I was just reading The Jeff Beck biography, "Crazy Fingers" and came across a nice quote concerning Hendrix...when asked how he felt jamming with Jimi, Jeff replied,

"at first it was intimidating; I kinda felt like a peanut about to be blown away, but Jimi was really into my style of playing, which I found hard to believe at first...but it eventually dawned on me that Jimi wasn't a Messiah... he was an honest to goodness, dyed in the wool, true music fan, He came to jam, he couldn't have cared less about fame, status, and the whole superstar thing. He wasn't trying to blow anyone off the stage. He wanted to play and see what you were feeling...."



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Meh...

I'll interpret that quote as Beck still trying to downplay Hendrix's influence and legacy to this day.

Meh...

I'll interpret that quote as Beck still trying to downplay Hendrix's influence and legacy to this day.

chuckaducci said:

Not at all! he's just pointing out the fact that, for Jimi, the Music was all that mattered. He wasn't into ego-tripping and star power. he just wanted to play.
That quote was just an excerpt. They go out of their way to praise Hendrix in the book. In a later quote, Jeff remarked, " Hendrix was my hero-- I'm sad that he's gone, because he was the one that I believed in. I don't believe in anybody else anymore..."
Very cool. In the thread I wrote about Hendrix Invasion of England, that was the whole point. All of the cats, including Beck, were just floored by Jimi. Hendrix made them rethink what the fuck they were doing on guitar. Beck, admired that and was the one that held his mind together and didn't lose his cool and shit.

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I dislike the overt praising of Jimi Hendrix. It's beyond silly.

Because if we really want to get down to it (which will make some jimi purists mad because it shatters a fantasy)

Buddy Guy was just as great as Jimi

Al Di Meola

Zappa was just as dope as Jimi

Santana was just as dope as Jimi

John Mclaughlin was just as dope as Jimi

Johnny Guitar Watson

Wes

Roy Buchanan

Danny Gatton

Adrian Belew

Albert Collins

Robert Cray

Prince

Rundgren

Stevie Ray was as dope as Jimi was

Albert King

Jeff beck

Jerry Garcia...

Duane Allman

e...t....c

But I understand the martyr game it's just a bad illusion of weeping for someone most people did not ever know personally paying hommage to him.



UNLESS you are talking Feedback then I would say to you JIMI was one of the KINGs of that but the fan bots and the authors have just gone GA GA over History Revisionism and really someone needs to stand up and say "You know what? Guitar isnt just feedback and marshall stacks theres a artform in rock you are smuthering out because Hendrix purists want all the glory" And im sorry but it's true. I've seen the 8000 bios that are all the effin same just hocked together.
And I keep thinking, why not write for a different artist who is yet to be discovered? This Jimi Territory has been raked clean.

trying to make one guitarist omninous over the rest...

But the truth is the first one to dismiss all of the accolades would be Hendrix himself. Jimi as the best guitarist which is one of the most obvious "Honor the Martyr"Comments and you see it at conventions



I saw fucking Hedges turn Madonna's Lucky star into something otherwordly.
He had this ability to warp earcandy pop into something fans would go "How the hell did you do that"

no amps/no wah pedal NOTHING Hedges and his whole body and a guitar.

and if you don't think he is one of the best guitarists
I gurantee you Hendrix would kiss the guitar that Hedges played on.

And you haven't lived until you seen Hedges play All Along the Watchtower

Really what Hendrix fans are blinded by is because of his tragic death
It's one of the biggest myths in Rock history.

There was more to Rock than Feedback and wah wah. There's Reverb,12 string,Delay,


P.S. I saw Jeff Baxter at a seminar and that guy is as dope as Jimi on the guitar.



You know what it's like it's like saying John Lee Hooker and BB King are the lords of the blues. No, Son House and T-Bone Walker were just as great
It's like Saying Coltrane/Parker were the King of the Sax.

No Mf he wasn't Eric Dolphy and Roland Kirk were just as BAAD. Pharoah Sanders IS just as great as Trane on sax.



Now Jimi fans can accept it or hear it straight from GOD and Jimi when they go to the light. It's all perception. And thats all it is and the music socialites gassed the fans of JIMI hardcore.

The truth is there are hundreds of great guitarists in bands and studio that just don't get the recognition because of no catalog or management with connections.
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I dislike the overt praising of Jimi Hendrix. It's beyond silly.

But I understand the martyr game

Really what Hendrix fans are blinded by is because of his tragic death
It's one of the biggest myths in Rock history.

You know what it's like it's like saying John Lee Hooker and BB King are the lords of the blues. No, Son House and T-Bone Walker were just as great

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I dislike the overt praising of Jimi Hendrix. It's beyond silly.

