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PrintableVinnyM27 said: VinnyM27 said: At the time of "Music", dance music wasn't unheard of on radio. Now it's been all but banished. Maybe it's because there are no pop stations left. Over here, dance music doesn't get a chance unless it's disco (the light stations like to have flash back weekends). I remember early on stating and thinking that this will be a huge album in every way. It will either be a bit hit or a big bomb. Honestly, I know this sounds sudden, I think it will be a big bomb. Do I love "Hung Up"? Yes, more than I liked "AL" and I really liked AL! Just because it bombs doesn't mean it's bad. "All Nite" was irrestible but also ignored. I realize that there are dance stations that will eat this up but how many dance stations are there? Enough to to create a Top Ten hit? Rome wasn't built in a day and hip-hop dominating radio didn't happen in a day either. About ten years ago, I remember when pop stations used to edit out the rap in somg hip hop songs if possible ("Waterfalls" is a prime example). Now of days, hip hop took over and artists like Janet and Madonna are damn near banned. I don't see Madonna bringing pop back that quickly. Then again, if anyone could. Still, I don't see or hear it happening. At least fans will have the album... I am optimistically disagreeing. I know several that were not too impressed with Music and even less so with American Life. Those same people are very excited about the new song and will most likely pick up the album when it hits the stores. I think her core base is still big and strong enough to put this album beyond AL...definitely. And AL was no bomb by a long shot...by her standards...YES. But it still went straight to number one. I think this will put her back in the basking lime light she is used to. It's hard to believe that Ray of Light was almost 8 years ago, but I still see her as being able to push out an album like that ...EASILY  I'm just surprised the last two weren't like that one at all. Then again, look at who produced the last two albums. SHe should have stuck with William for at least another past ROL.Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: VinnyM27 said: I remember early on stating and thinking that this will be a huge album in every way. It will either be a bit hit or a big bomb. Honestly, I know this sounds sudden, I think it will be a big bomb. Do I love "Hung Up"? Yes, more than I liked "AL" and I really liked AL! Just because it bombs doesn't mean it's bad. "All Nite" was irrestible but also ignored. I realize that there are dance stations that will eat this up but how many dance stations are there? Enough to to create a Top Ten hit? Rome wasn't built in a day and hip-hop dominating radio didn't happen in a day either. About ten years ago, I remember when pop stations used to edit out the rap in somg hip hop songs if possible ("Waterfalls" is a prime example). Now of days, hip hop took over and artists like Janet and Madonna are damn near banned. I don't see Madonna bringing pop back that quickly. Then again, if anyone could. Still, I don't see or hear it happening. At least fans will have the album... I am optimistically disagreeing. I know several that were not too impressed with Music and even less so with American Life. Those same people are very excited about the new song and will most likely pick up the album when it hits the stores. I think her core base is still big and strong enough to put this album beyond AL...definitely. And AL was no bomb by a long shot...by her standards...YES. But it still went straight to number one. I think this will put her back in the basking lime light she is used to. It's hard to believe that Ray of Light was almost 8 years ago, but I still see her as being able to push out an album like that ...EASILY I'm just surprised the last two weren't like that one at all. Then again, look at who produced the last two albums. SHe should have stuck with William for at least another past ROL.I don't think she should have worked with WO again. I do think she should have had another co-producer alongside with Mirwais. I would love to hear the songs she did with Sasha, before music. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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Tessa said: is this the new look?
 She really does have gnarly hands. The rest of her is perfect though. | |
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just heard "Hung Up" off the website. It makes a hell of a difference from the stupid samples. I really like it. It's very 80s old school of her and it's her funnest song since "Music".
With that said, who knows how it'll do on Top 40. It could be a smash, it could not. It has the potential, that's for sure. Overall, not her best song, but good nonetheless. Hell, if the "American Life" single managed to barely make Top 40, this song will do fine. BTW, I dont think it's the same as comparing the song's possible success with the timid response Janet had with "All Nite (Dont Stop)". Though it was a fantastic dance song, she had the Nipplegate scandal clouding her, and MTV was giving her the cold shoulder(not to mention that Virgin butchered the project as far as promotion went). Madonna already has MTV eating out of her hand, not to mention WB pulling out all of the stops to make the album a success. | |
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You gues, let's stop talking about success and get into the groove. The new era has started!
