I get the distinct feeling this is going to be a part of her act for the upcoming album. The whole "confessions" thing seems to be played up (I mean, c'mon, she has a hotline for calling your confessions in?). I get the feeling she is mocking her own deification by fans and the media. It just seems rather tongue-in-cheek to me. Time will tell.

Tessa said:

You didn't buy the single on Itunes yet....go to hell!

The going to hell thing must be a joke....of she's fucking high!

When I was watching the preview she seemed to be talking about the Bible. I don't think this was her own opinion. The "material" thing was her opinion though and she's been saying the same thing since the 80's. Nothing new.

SassyBritches said:

Erm i dont think she was seperating herself from the masses here. She's fully admitted to being caught up by materialism and its trappings for most of her life. Just because someone makes a realisation and talks about it doesn't necessarily mean they change their ways and mindset overnight.

I think she's referring more to the fact that material things do not bring happinness and fulfillment in life and that something more is needed. Accepting this does not mean you have to shun material things. Madonna's having a career just like the rest of us. Shes not the type of character to sit back on her fortune. In a way having the fortune makes her better placed to make such a comment.

Anxiety said:

I read in her spread with Vogue a few months back that her children have never seen t.v. I can imagine why! But those kids are going to grow into teenagers one day and they are in for a big surprise about their Mom. I would not want to be in her shoes when it comes time to start the explaining who she really is to a couple of teenagers.


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theVelvetRoper said:

I guess we'll have to watch the actual documentary tonight to form some informed opinions about the matter.

Tom said:

"sooner shall a camel pass through the eye of a needle than a rich person enter into Heaven"

ehuffnsd said:

Is the family vineyard in Hell, Michigan?

The docuementary was fabulous!

Having seen the docuementary, it's obvious that folks are blowing this way out of proportion. She was explaining the "Beast Within" video and that part about going to hell was tossed out there like a total joke. She was even laughing right after.

TMPletz said:

GangstaFam said:

That's good to hear! Was really hard to imagine her saying that seriously.

i was hoping to hear she was joking around. after prince, one never knows where his favorite superstars are headed!

SassyBritches said:

When you see the documentary, it'll make sense. I also found that her new beliefs and lifestyle are a lot easier to swallow and seem a lot less hypocritical in long form. You understand where she's coming from in the documentary much better than in short interviews and soundbites. I think you'll like it a lot.

SassyBritches said:

she's talking about The Beast Within, and talking about how she was juxtaposing (something? she doesn't say) with telling people they're going to hell for their wicked ways (in the Beast Within). she's not wagging her finger at anyone or even saying it herself. she's talking about a bible verse.

GangstaFam said:

i think kaballah is very interesting and not so "crazy." i've read several books and, as a philosophy, it has a lot to offer. madonna doesn't do too good of a job as its spokesperson, though.

Im not surprised that she has said this...I mean, it's all the rage for celeb's to be rant religious. To each their own.

CherrieMoonKisses said:

She didn't say it like the quote implies.

GangstaFam said:

i hate to admit it, but i was really impressed with it myself.

well, i really don't hate admitting it, but i never thought i'd enjoy something by madonna again, and i'll be damned if i didn't have a good time. it could have been edited down a LOT, but the indulgences really didn't bother me that much.

i think i'm still in the "how can a mega-celebrity preach humility and non-materialism" camp, but i do think she kicked around some interesting and genuinely provocative thoughts on spirituality in the documentary. good for her.

Anxiety said:

I'm glad you liked it! You might even like the new album.

ok, I finally watched it, and I'm going to tell you a secret:

Madonna is Miss Jean Brodie.

Seriously, it was sort of hard to tell what the "going to hell" comment was about. She did say something about "juxtaposing", but who knows. There was also a part where she talked about "fornication" as being something bad. But I also liked a lot of it, especially the performance clips--that rockin' version of American Life actually put the song over for me. I mean, I still think she's pretty much a hypocrite and a gasbag, but she's also still a phenomenal artist (hmm...what other artist does that remind me of?) and at the end of the day, that's all that matters to me.

MendesCity said:

well, the part of the documentary that i'm still chewing on is the suggestion that metaphor is part of the "magic" of her spirituality/belief system. so, when she says "fornication", she may not mean the literal definition but rather a meaning that fits her thoughts. or not.

the "everyone's going to hell" comment was blown WAY out of proportion, by the way. she just said it off-handedly during a discussion with her musical director/producer which was actually kind of charmingly casual. to believe all the stories about this comment, you'd think she was addressing the masses on the steps of the vatican or something.

The juxtaposition is in the book of revelation itself.
After the people r condemned, & told they're going
2 hell..it all turns around 'cuz God will come
down .'wipe every tear from their eye..no crying,
no pain anymore..'etc.. . her character in the
x-static process exhibition reads from the book.

Some of u people sure r idiots.

Martinelli said:

TOTALLY idiots! what neanderthal doesn't know all there is to know about the x-static process exhibition?!?

Anxiety said:

I don't really mean it like that..

it's X-static Pro=cess get it right people!

ehuffnsd said:

wrong font.

Anxiety said:

And Anx is on a Madonna thread!