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Reply #180 posted 10/24/05 4:22pm

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whats up with madge being on oprah?



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Reply #181 posted 10/24/05 5:59pm

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First things first. If Madonna released her "American Life" single and video today, instead of two years ago, it would have been huge.
She was so forward-thinking with her anti-war sentiments and her complaints against excess that the American mainstream is only catching up to her now. Of course, now that most of the country is on the same page that she was, Madonna has jumped to a whole new book entirely.

"Hung Up," the first single from her forthcoming "Confessions on a Dance Floor" album, is pure escapism, a throwback to the late '70s, a time when Americans turned to disco and debauchery to forget about inflation caused by high gas prices and failed foreign policy.

It's catchy, riding a sample from ABBA's "Gimme Gimme Gimme" for nearly the entire song, and it floats by effortlessly, with barely a thought in its airhead, as the chugga-chugga beat pounds on.

The song's success is essentially a sure thing, but the real question will be how many similar-sounding dance acts will Madonna - and her collaborator, , known for his work as nu-disco king Jacques Le Cont - take with her up the charts.

Juliet is a good bet, since Price produced her debut "Random Order" (Virgin). "Random Order" is packed with intricate, dance tracks like "Avalon" and "Ride the Pain," which are more memorable for their beats than her vocals. Cut Copy is another good possibility, since the Aussie trio isn't ashamed to show off its love for the dance stylings of Le Cont and his pals Daft Punk on its debut "Bright Like Neon Love" (Ada).

And maybe with Madonna's help, [b]nu-disco pioneers Daft Punk and Basement Jaxx
will finally get the American audience they deserve.

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I think they already do...or have had their chance. From what I hear BJ is doing just fine. DP on the other hand need to do a proper album worthy of an audiece. That last album was complete shit. It actually made the one previous seem like a masterpiece.

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Reply #182 posted 10/24/05 6:05pm

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Tessa said:

jayaredee said:

First things first. If Madonna released her "American Life" single and video today, instead of two years ago, it would have been huge.
She was so forward-thinking with her anti-war sentiments and her complaints against excess that the American mainstream is only catching up to her now. Of course, now that most of the country is on the same page that she was, Madonna has jumped to a whole new book entirely.



i'm glad she pulled the video, though. it would be unseemly for a pop star to be profiting off of that sort of thing. it would be different if the song was actually a protest song. but it's not. it's about being a pop star. would have been very tacky for her to be capitalizing on something actually important with something so frivolous.


I don't think it would have been huge now. It would seem very passe and confusing. I actually like the song...and thought it was a strong contender for her repritoire.

Although I think the opposite of the video, the point you make that the song and a war protest video didn't sync up is spot on. HOWEVER, I think she cowed to the pressure to pull the video. She didn't want folks to burn her stuff and everyone was looking for the next anti-war scape goat and I don't think Madonna wanted to be that person. I certainly don't think America did either.

All that said...I still think she should have released the video and took on the damage. It would have been HUGE HUGE HUGE. People burning Madonna music and protesting her...would have or could have had the potential to change things. Of course IMHO.

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Reply #183 posted 10/24/05 6:09pm

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CrozzaUK said:

hellomoto said:

i know you didnt write this, but i defiently disagree. american life might of been a bigger hit then it was, but it definetly wouldnt of been huge, mainly because its just simply a bad song. i think fans try and make up excuses for this song, and actually for the whole album, blaming it on the war thing and whatnot, and although that might have had a little to do with it, i think the main reason is people just didnt like the actual song/album


I agree AL wouldnt have been a bigger hit. Its probably one of the worst singles of her career, although i dont think its a bad song, just badly produced. I dont think its a case of madonna fans making excuses for the album though. The album is what it is, opinion on it is subjective, just like any other record thats released. As a fan I like it, but i also feel it got exactly the kind of commercial success it deserved, because its not a commercial album, and some people feel madonna simply HAS to make commercial records.

