He can do a lot of insane slapping/popping stuff on the
bass but do you think he's a good musician?

as in does he make good music?

As an example, listen to Tutu...



...by Miles Davis

Where he plays many of the instruments as well as writing and arranging.


Short answer = A resounding YES.


tA


Tribal Disorder

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theAudience said:

Marcus Miller plays different instruments?
I didn't know that.. enlighten me.

Tribal Disorder

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Marcus Miller plays different instruments?
I didn't know that.. enlighten me. [/quote]

U need to be slapped for that comment ...Marcus prolly plays more instruments than Prince cuz Marcus plays horns as well(alto sax, etc)

here's all the instruments that Marcus played on his last CD, SILVER RAIN:

guitar, acoustic guitar, bass clarinet, woodwinds, soprano saxophone, piano, Fender Rhodes piano, Clavinet, keyboards, synthesizer, Moog synthesizer, talk box, voice box, acoustic bass guitar, bass guitar, fretless bass, drums, udo drum, drum machine, hi-hat, tambourine, hand claps, percussion
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smellmyfunk said:

Buy an album and find out for yourself. SILVER RAIN is his newest.

We should repeal your name for this thread, but at least you "axed sumbody".

LoveAlive said:

Marcus Miller plays different instruments?
I didn't know that.. enlighten me. [/quote]

U need to be slapped for that comment ...Marcus prolly plays more instruments than Prince cuz Marcus plays horns as well(alto sax, etc)

here's all the instruments that Marcus played on his last CD, SILVER RAIN:

guitar, acoustic guitar, bass clarinet, woodwinds, soprano saxophone, piano, Fender Rhodes piano, Clavinet, keyboards, synthesizer, Moog synthesizer, talk box, voice box, acoustic bass guitar, bass guitar, fretless bass, drums, udo drum, drum machine, hi-hat, tambourine, hand claps, percussion
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You kidding me?

MM loves Prince and has done many covers, but as far as musicianship goes he puts Prince to shame. Prince blows him out on vocals, cuz MM simply can't sing worth a damn. MM has made his mark on Miles, Luther and his own albums. One of the best bass players around and recognized as an innovator.

PFunkjazz said:

U need to be slapped for that comment ...Marcus prolly plays more instruments than Prince cuz Marcus plays horns as well(alto sax, etc)

here's all the instruments that Marcus played on his last CD, SILVER RAIN:

guitar, acoustic guitar, bass clarinet, woodwinds, soprano saxophone, piano, Fender Rhodes piano, Clavinet, keyboards, synthesizer, Moog synthesizer, talk box, voice box, acoustic bass guitar, bass guitar, fretless bass, drums, udo drum, drum machine, hi-hat, tambourine, hand claps, percussion
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MM loves Prince and has done many covers, but as far as musicianship goes he puts Prince to shame. Prince blows him out on vocals, cuz MM simply can't sing worth a damn. MM has made his mark on Miles, Luther and his own albums. One of the best bass players around and recognized as an innovator.[/quote]

LoveAlive said:

Marcus Miller plays different instruments?
I didn't know that.. enlighten me. [/quote]

U need to be slapped for that comment ...Marcus prolly plays more instruments than Prince cuz Marcus plays horns as well(alto sax, etc)

here's all the instruments that Marcus played on his last CD, SILVER RAIN:

guitar, acoustic guitar, bass clarinet, woodwinds, soprano saxophone, piano, Fender Rhodes piano, Clavinet, keyboards, synthesizer, Moog synthesizer, talk box, voice box, acoustic bass guitar, bass guitar, fretless bass, drums, udo drum, drum machine, hi-hat, tambourine, hand claps, percussion
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well, i didn't even know he existed until just recently.
I have a VCD[Marcus Miller - Live In Concert] of him on my comp and it's amazing!

bump, cause i wanna know more about this cat.

smellmyfunk said:

Quit jivin' and get a cd already.

PFunkjazz said:

I would... but i'm broke!

...
In an interview with Jaco Pastorius in the early eighties, he was asked if there were some newer bassists that he liked. he replied," there's a young guy named Marcus Miller; he's gonna be great!...."


a Partial list of the people Marcus Miller has played with and/or produced:


Bee Gees
Luther Vandross
Miles Davis
Frank Sinatra
Aretha Franklin
David Sanborn
Jimmy Buffet
Mariah Carey
Dizzy Gillespie
George Benson
Earl Klugh
Meshell Ndegeocello
Roberta Flack
Al Jarreau
Whitney Houston
Elton John
Herbie Hancock
Chaka Khan
Brecker Brothers
Victor Wooten
Jonatha Brooke
Donald Fagen
Billy Idol
Michael McDonald
Bill Withers
Tom Browne
Peabo Bryson
Michael Franks
Bob James
Take 6
Temptations
Chick Corea
Dave Grusin
Bryan Ferry
Boz Scaggs
Til Tuesday
Scritti Politti
Wayne Shorter
Carly Simon
The Spinners
Stanley Turrentine
Bernard Wright
E.U.
The Crusaders
Dionne Warwick
Kevin Eubanks
Lenny White
Cheryl Lynn
Jamaica Boyz
Spyro Gyra
Joe Sample
Teddy Pendergrass
Joan Armatrading
Stephanie Mills
Lee Ritenour
Melba Moore
Aztec Camera
Kazumi Watanabe
Was(not) Was
Grover Washington Jr.

