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PrintableSexyBeautifulOne said: jjhunsecker said: The day I need to look to somebody like Tupac for guidance or political insight, that's the same day I'll take a 20 Gauge shotgun and blow my head off. It doesn't frighten me in the least to see and say what he was about . But I grew up out of my notions of romanticizing anybody And for those of you who believe that Tupac, or anybody for that matter, is going to lead a "revolution" here in the USA, I can only say one thing " Wake Up ! The Sixties are over, man !"  You know...you're reminding me of some of those people that wouldn't/couldn't believe that a hurricane could wipe out New Orleans or that international terrorists could strike on US soil. From what I can tell, I'm not the one whose alarm clock is busted.
[Edited 10/20/05 14:22pm] Actually, I had believed in both of those events as possibilities for years, but that's neither here nor there. I'm waiting for somebody to come on here and give me an example of something that Tupac did or said that was so ground-breaking, revolutionary, or inspirational. Something that would help me. Something besides some warmed over rhetoric left from a 1967 Black Panther rally. #SOCIETYDEFINESU | |
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jjhunsecker said: SexyBeautifulOne said: You know...you're reminding me of some of those people that wouldn't/couldn't believe that a hurricane could wipe out New Orleans or that international terrorists could strike on US soil. From what I can tell, I'm not the one whose alarm clock is busted.
[Edited 10/20/05 14:22pm] Actually, I had believed in both of those events as possibilities for years, but that's neither here nor there. I'm waiting for somebody to come on here and give me an example of something that Tupac did or said that was so ground-breaking, revolutionary, or inspirational. Something that would help me. Something besides some warmed over rhetoric left from a 1967 Black Panther rally. Don't know why I'm even bothering but here's a few for you. Tupac had set up a company called Euphanasia to develop movie projects and help finance such community-minded projects as a center for at-risk youth, inner-city sports teams, and a toll-free number through which troubled kids could reach him. He had Yaasmyn Fula come to L.A. to run it with Molly Monjouze. Yaasmyn tried to organize Tupac's business affairs, and Molly did his financing for an at risk youth center, the bankrolling of year round South Central sports teams, and the setting up of an 800 number that would allow kids to call him when they had a problem. He also had another company called 24/7, for his music and video work, the scripts he was writing. He also planned on doing free concerts for schools and the only way you could get in was to have at least a C average. He also wanted to start a little youth league in California, a Pop Warner League, except the rappers fund it and kids need at least a C average to play. He was also working on funding a chain of day care centers. The Euphanasia logo consisted of a black angel of death kneeling down on his knees with wings and an angel-like halo. Joshua's Dream In 1993, Tupac received a letter from the parents of a dying boy who said their son, Joshua's, last wish was to meet Tupac. Tupac flew to Maryland to meet Joshua and after his death Tupac renamed his publishing company from Ghetto Gospel Music to Joshua's Dream. Snoop Dogg's Marriage Right before Snoop Doggy Dogg's marriage, he was having doubts about marrying his wife to be since he could basically get any woman he wanted. It was Snoop, Pac, Suge and a few other guys and Snoop told them of his doubts and they told Snoop not to get married and that she was just a bitch like all the other ones. Pac came in and told Snoop the importance of what he had between him and his wife, that she wasn't just another hoe, and that he shouldn't listen to those other guys who were just low thugs that didn't have or want shit. Snoop took Pac's advice to heart, and was very glad he married his wife. | |
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paul0478 said: AsylumUtopia said: Decomposing.