I personally feel its a nice variation to what is already in the madonna cannon, and i would also say that there are some excellent songs on there. To call it a political album is wrong. Its a deeply personal album, and rarely has any optimism in it, merely reflection. I wouldnt say the war affected it badly, not having any really good singles to prommote was what killed the album, and im sure madonna accepts that. I think Erotica suffered for the same reasons, although in its case, it was a far better album that really was unfairly ignored because of the controversy.


clapping That is probably the best description of AL I have read.

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Reply #184 posted 10/24/05 7:48pm

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CrozzaUK said:



I agree AL wouldnt have been a bigger hit. Its probably one of the worst singles of her career, although i dont think its a bad song, just badly produced. I dont think its a case of madonna fans making excuses for the album though. The album is what it is, opinion on it is subjective, just like any other record thats released. As a fan I like it, but i also feel it got exactly the kind of commercial success it deserved, because its not a commercial album, and some people feel madonna simply HAS to make commercial records.

I personally feel its a nice variation to what is already in the madonna cannon, and i would also say that there are some excellent songs on there. To call it a political album is wrong. Its a deeply personal album, and rarely has any optimism in it, merely reflection. I wouldnt say the war affected it badly, not having any really good singles to prommote was what killed the album, and im sure madonna accepts that. I think Erotica suffered for the same reasons, although in its case, it was a far better album that really was unfairly ignored because of the controversy.


clapping That is probably the best description of AL I have read.


American Life is a good album. Misunderstood, but good. I think it bombed because the public wasnt expecting the direction she took, which was the whole folk/electronica thing. It was basically her personal album, and seldom to none people connected with it. There were some really good songs on it like "Nothing Fails" and "Love Profusion".
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Reply #185 posted 10/25/05 9:43am

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By Charlie Amter
Mon Oct 24, 9:51 PM ET



If it's good enough for U2, it's good enough for Madonna.

ADVERTISEMENT

A year after U2's precedent-setting deal to preview tracks from How to Dismantle an Atomic Band during sweeps, the Material Girl will introduce a track from her forthcoming Confessions on a Dancefloor on television's top franchise, CSI.


Remixed versions of the album's first single, "Hung Up," will get double exposure next week, featured on crossover episodes of CSI: Miami (Nov. 7) and CSI: NY (Nov. 9), the network says.


The episode involves a crashed plane and escaped serial killer and includes members of both casts, led by the respective stars, David Caruso and Gary Sinise. The tune will be heard once in each episode at the start of both CSI: Miami and CSI: NY.


Madonna has been hitting the hype circuit in advance of Dancefloor, which is due in stores Nov. 15, and Viacom seems to have her all locked up.


Aside from the CSI connection on the Viacom-owned CBS, she appeared on the Eye's The Late Show with David Letterman last week to stump for Confessions, mounting a horse outside Ed Sullivan Theater in New York for the first time since her equestrian accident on her 47th birthday Aug. 16.


She also wants her MTV--and vice versa--inking a landmark deal with MTV Networks for a slew of Confessions exclusives.


"We've pulled out all the stops for Madonna's new release, offering fans exclusive content on handsets, the Internet, on broadband as well as multiple TV shows," Van Toffler, president of MTV Networks Music/Logo Group, said earlier this month.


And in return, Madge has pulled out all the stops for MTV, including a recent drop-in surprise appearance at New York's Hunter College to show a film class her new documentary, I'm Going to Tell You a Secret, as part of MTVu's lecture series.


Madonna already stopped by the cable network's Total Request Live last Monday, where she debuted "Hung Up." The danceable track is already exclusively available as a ringtone via MTV.com and VH1.com.


Madonna will also perform the song live in Lisbon at next month's MTV Europe Music Awards. MTV has also premiered I'm Going to Tell You a Secret, which follows the singer's re-Invention Tour. The doc will subsequently air on VH1 and Logo.


Finally, beginning Nov. 8, fans will be able to exclusively preview the full 12-track album on MTV.com, VH1.com and LOGOonline.com for a week before its release.


Confessions reportedly marks a return to form for the new mother after the disappointing sales of 2003's American Life, with a house music-inspired club vibe reminiscent of her 2000 smash, Music.