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variety1317 said: You gues, let's stop talking about success and get into the groove. The new era has started!
Go here and watch Madonna on TRL: http://madonna.lighthousenews.us/ I'm just pissed that much like AL, I won't hear this song on the radio because Clear Channel and conservatives suck ass! | |
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newskin69 said: just heard "Hung Up" off the website. It makes a hell of a difference from the stupid samples. I really like it. It's very 80s old school of her and it's her funnest song since "Music".
With that said, who knows how it'll do on Top 40. It could be a smash, it could not. It has the potential, that's for sure. Overall, not her best song, but good nonetheless. Hell, if the "American Life" single managed to barely make Top 40, this song will do fine. BTW, I dont think it's the same as comparing the song's possible success with the timid response Janet had with "All Nite (Dont Stop)". Though it was a fantastic dance song, she had the Nipplegate scandal clouding her, and MTV was giving her the cold shoulder(not to mention that Virgin butchered the project as far as promotion went). Madonna already has MTV eating out of her hand, not to mention WB pulling out all of the stops to make the album a success. I've been watching clips from TRL....they are definately kissing her ass and seem to be rooting for this album. They sort of helped out AL in the beginging, too, but if they supported the AL video in the first place, which they did not, it would have been much nicer! | |
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VinnyM27 said: variety1317 said: You gues, let's stop talking about success and get into the groove. The new era has started!
Go here and watch Madonna on TRL: http://madonna.lighthousenews.us/ I'm just pissed that much like AL, I won't hear this song on the radio because Clear Channel and conservatives suck ass! it's on clear channel's AC stations. give it a couple days to appear on the top 40 stations. it will happen. [Edited 10/17/05 15:25pm] You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: VinnyM27 said: I'm just pissed that much like AL, I won't hear this song on the radio because Clear Channel and conservatives suck ass! it's on clear channel's AC stations. give it a couple days to appear on the top 40 stations. it will happen. [Edited 10/17/05 15:25pm] What happened to the world wide premeire? I think if the stations here wanted to play, it would be playing by now.... | |
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ehuffnsd said: superspaceboy said: I am optimistically disagreeing. I know several that were not too impressed with Music and even less so with American Life. Those same people are very excited about the new song and will most likely pick up the album when it hits the stores. I think her core base is still big and strong enough to put this album beyond AL...definitely. And AL was no bomb by a long shot...by her standards...YES. But it still went straight to number one. I think this will put her back in the basking lime light she is used to. It's hard to believe that Ray of Light was almost 8 years ago, but I still see her as being able to push out an album like that ...EASILY I'm just surprised the last two weren't like that one at all. Then again, look at who produced the last two albums. SHe should have stuck with William for at least another past ROL.I don't think she should have worked with WO again. I do think she should have had another co-producer alongside with Mirwais. I would love to hear the songs she did with Sasha, before music. Why do you think that. Even though he was old school by then...I thought he added a complexity and richness she had not yet had on an album. Personally, I didn't like the directon Mirwais took her music. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: ehuffnsd said: I don't think she should have worked with WO again. I do think she should have had another co-producer alongside with Mirwais. I would love to hear the songs she did with Sasha, before music. Why do you think that. Even though he was old school by then...I thought he added a complexity and richness she had not yet had on an album. Personally, I didn't like the directon Mirwais took her music. i like alot of the tracks that Mirwais did with Madge and I like alot of the stuff that she did with WO. However i think that WO was less able to chage style. Mirwais i don't think really showed his stuff til AL. Though I would have loved to hear AL before WBR sent it back to be rerecorded. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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umm..i think im pretty objectional on madge and i see a lot of wishful thinking on behalf of the fans here..
this song is not great..its not a great lead off...the style isnt groundbreaking..the song actually sounds like her previous work (from a non-famatic ear) from American Life....actually, it kinda reminds me of American Life. She best have an awesome video for this because this puppy is gonna tank.. want my credentials? i knew from the first listen that like a prayer, vogue and music (and to a lesser extend frozen) would sell madge's entire album.....ray of light was the lone exception in that each song released was better and built on momentum... this song is just as "blah" as american life...just not as grating...hopefully the rest of the album will be better.. and no way in hell is this as great a song as Believe.. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: umm..i think im pretty objectional on madge and i see a lot of wishful thinking on behalf of the fans here..
