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The Crunge Prince ought to listen to this tune from Led Zeppelin's Houses of the Holy. If you're gonna copy James Brown, this is the way to do it. Take what's cool and add to it musically. This is a crazier groove than James ever did, odd timing, but funky as hell for 4 Brits in 1973.
And you have to love the end "Where is that confounded bridge?" Check this song out at:
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Love it.  The opening bassline and drums are too funky.
That's Robert that says the "confounded bridge" line.  If you've seen Almost Famous, there's a reference to the "bridge" in it. There's the guy groupie who is obsessed with Zeppelin, and he's wearing a shirt that says,"To be a rock and not to roll" on the back and "I've seen the bridge" on the front. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: Love it.
The opening bassline and drums are too funky.
That's Robert that says the "confounded bridge" line. If you've seen Almost Famous, there's a reference to the "bridge" in it. There's the guy groupie who is obsessed with Zeppelin, and he's wearing a shirt that says,"To be a rock and not to roll" on the back and "I've seen the bridge" on the front. I wouldn't have gotten the back of the shirt back when I saw that movie. It's a great line of self awareness--James would scream "Can I take 'em to the bridge?" and Plant, acknowledging they're tea sipping gentlemen (yeah right!) says it in his own way. I wish they had taken it to the bridge, though, instead of ending. Check this song out at:
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andyman91 said: minneapolisgenius said: Love it.
The opening bassline and drums are too funky.
That's Robert that says the "confounded bridge" line. If you've seen Almost Famous, there's a reference to the "bridge" in it. There's the guy groupie who is obsessed with Zeppelin, and he's wearing a shirt that says,"To be a rock and not to roll" on the back and "I've seen the bridge" on the front. I wouldn't have gotten the back of the shirt back when I saw that movie. It's a great line of self awareness--James would scream "Can I take 'em to the bridge?" and Plant, acknowledging they're tea sipping gentlemen (yeah right!) says it in his own way. I wish they had taken it to the bridge, though, instead of ending. That's the fun part. Never "finding" the confounded bridge. You mean you wouldn't have gotten the "to be a rock...." part of his shirt? It's the 2nd to last line from "Stairway to Heaven". "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: andyman91 said: I wouldn't have gotten the back of the shirt back when I saw that movie. It's a great line of self awareness--James would scream "Can I take 'em to the bridge?" and Plant, acknowledging they're tea sipping gentlemen (yeah right!) says it in his own way. I wish they had taken it to the bridge, though, instead of ending. That's the fun part. Never "finding" the confounded bridge. You mean you wouldn't have gotten the "to be a rock...." part of his shirt? It's the 2nd to last line from "Stairway to Heaven". Stairway to Heaven? Never heard of it! Sorry, I didn't read closely enough. I thought the "bridge" line was on the back & the "rock & not to roll" was on the front. I read recently that people (like the rock press) hated Zeppelin in the 70's. Indeed, I have a friend who likes all different kinds of rock who thinks that anyone who likes Zeppelin should be tortured. Why do you think that is? Were they seen as pretentious? Too heavy? Satanic? And who did they think was better during the early 70's?! Seems impossible with today's terrible bands that one so obviously talented like them could be hated by the press. Check this song out at:
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andyman91 said: minneapolisgenius said: That's the fun part. Never "finding" the confounded bridge. You mean you wouldn't have gotten the "to be a rock...." part of his shirt? It's the 2nd to last line from "Stairway to Heaven". Stairway to Heaven? Never heard of it! Sorry, I didn't read closely enough. I thought the "bridge" line was on the back & the "rock & not to roll" was on the front. I read recently that people (like the rock press) hated Zeppelin in the 70's. Indeed, I have a friend who likes all different kinds of rock who thinks that anyone who likes Zeppelin should be tortured. Why do you think that is? Were they seen as pretentious? Too heavy? Satanic? And who did they think was better during the early 70's?! Seems impossible with today's terrible bands that one so obviously talented like them could be hated by the press. Yeah, a little song called 'Stairway to Heaven".....you may have heard it once or twice. 
