His birthday was yesterday...




http://www.prince.org/msg/8/165111
[Edited 10/27/05 14:48pm]

funkpill said:

I could give a shit about Snoop, but I'm diggin' the Sugarfoot hookup!

blackguitaristz said:

Yeah..That's always been the problem with the funk...

Too many dayumm rappers appear on their stuff....

Boots, George & Bernie should get together and make it happen...

funkpill said:

Yep and one of us should appear on axe. They need new blood. I dig Blackbyrd, but keep Hampton out in the woods someplace. With his Zappa sounding ass!

blackguitaristz said:

And please, no dayumm rappers of any kind.....

And they need to get rid of that violinist too....

Too much...

*Waits for another rumor about Prince appearing in there as One*

funkpill said:

Yep.

blackguitaristz said:

Nope , did you hear some trax on Boots his 1998 album ? . Funk & hiphop flowed all over there in a good mixture .

Y'all forgetting too easy that hiphoppers are giving much props & respect too Funk-pioneers as Bootsy , Dr. Funkenstein , etc . Through Dr.Dre's "Chronic" album a whole new generation was introduced to the classic-PFunk .

Have y'all 4got Digital Underground ? or most of all that George was already rapping on Chocolate City ( 1975 ) , Crush It ( 1980 ) , Get Dressed ( 1982 ) , Nubian Nut ( 1983 ) , etc...
The P-Funk is more involved with rap than y'all are ready to believe .

oh yes, I kind liked this. it had an assssslong list of guest artsits and musicians, even some popular German acts (like from the "Fantastischen Vier") made an appearance

http://www.djangomusic.co...mediatype=

Another great re-do i liked was "Wind Me Up " originally the MTUME classic "Tie Me Up .

yep. classy album! 80's soul hardly got better than this.

In L.A. yesterday taping the BET 25th Anniversary Special to air 10/1/05
Bootsy & Patti...

...lookin' good.

blackguitaristz said:

Nope , did you hear some trax on Boots his 1998 album ? . Funk & hiphop flowed all over there in a good mixture .

Y'all forgetting too easy that hiphoppers are giving much props & respect too Funk-pioneers as Bootsy , Dr. Funkenstein , etc . Through Dr.Dre's "Chronic" album a whole new generation was introduced to the classic-PFunk .

Have y'all 4got Digital Underground ? or most of all that George was already rapping on Chocolate City ( 1975 ) , Crush It ( 1980 ) , Get Dressed ( 1982 ) , Nubian Nut ( 1983 ) , etc...
The P-Funk is more involved with rap than y'all are ready to believe .

blackguitaristz said:

Nope , did you hear some trax on Boots his 1998 album ? . Funk & hiphop flowed all over there in a good mixture .

Y'all forgetting too easy that hiphoppers are giving much props & respect too Funk-pioneers as Bootsy , Dr. Funkenstein , etc . Through Dr.Dre's "Chronic" album a whole new generation was introduced to the classic-PFunk .

Have y'all 4got Digital Underground ? or most of all that George was already rapping on Chocolate City ( 1975 ) , Crush It ( 1980 ) , Get Dressed ( 1982 ) , Nubian Nut ( 1983 ) , etc...
The P-Funk is more involved with rap than y'all are ready to believe .

Big difference between trend setter and trend follower.....
Back then, George was shooting the yang.....
No rhymes, no hip-hop beats, just a pure groove with good monologue and funky chants...
Just saying that as true groove makers, they became followers instead of trend setters...

funkpill said:

Someone had 2 B the first 2 start widit ... U expect after so much decades of musical evolvement , that there can be invented a new style ( can U do that ? hard accomplishment to get there )

Start in this order...






You can't go wrong....
Then find these....


And of course.....

100MPH said:

oh yes, I kind liked this. it had an assssslong list of guest artsits and musicians, even some popular German acts (like from the "Fantastischen Vier") made an appearance


http://www.djangomusic.co...mediatype=

funkpill said : Okay...Your reason for posting this???

funkpill said : Now they are followers.....

Funkpill said :
I'm pretty much talking about George, Boots, and em'...
They were doing something back then, that nobody was doing...

At least George and Bootz don't feel that 2 many rappers use or appear on their stuff .


I don't see it that way . I feel the interaction between pioneers and followers who work with them is mutual . Followers get inspiration from the classics and vicaverca . Miles Davis explained how he worked that way too .


That is a priviledge for them to cherish and which not many new artist can do anymore these days , with all the musical developments ( Outkast being one of the exceptions ) . Jimmy Hendrix had that priveledge too .
[Edited 10/28/05 11:53am]

funkpill said:
Of course they don't mind rappers using their stuff...
They wanna get paid!!!!!...

Well , i'm not gonna work next Monday 4 nuttin' . Will U ?
Just another E-Z money-excuse people seem to use .
I putted HARD work to accomplish the skills i can do now , same as the P-Funk pioneers did with their stuff . Sampling is now just part of the game . Has been for quite a long time now ( since the end 70's : DJ Kool Herc / Afrika Bambaataa ) .

Whether U like it or not , the P-Funx copyright-worx at least now get paid off better then in the heydays . We all remember the sad business-development from Mr. Funkenstein's empire . Finally George received the publish-rights for 4 Funkadelic-albums .

Besides , this is what all these artists did their whole life .

But like Larry Blackmon explained the opposite too in an interview : "It's not always about the money "

( Which is a very big risk he and CAMEO took , especially with their last album "Sexy Sweet Thing " , which they made with the love for music , and from which Larry explained that you can not always expect to sell for a million bucks .)
[Edited 10/28/05 12:41pm]

Funkpill said :
No..Its not an excuse...
During that time when sampling was real big, P-Funk, along with James Brown, was not getting paid....AT ALL!!!
You wouldn't be too happy if someone was using your material, without your knowledge...

Funkpill said :
I agree with sampling being here to stay...
It's the quick new thang...

Funkpill said :
And it's not going anywhere ...
Like Brotha' Black said above..: Its about Musicianship..

It's tru that in the early hiphop-era sample-payments weren't quite dat thang .
But i was talking about the current situation .
Still , there slips any now and then an illegal sample through someones fingers , but the situation has become better .




Something that's been created in the 70's is not quite new anymore , i believe .
And you're just merely picking up one aspect of sampling ( which is the commercial-use in new songs ) and project all sampling as not being musical .
But the basic idea of sampling ( Like DJ KOOL HERC did in the 70's era ) was to create a new vibe during a session of spinning on the decks .
There was found a certain loop which had a strong break .
HERC would get two of the same records , which he kept on spinnin' back & forth rhythmically , creating that vibe on which the crowd would jam or where rappers would flow their rhymes over . This aspect is still very alive in the breakbeat-scene .




Even in Jazz , BRANFORD MARSALIS used a very skilled spinning-DJ for his BUCKSHOT LEFONQE-project . And BRANFORD knows about musicianship .
I saw a studio-session on tv where BRANFORD would combine all the sampling and jazz-elements with his band ( including singing-talent FRANK McCOMB ) .

I've seen a concert from the M-Base-experimenting saxophonist GREG OSBY , who combined his ultra-tight riffs with rap and sampling on stage .

There is this succesful band called ZUCO-103 , with very skilled musicians and a lead-female singer who combine Brasilian jazz & samba flava's with samples , played live on stage by a DJ who is actually part of the band.
[Edited 10/28/05 15:10pm]

100MPH said:

Good examples...
Like I said, sampling is here forever.....
But too much of the same thing, will get boring....
No matter what catagory of music.....