this song is not great..its not a great lead off...the style isnt groundbreaking..the song actually sounds like her previous work (from a non-famatic ear) from American Life....actually, it kinda reminds me of American Life. She best have an awesome video for this because this puppy is gonna tank.. want my credentials? i knew from the first listen that like a prayer, vogue and music (and to a lesser extend frozen) would sell madge's entire album.....ray of light was the lone exception in that each song released was better and built on momentum... this song is just as "blah" as american life...just not as grating...hopefully the rest of the album will be better.. and no way in hell is this as great a song as Believe.. Why do u think that? Hung Up is a fun song, while a crapload of the songs on American Life were littered with self-indulgent lyrics. Is it a brilliant song? Not by her standards. But it's a good dance song and really captures the spirit of early 80s NYC Madonna. How you think it's comparable to American Life is odd. I guess I view it up to par with Ray of Light and Music(the songs)... [Edited 10/17/05 22:27pm] | |
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sosgemini said: umm..i think im pretty objectional on madge and i see a lot of wishful thinking on behalf of the fans here..
this song is not great..its not a great lead off...the style isnt groundbreaking..the song actually sounds like her previous work (from a non-famatic ear) from American Life....actually, it kinda reminds me of American Life. She best have an awesome video for this because this puppy is gonna tank.. want my credentials? i knew from the first listen that like a prayer, vogue and music (and to a lesser extend frozen) would sell madge's entire album.....ray of light was the lone exception in that each song released was better and built on momentum... this song is just as "blah" as american life...just not as grating...hopefully the rest of the album will be better.. and no way in hell is this as great a song as Believe.. agreed, and im more then just a objectional listener. i love madonna, but this song is not so great and no where near the level of ray of light or music. the film clip looks fabulous though and will probably make me like the song more. i havent heard it on radio yet either, and hearing things on radio usually sound better for some reason so i might like it better when i do [Edited 10/17/05 23:22pm] | |
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sosgemini said: umm..i think im pretty objectional on madge and i see a lot of wishful thinking on behalf of the fans here..
this song is not great..its not a great lead off...the style isnt groundbreaking..the song actually sounds like her previous work (from a non-famatic ear) from American Life....actually, it kinda reminds me of American Life. She best have an awesome video for this because this puppy is gonna tank.. want my credentials? i knew from the first listen that like a prayer, vogue and music (and to a lesser extend frozen) would sell madge's entire album.....ray of light was the lone exception in that each song released was better and built on momentum... this song is just as "blah" as american life...just not as grating...hopefully the rest of the album will be better.. and no way in hell is this as great a song as Believe.. I was just waiting for you to start criticizing this song 
This song sounds absolutely nothing like the 'American Life' material.Maybe you haven't listened to that album in awhile,but most of those songs are electronic pop/folk with lots of acoustic guitar.There's not alot of dance music there."Hung Up" is pure dance music with a retro 80s New Wave feel to it.If you don't like the song,that's fine,but I just don't see how you think it sounds like American Life in any way.Madonna doesn't like to repeat herself.Without question,this new album won't sound anything like 'Music' or 'American Life'. "The style isn't groundbreaking"---I never understand why people always expect Madonna to re-invent the wheel whenever she makes a new album.No,this song is not groundbreaking,but NOTHING in pop music today is groundbreaking."Believe" wasn't a groundbreaking song at all.It was just "techno-lite",Cher's way of jumping on the electronica bandwagon that Madonna had already ventured into."Hung Up" is not groundbreaking and it wasn't meant to be.It's just a fun,dance tune that re-connects Maddy with her dance music roots. ... [Edited 10/18/05 0:23am] | |
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I heard the track in its entirety for the first time yesterday, and I like it, although I would definitely say that its not even in the same league as Like A Prayer & Vogue, but that said neither were Erotica & Secret and they both yielded pretty good albums.