In typical form, the entertainer has already stirred-up a bit of prerelease controversy thanks to one Kabbalah-inspired track. She invoked the ire of some Israeli rabbis for supposedly defiling the legacy of Yitzhak Luria, a 16th century Jewish mystic, by titling one cut "Isaac," the English translation of his Hebrew name.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/e...v_eo/17640
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Reply #186 posted 10/25/05 10:13am

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Tessa said:




i'm glad she pulled the video, though. it would be unseemly for a pop star to be profiting off of that sort of thing. it would be different if the song was actually a protest song. but it's not. it's about being a pop star. would have been very tacky for her to be capitalizing on something actually important with something so frivolous.


I don't think it would have been huge now. It would seem very passe and confusing. I actually like the song...and thought it was a strong contender for her repritoire.

Although I think the opposite of the video, the point you make that the song and a war protest video didn't sync up is spot on. HOWEVER, I think she cowed to the pressure to pull the video. She didn't want folks to burn her stuff and everyone was looking for the next anti-war scape goat and I don't think Madonna wanted to be that person. I certainly don't think America did either.

All that said...I still think she should have released the video and took on the damage. It would have been HUGE HUGE HUGE. People burning Madonna music and protesting her...would have or could have had the potential to change things. Of course IMHO.



all that adds up to is political statement about something extremely important as a PR stunt. and that would be very tacky.
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Reply #187 posted 10/25/05 1:43pm

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Reply #188 posted 10/25/05 2:36pm

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biggrin YAY!!! Just saw the above pic on a Madonna site, that's great!
These pics really reflect the mood of the album-
as it has the same feel as a confessions box...tiny slithers of light coming in through the side parting.
But it's actually a dancefloor where the confessions are being exposed- yeah I'm getting it now!?!
"There is no such thing in life as normal..."
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Reply #189 posted 10/25/05 2:46pm

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This photoshoot is turning out really well. I can't wait to get the special edition of the album with over 40 pages. smile
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Reply #190 posted 10/25/05 2:52pm

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The pictures are awesome! Thanks, Jayadree! I especially like this one....



Madonna (right) ponders the possiblities of sex with a nerdy virgin (left).
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Reply #191 posted 10/25/05 2:57pm

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CrozzaUK said:

hellomoto said:

i know you didnt write this, but i defiently disagree. american life might of been a bigger hit then it was, but it definetly wouldnt of been huge, mainly because its just simply a bad song. i think fans try and make up excuses for this song, and actually for the whole album, blaming it on the war thing and whatnot, and although that might have had a little to do with it, i think the main reason is people just didnt like the actual song/album


I agree AL wouldnt have been a bigger hit. Its probably one of the worst singles of her career, although i dont think its a bad song, just badly produced. I dont think its a case of madonna fans making excuses for the album though. The album is what it is, opinion on it is subjective, just like any other record thats released. As a fan I like it, but i also feel it got exactly the kind of commercial success it deserved, because its not a commercial album, and some people feel madonna simply HAS to make commercial records.

I personally feel its a nice variation to what is already in the madonna cannon, and i would also say that there are some excellent songs on there. To call it a political album is wrong. Its a deeply personal album, and rarely has any optimism in it, merely reflection. I wouldnt say the war affected it badly, not having any really good singles to prommote was what killed the album, and im sure madonna accepts that. I think Erotica suffered for the same reasons, although in its case, it was a far better album that really was unfairly ignored because of the controversy.



I don't know. I honestly think that the anti-war movement would have lapped up "American LIfe" if it came out today and it wouldn't be so dangerous to play on radio and TV (although the song in itself is not...it's really not about much...but I enjoy the beat). I always liked "American LIfe" as a single and the rough verison of the video I saw was great. It's dissapointing that many people didn't hear the song or see the video.
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Reply #192 posted 10/25/05 3:00pm

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ehuffnsd said:

Mainstream Top 40
*** No. 1 *** #1 Gold Digger Kanye West Featuring Jamie Foxx (Roc-A-Fella/Def Jam/IDJMG)
Debut #28 Luxurious Gwen Stefani (Interscope)
Debut/Greatest Gainer/Most Airplay Adds #33 Hung Up Madonna (Warner Bros.)
Debut #35 Soul Survivor Young Jeezy Featuring Akon (Corporate Thugz/Def Jam/IDJMG)
Debut #39 If It's Lovin' That You Want Rihanna (SRP/Def Jam/IDJMG)

