TheSmyrk said:

she really is. i loved her singles when they came out and i heard the album was pretty good. more to life and stuck on u were my songs for lik that whole year. yea shes wayyy better than joss (altho i looove joss)

TheSmyrk said:

Stacy's the bomb. I just wish she hadn't left CCM, but it worked for Amy Grant...

I was hoping and wihsing that after the football game thing she'd be gone forever. I was watching SNL and knew she was faking on the 1st number before she messed up later.

If there were any justice, Ashlee would BE BANNED FROM ALL FORMS OF public entertainment!!!!

That said, I dont' think it's a white/black thing. As said above, there are plenty talent-less no-singing "stars" of both races: (Ciara, Ashanti, Britney Spears, Brandy).

And personally, I AM SHOCKED that people thing Usher is talented. Yeah he can imitiate MJ's dance moves..... so what.... so did Corey Feldman!

GaryMF said:

Take it back!!! Take it back!!!!

Yeah, I think Brandy can sing. She ain't Chaka Khan in the Rufus days, but her albums have some decent cuts. Her brother Ray-J on the other hand...

Did the neuter the poor boy? I blame the Sinbad Show and Shaquille O'Neal for puttin him in the movie Steel. That kinda rhymes.

TheSmyrk said:

Well, I guess under the right circumstances, in the right studio, with the right song (i.e. one with a range of maybe 4 notes), Brandy can carry a tune.

But if you saw that Divas LIve thing she was on it was embarassing. The fact that they even consider her a "Diva" in the likes of a Whitney or Aretha is insanse.

Who considers Brandy a diva?! I thought you had to have drag queens pretendin to be you to qualify for that status (Diana, Cher, Tina, Beyonce-I'm sure by now)

TheSmyrk said:

Well that is my point. But they booked her on one of the 1st VH1 Divas LIve thing..... it was really stupid.

ThreadBare said:

that's a hot lesbo duo right there

GaryMF said:

All sorts of people get booked for Divas.

DAV123 said:

2 TIMES!!!

ThreadBare said:

I can't believe you muthas are comparing Mary J to fucking AssLug Simpson I ain't no huge Mary fan but DAMN, come on

god, i thought it was bad dealing with Donnie & Marie, then it was Debbie and Tiffany, now it's this shit...

I guess the reason she's getting so many second chances is because the team of people investing in her have deep pockets.

However, alot of the hype about Ashlee is fabricated. Right after her second appearance on SNL, there's articles popping up about her "comeback". When the hell did she leave? She's only on her second album, I mean come on. No respectable journalist in their right mind would write something like this.

Tom said:

kisscamille said:

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Well over the last couple of years we have had some good neo-soul singers who could not get play on pop station must less RnB stations and none of them were singing about bitches and whores.

This is American and race plays a role. I wish Jill Scott first CD had sold 10 milion instead of a million copies but that will never happen.

I don't understand the controversy. Maybe I'm oversimplifying, but why not just support artists you like with your money rather than worrying about who sucks? So many entertainers, black and white, make my arse want to crochet barbed wire as well, so I just don't spend my dollar supporting them. Other than than, I don't lose sleep over the fact that I think they suck rocks. There's always going to be that "what are kids these days listening to??" generation gap.

Rhondab said:

Rhonda....you are so brillant!!!

laurarichardson said:

Of course there are still major race issues in the US

But as stated above, there are plenty no-talent no-singing black "artists" who are topping the charts as well... so I dont' think that expalins this particular phenomenon

re: Jill Scott: I think the reason her albums didn't sell those kind of #s is cuz it's too "experimental" or "non-traiditonal" with all the spoken word stuff thrown in there. The average record buyer won't "get that"... kindof like why jazz never sells high #s.... it's above most people's head so to speak

meow85 said:

Oh no, my days must be numbered then because everytime I'm around one of my teens, they're changing the channel to BET or MTV and changing the car radio to something run by Radio One and Clear Channel.

I can't go to my ever after with that crap in my soul! Somebody please...make sure they bury my IPod with me!!
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the untalented rappers out there are FAR worse then anyof them girls. id prefer all that pop stuff then the pathetic hip hop thats out now

VinnyM27 said:

Sorry Vinny, but I'll take The Pussycat Dolls instead. At least Nicole CAN sing!

GaryMF said:

Lowblow!!!

Horsefeathers said:

but seriously, horsefeathers' got a point: theres always gonna be shitty artists or artists YOU consider shitty - complaining and whining about how much they suck accomplishes nothing - it doesnt get them off the hair and it doesnt make the label drop them, it might (like in the case of eminem) boost them up higher. in the end all u can really do is support who u like

SexyBeautifulOne said:

Will do.