Pepina said:

hahahahaha, you got owned TurnItUp, being proven wrong definetly shut you up

i knew what pepina was saying is true, joe has bluey green eyes, i noticed that in heaps of pictrues of him, and i remeber distinctly what michael said and yes he was talking about paris's eyes as i saw the video and in all the tabloid magazines they all say paris andhave photos of paris being compared to joe, and anyway he couldnt have been talking about prince as prince has brown eyes.

but in saying that, i still dont think these are michaels biological children, but unlike everyone else i dont really see anything wrong with that, although i do hope he eventually has kids with his own sperm.
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TurnItUp said:

You can be black and not have brown eyes. My grandfather had blue eyes and my other grandfather had green eyes and so do I.

He has beautiful children, I think one day he'll let go of the whole scarf thing but I do understand why he makes them wear them.

I think the skepticism about the paternity of MJ's kids is extremely normal.

MJ has a long record for not exactly living in reality, as opposed to his own fantasy world.

He has HUGE issues about race, that even he won't acknowledge. MJ bleaches their hair! Gracious!

He's spent the better part of his adulthood ensuring that he doesn't look black. Knowing his family tree -- blue/green eyes notwithstanding -- he certainly didn't want his "kids" to be the color he's shunned. So, he adopted white kids. It makes perfect sense.

ThreadBare said:

i could say opposite things to what you said and it'd make perfect sense also. its all speculation, you dont know shit
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ThreadBare said




Is this really true?

hellomoto said:

Charming.
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VanitySixx said:

only prince, not the other two, which is still pretty bad i guess

Cheek said:

The Prince haha

hellomoto said:

Did MJ admit to this?

hellomoto said:

So what's fans' excuse for THAT one? I'm dying to know.

VanitySixx said:

no he didnt, i dont think hes ever been asked about it either, but its quite obvious. there are pictures of prince around the age of 2 with brown hair,and then suddenly his hair is white blonde, also there are pictures of prince with dark roots.


although the more i think about it i realise thats what happened to me too, i was born with black hair and a couple of months later it turned white blonde and the older i got the more dark roots came out, and my dad is half aboriginal. so the more i think about it, i really dont know if he does or not

Man, Davideye, you always have ur head up Madonna's ass all the time. American life was not a major media event. No one even talks about her anymore. A lot of people don't care about her anymore. Her time has passed. She'll keep on trying to do shocking things but people are already tired of her stupid antics. It's try to grow up Madonna and try to sell ur music without shocking anyone.

joe aint got blue eyes

VanitySixx said:

Jackson refuses to admit to more than two rhinoplasties or to lightening his skin. Do you expect him to own up to the dye jobs that were so obvious in the Bashir footage?

It really doesn't matter what color their skin is, their still his children. Skin color and sperm doesn't make you someone's father, taking care of them and loving them since they were born does.

MichaelsLight said:

I don't think anyone here disagrees. What's curious, however, is his obvious denials about their origins -- down to the dye jobs.

Very odd, wouldn't you agree? I mean, someone with such striking identity issues forcing them on his children... It happens all the time in other families in far subtler ways. But, Jackson's case -- not surprisingly -- is unbelievable.

So, everyone takes it as a fact that he does dye his son's hair? Why?

calldapplwondery83 said:

I'm just saying that if it is true, I wonder how the guy's fans could possibly work their way around it considering they defend 90% of everything about him like zombies and shout from the hilltops that he's proud of his black roots. Bleaching his son's hair doesn't NECESSARILY make him a racial self-loather but it sure as hell adds suspicion.

calldapplwondery83 said:

It was fairly obvious on the Bashir footage. The kid's roots were showing. Additionally, his hair that stiff, broom-bristled look of damaged hair.

But, hey, maybe they'd been playing a "Let's dye your hair blond" game and were letting his real color grow back in?

I don't understand the dying his son's hair thing, but its alot of things about him I just don't understand. Maybe its better that.

Ectoplasm said:

MichaelsLight said:

you might well be the most sensible mj fan out there....if more fans discussed matters like you did i bet the mj threads here would probably die down...

sosgemini said:

Many of us are sensible I think it's mostly the younger set who started to follow his career in the 90s when he was well into his weirdness. If that's your starting point for fandom...

sosgemini said:

Thanks!!!

ThreadBare said:

Well, someone stated that his makeup person or whoever made it known that MJ wears wigs so, I figured if they weren't secretive about that, than maybe the bleaching thing was made public too.

VanitySixx said:

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I wasn't talking about skin bleaching I was referring to hair bleaching. Everyone keeps stating that his son's hair is bleached.

VanitySixx said:

Oops, so sorry!

squiddyren said:

everyone makes excuses for there idols, its so stupid to point michael fans out, you go and attack madonna, madonna fans will come out and stick up for her, same with prince, same with every artist, dont try and act like michael fans are the only ones who do it