namepeace said: andyman91 said: He always sounds good to me. Sea Change is great because of that vibe. The great thing about artists like Prince or Beck is the variety of their stuff, but it can be a problem, as well. Prince doesn't make good background music, because the style/emotion changes from song to song and it can be jarring. Sea Change has the same vibe throughout the album so it's good for listening, but also as background music. It's got to be very hard to write 12-13 slow, sad songs and make it work as one album. You got it, andyman. But Beck is plagued with the same problem that plagued Prince until very, very recently. People mistook the novelty and fun in the image he projected for being the hallmarks of a frivolous musician instead of a serious artist. He is a substantive artist who struggles with his own success. i wonder if he struggles with his own success as much as he struggles with his own identity as an artist. i mean, i don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing, but from listening to his lyrics and reading his interviews, i have no freakin' clue who beck is. i know some basic biographical stuff, but i have no insights to his personality or character whatsoever. and maybe he likes it that way, but even andy warhol let you see through the curtain every now and again. | |
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namepeace said: andyman91 said: He always sounds good to me. Sea Change is great because of that vibe. The great thing about artists like Prince or Beck is the variety of their stuff, but it can be a problem, as well. Prince doesn't make good background music, because the style/emotion changes from song to song and it can be jarring. Sea Change has the same vibe throughout the album so it's good for listening, but also as background music. It's got to be very hard to write 12-13 slow, sad songs and make it work as one album. You got it, andyman. But Beck is plagued with the same problem that plagued Prince until very, very recently. People mistook the novelty and fun in the image he projected for being the hallmarks of a frivolous musician instead of a serious artist. He is a substantive artist who struggles with his own success. Yeah, Sea Change is unique for that reason. He was obviously aware of how he was perceived (unlike Prince?) He's a bit like Zappa, who could be dismissed by ignorant listeners because of his humourous/cartoonish tendencies (kind of like my dad dismissing the Simpsons because it's a cartoon). Also, Zappa's main failing was that he never sang with emotion. [Edited 10/18/05 16:51pm] Check this song out at:
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andyman91 said: Also, Zappa's main failing was that he never sang with emotion. yeah, but his lyrics could cut through concrete sometimes, and his guitar work had all kinds of emotion. | |
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Anxiety said: andyman91 said: Also, Zappa's main failing was that he never sang with emotion. yeah, but his lyrics could cut through concrete sometimes, and his guitar work had all kinds of emotion. That's why I allow all artists at least one flaw! Check this song out at:
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Anxiety said: namepeace said: You got it, andyman. But Beck is plagued with the same problem that plagued Prince until very, very recently. People mistook the novelty and fun in the image he projected for being the hallmarks of a frivolous musician instead of a serious artist. He is a substantive artist who struggles with his own success. i wonder if he struggles with his own success as much as he struggles with his own identity as an artist. i mean, i don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing, but from listening to his lyrics and reading his interviews, i have no freakin' clue who beck is. i know some basic biographical stuff, but i have no insights to his personality or character whatsoever. and maybe he likes it that way, but even andy warhol let you see through the curtain every now and again. I don't care who he is...I just want him naked with a guitar on my bed singing Jackass when I get home Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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It really depends on the group and how much I like the different eras of their material. I would love to go to an Aerosmith show and hear absolutely nothing they have done after 1982. Play all that good 70's shit and non of that MTV late 80's early 90's garbage.
some groups you want to hear the hits, some that your die hard into you wanna hear the more obscure stuff. The sad thing is most groups pretty much have to play the "hits" unless they haven't spent up all their money and are just doing it for themselves | |
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Anxiety said: you'll end up standing on a beach with a gun in your hand, staring at the sky, staring at the sand. and that's no good. is it?
Yes. It's very, very good. | |
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GangstaFam said: Anxiety said: you'll end up standing on a beach with a gun in your hand, staring at the sky, staring at the sand. and that's no good. is it?
Yes. It's very, very good. you're craaa-zy! | |
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Beck, as an artist, really creates two very different types of albums. He has his "fun" albums like Odelay and Midnight Vultures, and his more introspective discs like Mutations and Sea Change. I can enjoy both, but I certainly enjoy the latter more. Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9) | |
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