I dislike the overt praising of Jimi Hendrix. It's beyond silly.
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Trickology said:

Glad you were able to exercise your writing chops, dude. No one on this board, especially the musicians, deifies Hendrix. Most of us are a sober bunch and realize that there are scores of talented guitarists out there. Hendrix gets a lot of recognition because of his overall skills he bought to music in general. The masterful rhythm playing, studio mastery, lyric writing, stage performance, imagery (he just looked the part), desire to improve his skills, the openess to jamming with fellow musicians, his way with the ladies - I could go on and on. Jimi personified what a rock guitar god should be and that crosses all barriers. Yngwie Malmsteen, as technically accomplished as he is, still regards Jimi as one of his heroes. It's all about what Hendrix represented as well as what he played/how he played.

If anything, some posters on these boards (I've noticed that none of the musicians do it) overrate Prince...

Really what Hendrix fans are blinded by is because of his tragic death
It's one of the biggest myths in Rock history.

PFJ: I'm sorry. I don't follow. What exactly is the myth and how does it blind these Jimi fans?

You know what it's like it's like saying John Lee Hooker and BB King are the lords of the blues. No, Son House and T-Bone Walker were just as great
It's like Saying Coltrane/Parker were the King of the Sax.

PFJ: Problem here is you're hung up on title and not focusing on specifcs. BB is noted for bending strings for single note articulation. Hooker for the booogies he writes and T-Bone for the jazzy inflections of his tone. It's allpart of a continuum; not a horse race. The sax thing is a continuum. Parker's improvs in bebop laid the ground work for Trane's advances in modal bop. They were never in any competition. Trane had to go thru Sonny Rollins and Dexter Gordon to get to Parker.


No Mf he wasn't Eric Dolphy and Roland Kirk were just as BAAD. Pharoah Sanders IS just as great as Trane on sax.

PFJ: far be it from Trane to disparage any of these saxists. Matter-of-fact he had Dolphy and Sanders in his bands!


Now Jimi fans can accept it or hear it straight from GOD and Jimi when they go to the light. It's all perception. And thats all it is and the music socialites gassed the fans of JIMI hardcore.

PFJ: I realize now you're fuming about some "Greatest 100 Guitarist" list. LOL Relax and breathe. It's not that important.

The truth is there are hundreds of great guitarists in bands and studio that just don't get the recognition because of no catalog or management with connections.

PFJ: Totally agree with this, but that has nothing to do with the recognition Jimi Hendrix gets. I'm willing to bet if you ask any of 'em they'll say this is more than Jimi's due. A couple of them post here so go ahead and ask.

I dislike the overt praising of Jimi Hendrix. It's beyond silly.

Because if we really want to get down to it (which will make some jimi purists mad because it shatters a fantasy)

Buddy Guy was just as great as Jimi

Al Di Meola

Zappa was just as dope as Jimi

Santana was just as dope as Jimi

John Mclaughlin was just as dope as Jimi

Johnny Guitar Watson

Wes

Roy Buchanan

Danny Gatton

Adrian Belew

Albert Collins

Robert Cray

Prince

Rundgren

Stevie Ray was as dope as Jimi was

Albert King

Jeff beck

Jerry Garcia...

Duane Allman

e...t....c

But I understand the martyr game it's just a bad illusion of weeping for someone most people did not ever know personally paying hommage to him.

hendrix is the greatest ever,
he is like a fucking king compared to anyone else

Where have I heard Hendrix lauded the most?
Not from fan bots and authors but from other guitarists themselves.

JesseDezz said:

And there it is.

blackguitaristz said:

We overrate Prince because some of us feel his playing is UNDERrated elsewhere...

CreamyThighs said:

SOME of us - or just you? This thread was over and done with - I've noticed that the majority of your posts defend the P man in some form or fashion. This was a pretty objective thread - please don't taint/hijack with your "P is underrated" defenses. No one was dissing him. There's no need to defend him - he gets the respect. This is Prince.org...

JesseDezz said:

Go to hell. I never accused anyone of attacking Prince. It was YOU who said that some fans on here overrate Prince. I was merely giving an explanation as to WHY that is. I was not justifying it. It was merely an explanation. So don't you dare try to accuse me of hijacking anything. Go back and read what you said and you will discover that I was merely responding to it.

CreamyThighs said:

Don't tell me to go to hell - such nastiness isn't necessary. Just simply disagree with me, that's all. As to what I was saying, there was/isn't a need for u to explain as to why that is. I've been on this board a lot longer than u, so I'm more than a little familiar with the way things work around here. Just orgers having an informative discussion among the musicians here. Our perspectives are usually different from non-musicians, hence my statement about Prince being overrated by some. Prince gets the utmost respect, but there are other great musicians out there as well. That's all it was about, Creamythighs (that's actually a cool name - hope you're female).

Peace, JesseDezz