979) http://imdb.com/title/tt0255133/

They also released a Best Of Blondie compilation in the 1981 in the UK.

ONJ also released a long-form video in early 1982 to support the Physical LP.

And I didn't say that MJ wasn't the first to include a doco (I'm not sure about it, though). I said he was not the first to make a documentary. thesexofit was acting like media forms are copyrightable.

VoicesCarry said:

voices, i said the concept was the same, not the content.

It sucks, i looked for pics of the excerpt i did online. Seems janet fans really couldn't care less about the project.

thesexofit said:

Most Janet fans own this video. It has not been released on DVD. I think you really are out of the loop about it because it wasn't released between 1991 and 1993 It is a classic, like Thriller.

P.S. It stole a lot of its imagery from Aliens, including the shots of the elevator shaft.

VoicesCarry said:

Yep, i saw that. As i said, its very contrived and cliche


but as i explained, its pretty unusual as its so over the top witht the shooting of bj and all. Its so corny. I love it.

thesexofit said:

Well, I will let your criticism slide because you have genuine affection for the contrived & corny, and you aren't using it as a put-down.

...as opposed to Janet JackSON or Janet Jackoff.....or Janet Jacme.
Just messin' wit' cha.

lol Jacme

VoicesCarry said:

(can i post now )

Ok, i forgot what i wrote (sure it was crap) but if its cliche or not, it should not spoil a viewers enjoyment of said movie.

I really hate the media sometimes. Over-anaylsing films is so pointless. Luckily "1814" took little effort to construct an arguement about the sound being interesting. As i stated about, its quite unusual.


I gotta see the 14 min "2 legit to quit" video. Thatwas awesome too. Surprise surpise, that came with a big documentary.

BlaqueKnight said:

wow, i never noticed that. i cant be bothered to change it

Janet can jackon for all i care

for the record.....David Bowie was the second full length video to get released...

uhhh...anyone remember the tune?

sosgemini said:

"Ashes To Ashes"?

CinisterCee said:

not sure..i just remember it being a huge flop..people were like

sosgemini said:

Iam sure anxiety has it?

thesexofit said:

yeah, i'd say she's wide enough at this point for you to do an entire presentation from atop her.

Tessa said:

Jermaine wants her to be less apealing so he wont look so bad.