Adult Top 40
*** No. 1 *** #1 Photograph Nickelback (Roadrunner/IDJMG)
Debut/Greatest Gainer/Most Airplay Adds #30 Hung Up Madonna (Warner Bros.)
Debut #39 Blind Lifehouse (Geffen)


Adult Contemporary
*** No. 1 *** #1 Lonely No More Rob Thomas (Melisma/Atlantic)
Greatest Gainer #7 Listen To Your Heart D.H.T. (Robbins)
Airpower #19 I'm Feeling You Santana Featuring Michelle Branch & The Wreckers (Arista/RMG)
Most Airplay Adds #31 Dreamland Bruce Hornsby Featuring Elton John (Columbia)
Debut #37 Wake Me Up When September Ends Green Day (Reprise)


Dance
*** No. 1 *** #1 And She Said... Lucas Prata (Ultra)
Greatest Gainer #2 Hung Up Madonna (Maverick/Warner Bros.)
Re-entry #20 Forgive Reina (Robbins)
Re-entry #24 Sunshine Georgie Porgie (Live/Music Plant)
Debut #25 When The Broken Hearted Love Again Danielle Bollinger (Esntion Silver/Esntion)
special thanks to Colin



Is this Billboard? Thanks for the numbers. I'd be shocked if this doesn't hit number one on the dance charts... Number 33 is already better than AL, right? I hope it at least gets into the twenties. I'm honestly not sure. I don't think WB is doing such a hot job promoting the song. Madonna really has to perform it and here in America!
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Reply #193 posted 10/25/05 3:03pm

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Back to the topic of Maxi singles, Best Buy not only doesn't sell singles (anymore), I went there today and they confirmed they will not be selling "Hung Up". I think selling the maxi single the way week as the album is just plain dumb, but what do I know. I only predicted that this album would probably sell less than AL (in America) if WB blew it and they are doing a pretty fucking good job!
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Reply #194 posted 10/25/05 3:17pm

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The American charts seem more dependant on airplay then anything. And it seems that radio just doesn't want to support the song as well as they could.
I don't think Warner can do much about it, and i doubt they offered any payola either.
Z100 is apparantly barely playing it. It's just the musical climate in the US. The track is doing pretty darn good worldwide though.

It debuted on the UK airplay charts at #4.
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Reply #195 posted 10/25/05 3:46pm

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jayaredee said:

The American charts seem more dependant on airplay then anything. And it seems that radio just doesn't want to support the song as well as they could.
I don't think Warner can do much about it, and i doubt they offered any payola either.
Z100 is apparantly barely playing it. It's just the musical climate in the US. The track is doing pretty darn good worldwide though.

It debuted on the UK airplay charts at #4.


ANd "American Life" did pretty darn well as a single outside of America!
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Reply #196 posted 10/26/05 12:09am

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VinnyM27 said:

The pictures are awesome! Thanks, Jayadree! I especially like this one....



Madonna (right) ponders the possiblities of sex with a nerdy virgin (left).



lol....that "nerdy virgin" is the album's producer,Stuart Price lol
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Reply #197 posted 10/26/05 9:43am

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i did have the back cover for the cd but it's not coming up
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Reply #198 posted 10/26/05 10:15am

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ehuffnsd said:


i did have the back cover for the cd but it's not coming up
[Edited 10/26/05 9:46am]


Here you go, just saw this on a Madonna site, it's really strange-
more like MURDERS ON A DANCE FLOOR!!!

"There is no such thing in life as normal..."
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Reply #199 posted 10/26/05 10:21am

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stevenpottle said:

ehuffnsd said:


i did have the back cover for the cd but it's not coming up
[Edited 10/26/05 9:46am]


Here you go, just saw this on a Madonna site, it's really strange-
more like MURDERS ON A DANCE FLOOR!!!




thank you you are my hero.

maybe it's a joke about her fall
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Reply #200 posted 10/26/05 10:58am

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MADONNA has promised Australia will be part of her next world tour.