It took me a long time to get my head around Frozen and Music as lead off singles, but in hindsight i think they're brilliant madonna singles so time will tell. Hung Up does exactly what it says on the tin, its unapoligetic, camp, happy dance music, and its naggingly catchy. Its exactly the kind of influence I expected Stuart Price to bring to her sound, and I really look forward to hearing what they've come up with on the album. Madonna needs to move on withe every record and it sounds like shes done it with this. AL for all its great songs sounded too much like an extension of ideas explored on Music. Erotica, Bedtime Stories, Ray Of Light, Music, all sound radically different from each other, but i think AL was the first to buck this trend (despite the fact that there was some really great stuff on there). I think Confessions will be really good, im confident of it because she's doing something different from before, and that always seems to inspire the best in her. | |
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I don't think "Hung Up" is one of her best singles,but it's still a great song.It's alot of fun...very catchy and commercial and I predict it will be a massive hit for her. | |
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oh yes, one thing this song defiently is, is catchy. even though im not too fond of it i always catch myself singing that bloody chorus, lol. | |
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DavidEye said: sosgemini said: umm..i think im pretty objectional on madge and i see a lot of wishful thinking on behalf of the fans here..
this song is not great..its not a great lead off...the style isnt groundbreaking..the song actually sounds like her previous work (from a non-famatic ear) from American Life....actually, it kinda reminds me of American Life. She best have an awesome video for this because this puppy is gonna tank.. want my credentials? i knew from the first listen that like a prayer, vogue and music (and to a lesser extend frozen) would sell madge's entire album.....ray of light was the lone exception in that each song released was better and built on momentum... this song is just as "blah" as american life...just not as grating...hopefully the rest of the album will be better.. and no way in hell is this as great a song as Believe.. I was just waiting for you to start criticizing this song
This song sounds absolutely nothing like the 'American Life' material.Maybe you haven't listened to that album in awhile,but most of those songs are electronic pop/folk with lots of acoustic guitar.There's not alot of dance music there."Hung Up" is pure dance music with a retro 80s New Wave feel to it.If you don't like the song,that's fine,but I just don't see how you think it sounds like American Life in any way.Madonna doesn't like to repeat herself.Without question,this new album won't sound anything like 'Music' or 'American Life'. "The style isn't groundbreaking"---I never understand why people always expect Madonna to re-invent the wheel whenever she makes a new album.No,this song is not groundbreaking,but NOTHING in pop music today is groundbreaking."Believe" wasn't a groundbreaking song at all.It was just "techno-lite",Cher's way of jumping on the electronica bandwagon that Madonna had already ventured into."Hung Up" is not groundbreaking and it wasn't meant to be.It's just a fun,dance tune that re-connects Maddy with her dance music roots. ... [Edited 10/18/05 0:23am] why are you arguing? its just my fucking opinion man..your free to yours. not everything is a fucking debate...damn!!! 
and stop sucking madges tit and let people form their own fucking views.... and stop acting like you know madges fucking motivations... thats just silly.. "oh..the song wasnt meant to be groundbreaking..its fun fluff...just like its meant to be"..you dont know that was her intentions...  Space for sale... | |
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CrozzaUK said: I heard the track in its entirety for the first time yesterday, and I like it, although I would definitely say that its not even in the same league as Like A Prayer & Vogue, but that said neither were Erotica & Secret and they both yielded pretty good albums.
thats true..... and for the folks wondering..when i listen to this i think of a song kylie would release as her second track...(kylie has a habit of releasing a killer first song and following it up with a blahhh second release).... this song is nothing new for madonna..sure its fun...but its not memorable...IMHO. and when your coming off a blah previous album you best either have a solid track (which this isnt..) or someting groundbreaking to grab peoples attention.(once again..this isnt).. go on and express what you want about the song now...cause thats all im doing...hopefully the second song will impress me enough to want to buy the album. cause right now im not sold... Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: why are you arguing? its just my fucking opinion man..your free to yours. not everything is a fucking debate...damn!!!