Yes, they were hated by almost ALL rock critics back in the day (with the exception of Melody Maker and Creem) and it wasn't until more recently that they began to get praise. That's why I think their Lifetime Achievement Award at the Grammys this year was such a joke. They didn't get recognized until now.
From their very first shows and their first album, they were written off as only being able to steal/and or do blues covers, and do them LOUDLY. And that was it. They were never given credit for going beyond all that. I've read many negative reviews from back in the late 60s and all the way through the 70s and the critics seemed to just stick with the same old bashing all the way through. Some of the reviews mainly just said that it was music for teenagers doped up on quaaludes. (which I'm sure many of them were)
In '75, they finally got the cover of Rolling Stone, who notoriously ALWAYS snubbed them. I guess they figured they had to finally acknowledge that Zeppelin were selling out stadiums of 70,000 on every tour, and had been for years.  So Jimmy Page didn't want to be on the cover, he hated Rolling Stone so much for not taking him seriously. Apparently, he showed up an hour late to the cover shoot and was in a really bad mood carrying a bunch of dead roses.
His excuse was something like, "I've been all over looking for black roses. They exist you know. This was the best I could do." He insisted on holding the dead flowers with an evil look on his face for the cover photo as a sign of how he felt about the press. That cover shot never made the magazine though because someone spilled something on the film and it was ruined.  I'd love to see those photos.
This is the cover they used instead....  [Edited 10/11/05 12:32pm] "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: andyman91 said: Stairway to Heaven? Never heard of it! Sorry, I didn't read closely enough. I thought the "bridge" line was on the back & the "rock & not to roll" was on the front. I read recently that people (like the rock press) hated Zeppelin in the 70's. Indeed, I have a friend who likes all different kinds of rock who thinks that anyone who likes Zeppelin should be tortured. Why do you think that is? Were they seen as pretentious? Too heavy? Satanic? And who did they think was better during the early 70's?! Seems impossible with today's terrible bands that one so obviously talented like them could be hated by the press. From their very first shows and their first album, they were written off as only being able to steal/and or do blues covers, and do them LOUDLY. And that was it. They were never given credit for going beyond all that. Insane, since right from the start they had a totally distinct sound that was the basis for hundreds of bands to follow, right up to the White Stripes! Check this song out at:
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andyman91 said: minneapolisgenius said: From their very first shows and their first album, they were written off as only being able to steal/and or do blues covers, and do them LOUDLY. And that was it. They were never given credit for going beyond all that. Insane, since right from the start they had a totally distinct sound that was the basis for hundreds of bands to follow, right up to the White Stripes! Yeah, I know. And Zeppelin III was REALLY trashed because it was an "acoustic" album, not hard enough, and the critics wanted it to sound like the other two that came before it!  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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Crap song. Great groove.
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Cloudbuster said: Crap song. Great groove.
I love it.  But then I am biased.
It's better than "Hot Dog" by a mile though. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: I love it.
But then I am biased.
It's better than "Hot Dog" by a mile though. What isn't better than Hot Dog? | |
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Cloudbuster said: minneapolisgenius said: I love it.
But then I am biased.
It's better than "Hot Dog" by a mile though. What isn't better than Hot Dog? Um, let's see...my least favorite Zeppelin song might be "Candy Store Rock"  Well, it's a tie between "Hot Dog" and that one."I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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the crunge is great, and hot dog is fun! i was never a big fan of "your time is gonna come" tho. Keep your headphones on. | |
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smokeverbs said: the crunge is great, and hot dog is fun! i was never a big fan of "your time is gonna come" tho.
I love that one! "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: andyman91 said: Stairway to Heaven? Never heard of it! Sorry, I didn't read closely enough. I thought the "bridge" line was on the back & the "rock & not to roll" was on the front. I read recently that people (like the rock press) hated Zeppelin in the 70's. Indeed, I have a friend who likes all different kinds of rock who thinks that anyone who likes Zeppelin should be tortured. Why do you think that is? Were they seen as pretentious? Too heavy? Satanic? And who did they think was better during the early 70's?! Seems impossible with today's terrible bands that one so obviously talented like them could be hated by the press. Yeah, a little song called 'Stairway to Heaven".....you may have heard it once or twice.