...just to name some.....




...
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paligap said:

Man those Sanborn sessions are HOT!

LoveAlive said:

Marcus Miller plays different instruments?
I didn't know that.. enlighten me. [/quote]

U need to be slapped for that comment ...Marcus prolly plays more instruments than Prince cuz Marcus plays horns as well(alto sax, etc)

here's all the instruments that Marcus played on his last CD, SILVER RAIN:

guitar, acoustic guitar, bass clarinet, woodwinds, soprano saxophone, piano, Fender Rhodes piano, Clavinet, keyboards, synthesizer, Moog synthesizer, talk box, voice box, acoustic bass guitar, bass guitar, fretless bass, drums, udo drum, drum machine, hi-hat, tambourine, hand claps, percussion
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[/quote]
There it is.

smellmyfunk said:

who said u needed money...

I respect his craft, but his production puts me in snooze mode. Also, his 'fresh strings'-bass sound annoys me.

I caught his set at a jazz festival, in which he featured Lalah Hathaway - good show. She did 'Killing me softly'
and sung an acapella song. Then, two years later, I mistakenly thought he was promoting a new album, and was
served the exact same show, extended to a full clubset, minus Lalah. All in all, we did feel robbed. I did
not pay to see Marcus noodle around on all the instruments available on-stage, just to show he can.

His guitarist, Dean Brown, is amazing though. They should be capable of delivering something fresh live.

LoveAlive said:

Wow, he plays guitar AND acoustic guitar?!? He plays piano AND Fender Rhodes piano AND keyboards AND clavinet?!?!? Synthesizer AND moog synthesizer.

Why beef it up like that. I could probably list a hundred instruments that I play if I listed it like that.

I concur.

Ikaros said:

It's nice to get different perspectives from a similar experience. I caught MM when he was featuring Lallah Hathaway doing jakkfests shows. I grumbled and groused cuz there was too much of her. I wanted "mo' bass mo' bass", but Lallah was such a crowd pleaser with the pop-jazz contingent I just muttered into my beer and was decidedly unhappy. (Mind now that MM brings out passable jazz fans, hardcore jazzbos and bass aficianados, of which I'm the latter two).

Maybe 2 years later MM came around to do a club date. Lallah was to be featured, so I hemmed and hawed, but eventually made it down for a set. Lallah only did 1 selection and was gone, but MM's performance was much better! Lots of "noodling" on the differnt basses and the "Amazing Grace" feature on bass clarinet had me banging the tables and yelling like a fool!

The band was outstanding, drummer Poogie Bell had me rivted with his great playing. On the way out I heard some couples grousing "Where'd Lallah go?"
I was just a giddy ol' bass lovin' fusion-geek!

Notes
It's true he kept the same setlist for almost 3 years, but I saw him again on the SILVER RAIN tour and that's changed to incorporate newer material. Also, Dean Brown was not with him.

This is amazing.

I was just thinking today: "You need to start a Marcus thread. Boy doesn't get enough respect or mention at this site..."

And, here one is.

Marcus loves a lot of the same chord styles as Prince, but he comes more from the schools of Miles and Stevie.

Has a real knack for multiple bass lines, like P does, but is far more technically proficient than Skipper.

Marcus will break your face on so many instruments... But he's absolutely KILLER on the bass.

And, a big fat to the cat who doesn't like MM's tone!!! You probably wouldn't believe how sought-after that sound is!!!

Amazing...

And dang!!! I've been going nuts over the bass part to Jonatha Brooke's "Room in My Heart" for over a year, and it turns out it was Marcus!!!!

I want to scream. I love what he does on that song, beginning to end. And, I'm glad that's MM layin' it down like that.

Mercy. Too cold.

ThreadBare said:

I'd like to break down the concept sound into tone and playing style, the latter being
a factor that weighs just as much as the former. Anyway, I come from the Jaco camp.

Ikaros said:

I hear you (Marcus does a mean cover of "Teen Town," by the way, on his The Sun Don't Lie release. It's no joke.

I think tone and sound actually trump playing style. I hear Clapton play, and I study the composition of his runs. MOST of the time, he's not doing anything jaw-droppingly astounding, but it SOUNDS head and shoulders above other players' riffs. It's all part of the tone and sound (and the fact that he's a very, very good player...)

Marcus is a great player. But, I've heard other bass cats kill their axes without sounding as compellingly good (to me) as Marcus. It's his tone. On The Sun... and Tales, his tone is outstanding. His tone on Silver Rain didn't strike me as being as sweet. But I could be wrong.

http://www2u.biglobe.ne.j...Runfor.wmv

100MPH said:

Thanks!

Great musician. Crap singer.

:

Although the vocal-concept/arrangements of these songs are good :

1983 :
- Be My Love ( great arranged harmony-vocals )
- Just What I Needed
- Lovin' You ( another nice and earlier version by Roberta Flack ( 1980 ) )
- Much Too Much
- Suddenly

1984 :
- I Could Give You More
- Is There Anything I Can Do
- My Best Friend's Girlfriend
- Nadine
- Perfect Guy
- Unforgettable

He has his shortcomings.

Novabreaker said:

who hasn't ?