Well we know that already Einstien. Actually he was cremated. The question is. "What would he be doing if he was still alive?"  You might want to check your own thread title there, Mr. Brains, you make no mention of 'if he was still alive' at all. The question is merely what would Tupac be doing now. And I know he was cremated. My answer remains. Even ashes decompose. Lemmy, Bowie, Prince, Leonard. RIP. |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: jjhunsecker said: Actually, I had believed in both of those events as possibilities for years, but that's neither here nor there. I'm waiting for somebody to come on here and give me an example of something that Tupac did or said that was so ground-breaking, revolutionary, or inspirational. Something that would help me. Something besides some warmed over rhetoric left from a 1967 Black Panther rally. Don't know why I'm even bothering but here's a few for you. Tupac had set up a company called Euphanasia to develop movie projects and help finance such community-minded projects as a center for at-risk youth, inner-city sports teams, and a toll-free number through which troubled kids could reach him. He had Yaasmyn Fula come to L.A. to run it with Molly Monjouze. Yaasmyn tried to organize Tupac's business affairs, and Molly did his financing for an at risk youth center, the bankrolling of year round South Central sports teams, and the setting up of an 800 number that would allow kids to call him when they had a problem. He also had another company called 24/7, for his music and video work, the scripts he was writing. He also planned on doing free concerts for schools and the only way you could get in was to have at least a C average. He also wanted to start a little youth league in California, a Pop Warner League, except the rappers fund it and kids need at least a C average to play. He was also working on funding a chain of day care centers. The Euphanasia logo consisted of a black angel of death kneeling down on his knees with wings and an angel-like halo. Joshua's Dream In 1993, Tupac received a letter from the parents of a dying boy who said their son, Joshua's, last wish was to meet Tupac. Tupac flew to Maryland to meet Joshua and after his death Tupac renamed his publishing company from Ghetto Gospel Music to Joshua's Dream. Snoop Dogg's Marriage Right before Snoop Doggy Dogg's marriage, he was having doubts about marrying his wife to be since he could basically get any woman he wanted. It was Snoop, Pac, Suge and a few other guys and Snoop told them of his doubts and they told Snoop not to get married and that she was just a bitch like all the other ones. Pac came in and told Snoop the importance of what he had between him and his wife, that she wasn't just another hoe, and that he shouldn't listen to those other guys who were just low thugs that didn't have or want shit. Snoop took Pac's advice to heart, and was very glad he married his wife. Hey, I try to be fair ... If he did all those things, than that was good for him and good for the community. I want to see someone's life in totality. Good AND Bad. With Tupac, it seems some people only want to see the bad, and conversely, others downplay the fucked up shit that he did, and see him as some sort of Messiah or martyr. They try to elevate him as some sort of rap version of Che Guevera. I mean, let's hear about the things you mention, AND not forget the rape issue, or the beating of the limo driver, or any of that shit [Edited 10/21/05 8:28am] #SOCIETYDEFINESU | |
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jjhunsecker said: Hey, I try to be fair ... If he did all those things, than that was good for him and good for the community. I want to see someone's life in totality. Good AND Bad. With Tupac, it seems some people only want to see the bad, and conversely, others downplay the fucked up shit that he did, and see him as some sort of Messiah or martyr. They try to elevate him as some sort of rap version of Che Guevera. I mean, let's hear about the things you mention, AND not forget the rape issue, or the beating of the limo driver, or any of that shit [Edited 10/21/05 8:28am] Now you're just backpeddling, but hey...whatever floats your boat! I choose to focus on his positive and not dwell on his negative, that doesn't mean I've forgotten anything. I know the negative is there, believe me, mainstream media and TIIC made damn sure of that. Where I take offense is when it comes to people who choose to focus on his negative and refuse to even acknowledge ANYTHING even remotely positive about him. That pisses me off real quick because I do KNOW better! And feel that...Yes! As my brothers keeper it is my responsibility to speak on his behalf! | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: jjhunsecker said: Hey, I try to be fair ... If he did all those things, than that was good for him and good for the community. I want to see someone's life in totality. Good AND Bad. With Tupac, it seems some people only want to see the bad, and conversely, others downplay the fucked up shit that he did, and see him as some sort of Messiah or martyr. They try to elevate him as some sort of rap version of Che Guevera. I mean, let's hear about the things you mention, AND not forget the rape issue, or the beating of the limo driver, or any of that shit [Edited 10/21/05 8:28am] Now you're just backpeddling, but hey...whatever floats your boat! I choose to focus on his positive and not dwell on his negative, that doesn't mean I've forgotten anything. I know the negative is there, believe me, mainstream media and TIIC made damn sure of that. Where I take offense is when it comes to people who choose to focus on his negative and refuse to even acknowledge ANYTHING even remotely positive about him. That pisses me off real quick because I do KNOW better! And feel that...Yes! As my brothers keeper it is my responsibility to speak on his behalf! I wascn't backpedaling, I was trying to provise some balance. If you look at some posts here, you'd think Tupac was the Second Coming #SOCIETYDEFINESU | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: Where I take offense is when it comes to people who choose to focus on his negative and refuse to even acknowledge ANYTHING even remotely positive about him. That pisses me off real quick because I do KNOW better! And feel that...Yes! As my brothers keeper it is my responsibility to speak on his behalf! Hey, if you felt slighted, I apologize. | |
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AsylumUtopia said: paul0478 said: Well we know that already Einstien. Actually he was cremated. The question is. "What would he be doing if he was still alive?" You might want to check your own thread title there, Mr. Brains, you make no mention of 'if he was still alive' at all. The question is merely what would Tupac be doing now. And I know he was cremated. My answer remains. Even ashes decompose. You knew what I meant. Paul G II
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