to be fair, you phrased your "opinion" like it was fact.  | |
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ehuffnsd said: Single due on Itunes today
Maxi single 11/1 Single in stores 11/8 Catalog Number: 9 49987-2 1. (Radio Edit) / "Souls Divided" (Non-Album Track) / (CD Rom Video) (Enhanced Element) "Hung Up" U.S Vinyl/CD Maxi-Single Catalog Number: (to be announced) 1. "Hung Up" (Stuart Price Phonicks Vocal) (6:10) 2. "Hung Up" (Bassment Jaxx Re-Work) (7:39) 3. "Hung Up" (Fierce & Coppola's Twisted Connection Club Mix) (9:43) 4. "Hung Up" (Jan Driver's Club Extravaganza) (8:34) 5. "Mother And Father" (Peter Rauhofer's Re-Invention Remix) (10:23) (CD Only) 6. "Mother And Father" (Johnny Rocks World Anthem Mixshow) (5:49) (CD Only) i believe this info is incorrect. "I don't need your forgiveness, cos I've been saved by Jesus, so fuck you." | |
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newskin69 said: just heard "Hung Up" off the website. It makes a hell of a difference from the stupid samples. I really like it. It's very 80s old school of her and it's her funnest song since "Music".
With that said, who knows how it'll do on Top 40. It could be a smash, it could not. It has the potential, that's for sure. Overall, not her best song, but good nonetheless. Hell, if the "American Life" single managed to barely make Top 40, this song will do fine. BTW, I dont think it's the same as comparing the song's possible success with the timid response Janet had with "All Nite (Dont Stop)". Though it was a fantastic dance song, she had the Nipplegate scandal clouding her, and MTV was giving her the cold shoulder(not to mention that Virgin butchered the project as far as promotion went). Madonna already has MTV eating out of her hand, not to mention WB pulling out all of the stops to make the album a success. yeah, pluss All Nite was boring and generic. "I don't need your forgiveness, cos I've been saved by Jesus, so fuck you." | |
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I brought the song off of iTunes last night and I really like it. It's very danceable and it stays in your head which is what good pop music is supposed to do. Madonna might have a hit with this one. Since it was an radio edit, I can't wait to hear the whole song. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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sosgemini said: CrozzaUK said: I heard the track in its entirety for the first time yesterday, and I like it, although I would definitely say that its not even in the same league as Like A Prayer & Vogue, but that said neither were Erotica & Secret and they both yielded pretty good albums.
thats true..... and for the folks wondering..when i listen to this i think of a song kylie would release as her second track...(kylie has a habit of releasing a killer first song and following it up with a blahhh second release).... ... This sounds like Kylie in a certain way, I'll agree (and get back to that in a second). When I first heard the 15 second clips, I HATED the song. I thought it sounded like she was pandering to what's worked for Kylie and Gwen, rather than showing THEM what to do next. Having heard the complete song, in great quality a few times now, I have to say that yeah, it IS kind of like Kylie.... if Kylie had any energy or ambition, instead of just cooing through a mid-tempo disco groove. "I don't need your forgiveness, cos I've been saved by Jesus, so fuck you." | |
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Hung Up - Maxi Single
Radio Edit SDP Extended Vocal Mix Tracy Young Get Up And Dance Groove Mix Edit Bill Hamel Mix Chus and Ceballos Mix SDP Extended Dub "I don't need your forgiveness, cos I've been saved by Jesus, so fuck you." | |
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it might not be the greatest Madonna lead off single.
but it's excatly what she needs right now. and she knows it. fame and popularity have always been as important to her as artistic merit. she was unhappy not being on top. she grab the hottest DJ out there and cranked out a dance CD. it'll be a hit it might take a couple weeks to build steam but once the video is played all eyes will be on Madonna and she'll have a hit. the young girls and gay men... who makeu p most of the record buying public will eat this up. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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the album version has leaked..... tell you what i think after i hear it  start looking!"I don't need your forgiveness, cos I've been saved by Jesus, so fuck you." | |
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not sticky anymore?  "I don't need your forgiveness, cos I've been saved by Jesus, so fuck you." | |
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sosgemini said: umm..i think im pretty objectional on madge and i see a lot of wishful thinking on behalf of the fans here..
this song is not great..its not a great lead off...the style isnt groundbreaking..the song actually sounds like her previous work (from a non-famatic ear) from American Life....actually, it kinda reminds me of American Life. She best have an awesome video for this because this puppy is gonna tank.. want my credentials? i knew from the first listen that like a prayer, vogue and music (and to a lesser extend frozen) would sell madge's entire album.....ray of light was the lone exception in that each song released was better and built on momentum... this song is just as "blah" as american life...just not as grating...hopefully the rest of the album will be better.. and no way in hell is this as great a song as Believe.. Believe =  IMHO
I also don't think this song sounds like ANYTHING like American Life. At all. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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