Madonna’s last two tours bypassed Australia.
Her last visit was 12 years ago on the Girlie tour in 1993.

"I had a really great time last time I was in Australia, but I know it was a long time ago," Madonna, 47, said yesterday.

"It’s just Australia is so far away and the last two tours I had to cram everything into my children’s summer vacations.

"But I really don’t want to pass Australia by next time."

Madonna, who has sold four million records in Australia and 200 million worldwide, is planning a world tour for 2006, once again around schooling for daughter Lourdes, 9, and son Rocco, 4.

The tour will be "about discotheques and disco balls," she said, and comes after her return to dance albums with Confessions on a Dance Floor, recorded without gaps between tracks to simulate a DJ set.

The album will be released on November 14.

Tour dates are reportedly already locked in for Japan.

"If I go to Japan I’ll go to Australia, I promise!" Madonna said.

Confessions on a Dance Floor follows 2003’s American Life, the lowest-selling album of her 23-year career.

The record caused controversy at the time for its anti-Bush stance -- Madonna even pulled the anti-war American Life video.

"It’s all about timing," she said. "My timing was a bit off but I stand by the message."

Confessions’ first single, Hung Up, samples Abba’s 1979 disco anthem Gimme Gimme Gimme (A Man After Midnight).

"I love Abba," Madonna said.

Source: Herald Sun.
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Reply #201 posted 10/26/05 12:39pm

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Madonna (right) ponders the possiblities of sex with a nerdy virgin (left).


falloff Vinny!
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Reply #202 posted 10/26/05 12:47pm

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Madonna will open the EMA's in Lisbon inside a giant disco ball.

And word is that she's confirmed to perform at the 2006 Grammys.
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Reply #203 posted 10/26/05 12:57pm

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so is the video out yet? and what network does EMA air on, if it airs at all?
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Reply #204 posted 10/26/05 1:00pm

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so is the video out yet? and what network does EMA air on, if it airs at all?




video on VH1 tomorrow. no idea if the EMA's will air in America
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Reply #205 posted 10/26/05 1:00pm

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What kinda music is pushing your buttons right now? What artists are you listening to?

Madonna: Well, I'm really into Goldfrapp's new record... Depeche Mode. Those are the two records I'm listening to the most, like when I'm working out and stuff. But then I listen to a lot of soundtracks to movies as well.

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Tessa said:

SassyBritches said:

so is the video out yet? and what network does EMA air on, if it airs at all?




video on VH1 tomorrow. no idea if the EMA's will air in America


MTV2 will be carrying it live.
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Reply #207 posted 10/26/05 2:14pm

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jayaredee said:

The American charts seem more dependant on airplay then anything. And it seems that radio just doesn't want to support the song as well as they could.
I don't think Warner can do much about it, and i doubt they offered any payola either.
Z100 is apparantly barely playing it. It's just the musical climate in the US. The track is doing pretty darn good worldwide though.

It debuted on the UK airplay charts at #4.



Radio is supporting this song big time right now. The song was just released to radio a week last monday and is in the Top 30 after 1 chart week and is the biggest gainer.

Everything debuts in the top 10 on the UK charts.

Hung Up will be #1 on the US airplay charts ..mark my word. the video and the album release hype hasnt even kicked in yet
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...double post edit
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Reply #209 posted 10/26/05 2:54pm

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newpower99 said:

jayaredee said:

The American charts seem more dependant on airplay then anything. And it seems that radio just doesn't want to support the song as well as they could.
I don't think Warner can do much about it, and i doubt they offered any payola either.
Z100 is apparantly barely playing it. It's just the musical climate in the US. The track is doing pretty darn good worldwide though.

It debuted on the UK airplay charts at #4.



Radio is supporting this song big time right now. The song was just released to radio a week last monday and is in the Top 30 after 1 chart week and is the biggest gainer.

Everything debuts in the top 10 on the UK charts.

Hung Up will be #1 on the US airplay charts ..mark my word. the video and the album release hype hasnt even kicked in yet
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Well i'm gonna hold your word and if you're wrong, then you'll have to make love to me as a consequense. biggrin
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