Yes, they were hated by almost ALL rock critics back in the day (with the exception of Melody Maker and Creem) and it wasn't until more recently that they began to get praise. That's why I think their Lifetime Achievement Award at the Grammys this year was such a joke. They didn't get recognized until now.
From their very first shows and their first album, they were written off as only being able to steal/and or do blues covers, and do them LOUDLY. And that was it. They were never given credit for going beyond all that. I've read many negative reviews from back in the late 60s and all the way through the 70s and the critics seemed to just stick with the same old bashing all the way through. Some of the reviews mainly just said that it was music for teenagers doped up on quaaludes. (which I'm sure many of them were)
In '75, they finally got the cover of Rolling Stone, who notoriously ALWAYS snubbed them. I guess they figured they had to finally acknowledge that Zeppelin were selling out stadiums of 70,000 on every tour, and had been for years. So Jimmy Page didn't want to be on the cover, he hated Rolling Stone so much for not taking him seriously. Apparently, he showed up an hour late to the cover shoot and was in a really bad mood carrying a bunch of dead roses.
His excuse was something like, "I've been all over looking for black roses. They exist you know. This was the best I could do." He insisted on holding the dead flowers with an evil look on his face for the cover photo as a sign of how he felt about the press. That cover shot never made the magazine though because someone spilled something on the film and it was ruined. I'd love to see those photos.
This is the cover they used instead....
[Edited 10/11/05 12:32pm] Yep. Val/Lori is dead on it! As for The Crunge, my mother digs this song! Hell, she digs quite a bit of Zeppelin, actually. I get a lot of my taste from her, which is cool. Anyway, this song is just proof on how FUNKY Zep was. Whenever folks ask me what type of music do I play, I always say "funk/rock. U know, like Parliament/Funkadelic, Zeppelin," They always cut me off with some shit like "Led Zeppelin??!!" And I always go "Yeah. Led Zeppelin." It's sad but most folks only listen with their eyes. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: minneapolisgenius said: Yeah, a little song called 'Stairway to Heaven".....you may have heard it once or twice.
Yes, they were hated by almost ALL rock critics back in the day (with the exception of Melody Maker and Creem) and it wasn't until more recently that they began to get praise. That's why I think their Lifetime Achievement Award at the Grammys this year was such a joke. They didn't get recognized until now.
From their very first shows and their first album, they were written off as only being able to steal/and or do blues covers, and do them LOUDLY. And that was it. They were never given credit for going beyond all that. I've read many negative reviews from back in the late 60s and all the way through the 70s and the critics seemed to just stick with the same old bashing all the way through. Some of the reviews mainly just said that it was music for teenagers doped up on quaaludes. (which I'm sure many of them were)
In '75, they finally got the cover of Rolling Stone, who notoriously ALWAYS snubbed them. I guess they figured they had to finally acknowledge that Zeppelin were selling out stadiums of 70,000 on every tour, and had been for years. So Jimmy Page didn't want to be on the cover, he hated Rolling Stone so much for not taking him seriously. Apparently, he showed up an hour late to the cover shoot and was in a really bad mood carrying a bunch of dead roses.
His excuse was something like, "I've been all over looking for black roses. They exist you know. This was the best I could do." He insisted on holding the dead flowers with an evil look on his face for the cover photo as a sign of how he felt about the press. That cover shot never made the magazine though because someone spilled something on the film and it was ruined. I'd love to see those photos.
This is the cover they used instead....
[Edited 10/11/05 12:32pm] Yep. Val/Lori is dead on it! As for The Crunge, my mother digs this song! Hell, she digs quite a bit of Zeppelin, actually. I get a lot of my taste from her, which is cool. Anyway, this song is just proof on how FUNKY Zep was. Whenever folks ask me what type of music do I play, I always say "funk/rock. U know, like Parliament/Funkadelic, Zeppelin," They always cut me off with some shit like "Led Zeppelin??!!" And I always go "Yeah. Led Zeppelin." It's sad but most folks only listen with their eyes. So true. I have some bootlegs of them just fooling around in the studio from around '71-72 I believe, and there are some really funky jams on there. Stuff that never made it onto their albums. Stuff like "jam", "Sugar Mama", "Strawberry Jam", etc. Just rehearsal stuff, but so awesome.
And you have a cool mom.  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: Cloudbuster said: What isn't better than Hot Dog? Um, let's see...my least favorite Zeppelin song might be "Candy Store Rock" Well, it's a tie between "Hot Dog" and that one.Candy Store Rock is the worst Zep song. It's not even infectious in the annoying way Hot Dog was. The Crunge is an OK song, the groove is something else though. On another topic completely did you see the Untitled cut of Almost Famous? It turns a great movie into an essential one, and more Zep references too. | |
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WildheartXXX said: minneapolisgenius said: Um, let's see...my least favorite Zeppelin song might be "Candy Store Rock" Well, it's a tie between "Hot Dog" and that one.Candy Store Rock is the worst Zep song. It's not even infectious in the annoying way Hot Dog was. The Crunge is an OK song, the groove is something else though. On another topic completely did you see the Untitled cut of Almost Famous? It turns a great movie into an essential one, and more Zep references too. Not yet (about Almost Famous)
I plan on buying it next month when I get back to the U.S. I've heard about it though.
And I have to agree that Candy Store Rock is pretty bad. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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Yeah it's totally a tribute to James Brown, I didn't know John Bonham (sp?) was such a JB fan. | |
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minneapolisgenius said: blackguitaristz said: Yep. Val/Lori is dead on it! As for The Crunge, my mother digs this song! Hell, she digs quite a bit of Zeppelin, actually. I get a lot of my taste from her, which is cool. Anyway, this song is just proof on how FUNKY Zep was. Whenever folks ask me what type of music do I play, I always say "funk/rock. U know, like Parliament/Funkadelic, Zeppelin," They always cut me off with some shit like "Led Zeppelin??!!" And I always go "Yeah. Led Zeppelin." It's sad but most folks only listen with their eyes. So true. I have some bootlegs of them just fooling around in the studio from around '71-72 I believe, and there are some really funky jams on there. Stuff that never made it onto their albums. Stuff like "jam", "Sugar Mama", "Strawberry Jam", etc. Just rehearsal stuff, but so awesome.
And you have a cool mom. Thank u. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Cloudbuster said: Crap song. Great groove.
The groove is enough to make it great, but you're right. The song doesn't exactly stand alone if you were to sing it in a bar with your friends, or on open mic night with your acoustic guitar. Check this song out at:
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This is a great, great tune. My old rock band would rip into this cut (as a quick instrumental) and we would have the hardcore metalheads dancing like Rerun...Everyone knew this cut. Bonzo was definetly in the pocket on this jam. | |
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SPYZFAN1 said: This is a great, great tune. My old rock band would rip into this cut (as a quick instrumental) and we would have the hardcore metalheads dancing like Rerun...Everyone knew this cut. Bonzo was definetly in the pocket on this jam.
Dancing like Rerun!!! That's some funny shit, spyz. I get a hella vision of all these white cats pop locking and shit. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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SPYZFAN1 said: This is a great, great tune. My old rock band would rip into this cut (as a quick instrumental) and we would have the hardcore metalheads dancing like Rerun...Everyone knew this cut. Bonzo was definetly in the pocket on this jam.
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minneapolisgenius said: Cloudbuster said: What isn't better than Hot Dog? Um, let's see...my least favorite Zeppelin song might be "Candy Store Rock" Well, it's a tie between "Hot Dog" and that one.Candy Store Rock was a single, too. Bad move. | |
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Cloudbuster said: minneapolisgenius said: Um, let's see...my least favorite Zeppelin song might be "Candy Store Rock" Well, it's a tie between "Hot Dog" and that one.Candy Store Rock was a single, too. Bad move. Was it?
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minneapolisgenius said: Cloudbuster said: Candy Store Rock was a single, too. Bad move. Was it?
Yep! And the only one that didn't chart. | |
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Cloudbuster said: minneapolisgenius said: Was it?
Yep! And the only one that didn't chart. Gee, I wonder why? 
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nothing to special about this song | |
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minneapolisgenius said: Cloudbuster said: Yep! And the only one that didn't chart. Gee, I wonder why?
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