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PrintableTurnItUp said: prodigalfan said: 
But truthfully, the little girl looks Biracial to me. Her arms are tan brown, and her hair is that same sandy brown that most biracial kids get. I bet her hair gets blond high lights in the sun also. Not sure about the boy... but he sort of looks tan brown as well She does, but by her sperm donor, not by Michael. And I forgot to add before that is also bullshit about Michael saying Prince Michael's blue eyes come from Joe. I've seen Joe's eyes they are the same color as his complexion: hazel brown.  I didn't know his eyes were blue as well. My daughter's hair is brown/blond but eyes are brown.
Truthfully, I think those children are not MJ's biological and Debbie was a surrogate mother. Why else would she sign away rights to her flesh and blood. She could retain parental rights and live LARGE off of child support checks (if money was an issue). There is no other explanation for the way that woman walked away from her "own" flesh and blood.  "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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Why else would she sign away rights to her flesh and blood. She could retain parental rights and live LARGE off of child support checks (if money was an issue). There is no other explanation for the way that woman walked away from her "own" flesh and blood.
yeah, now she wants them back though. They are still fighting in court over them. Anyways here are some more pictures. 
I want Paris´ hair. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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A funny story I just read.
"One of the fans said "hi paris" to her, and she turned around to michael and went "how does he know my name"!!lol"  "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: Why else would she sign away rights to her flesh and blood. She could retain parental rights and live LARGE off of child support checks (if money was an issue). There is no other explanation for the way that woman walked away from her "own" flesh and blood.
yeah, now she wants them back though. They are still fighting in court over them. They do? I thought they'd come to terms without going to court. Does she want them back full-time? | |
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dag said:
Why else would she sign away rights to her flesh and blood. She could retain parental rights and live LARGE off of child support checks (if money was an issue). There is no other explanation for the way that woman walked away from her "own" flesh and blood. yeah, now she wants them back though. They are still fighting in court over them. They do? I thought they'd come to terms without going to court. Does she want them back full-time? don´t know any details. They re very private about it, but I´ve read recently that it´s still going on, but you never know. There are lots of false reports, so I don´t know if it´s true. But that´s what I heard. I think she wants some visitation rights. I am not sure though. BTW am I seeing things or does paris look a bit like Janet in the 2nd picture where Mike´s lifting her? "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: dag said:
Why else would she sign away rights to her flesh and blood. She could retain parental rights and live LARGE off of child support checks (if money was an issue). There is no other explanation for the way that woman walked away from her "own" flesh and blood. yeah, now she wants them back though. They are still fighting in court over them. They do? I thought they'd come to terms without going to court. Does she want them back full-time? don´t know any details. They re very private about it, but I´ve read recently that it´s still going on, but you never know. There are lots of false reports, so I don´t know if it´s true. But that´s what I heard. I think she wants some visitation rights. I am not sure though. BTW am I seeing things or does paris look a bit like Janet in the 2nd picture where Mike´s lifting her? Yes, you're seeing things. [Edited 10/13/05 11:43am] Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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DavidEye said: hellomoto said: ehhh, thats what i just said, about michael anyway. you keep doing that, repeating what i already said. oh well, about madonna, we'll just have to agree to disagree, i just dont hear much about madonna anywhere these days, i have to find out all my info on her on the net 
I'm not gonna argue with you about this,but ask anyone.Madonna is one of the most famous women on the planet.And you must be living under a rock if you don't hear about her these days.Whenever she releases a new album,it is a major media event. Exactly, which is opposite from Michael in that when he has a media blitz, it's always about a business or legal SCANDAL plaguing him or a family member; and as I recall, the only thing anyone remembers about the cd prior to his Greatest Hits thing was his embarrasing play-the-race-card-public-brou-ha-ha with then Sony chief Tommy Mottola...  | |
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dag said:
WTF? They gonna knock off a bank when they leave? Anyway, from what I'm able to see through all that mess, she looks pretty. | |
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MartyMcFly said: DavidEye said: Madonna is just as famous as Michael Jackson is.The difference is,she at least acts "normal" most of the time.She doesn't make her children hide their faces in public.
 And so a public snap catching her blinking her eyes means she's not acting normal? As least we haven't seen her dangling Rocco over the terrace banister of a hotel with a towel on his head... | |
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TurnItUp said:[quote] prodigalfan said: She does, but by her sperm donor, not by Michael. And I forgot to add before that is also bullshit about Michael saying Prince Michael's blue eyes come from Joe. I've seen Joe's eyes they are the same color as his complexion: hazel brown. No, what you're saying is bullshit. Michael was talking about Paris' eyes. Prince clearly has dark brown eyes. And have you seen Joe in person? Because I have and Mr. Jackson has green eyes that may appear blue depending on what he's wearing. They're adorable children, though. [Edited 10/13/05 16:05pm] | |
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When did MJ hire Ving Rhames
YO!!! His daughter is looking Blacker as she gets older and is MJ's nose getting wider from the other day.  His nose looks better in these pics.[Edited 10/13/05 16:05pm] | |
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You People making fun of his kids... stop it already... Michael... do you're thing... I still believe in you. Most of these people are just jealous of you. Just like how they are with Prince. I love you and Prince both... Keep doing your thing Michael. Paul G II
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calldapplwondery83 said: TurnItUp said: I can answer that. He always talked that shit about puttin' mask on their faces because he was afraid they would be kidnapped. BULLSHIT!!! He's got them wearing mask because he knows anybody with a good pair eyes can see that them kids is white and he doesn't want to answer the question why are your children 100% white and you're black? Why? Because I want my children to be what I wasn't and wish I was born as: LILY WHITE. There's your answer. And your answer is complete and utter nonsense. Why did he do photo sessions when his first child was born and anybody could see the kid's skin color? News-f-lash...! As a person who has been surrounded by interracial relationships for most of her life, I've found that bi-racial newborns generally come out of the womb very pale....but by the time they reach toddler stage their ethnicity from the black parent starts to settle in...you can detect traits from BOTH parents very easily. Now given that Michael has altered his appearance so drastically that there are virtually no traces of his former self left, all I can do is say, to the old-skoolers who REMEMBER what the Family Jackson USED to look like when we were kids watching them on TV, on THEIR show, the Osmond show, Sonny & Cher, and so on....if you can't see a trace of Joe, Katherine, Jermaine, Randy, or SOMEBODY on those kids' faces...you CAN NOT CONVINCE ME that those are Mikey's children ....
...which, of course is fine and well, but he should then at least stop trying to perpetrate a fraud like those are his blood children... | |
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paul0478 said: You People making fun of his kids... stop it already... Michael... do you're thing... I still believe in you. Most of these people are just jealous of you. Just like how they are with Prince. I love you and Prince both... Keep doing your thing Michael.
Honestly, I don't think people mean to make fun of the kids, rather than lament how their father presents them to the public...it's just rather freakish with the frenzy that seems to be intentionally surrounding these poor babies...I mean VEILS....??? For how many years does one keep a child veiled for appearances in public until it becomes "not normal"? I mean, what happens when the children are on the verge of adolescence...? Do they spend their middle school years, high school years, or college years VEILED??? There comes a point, I think, when it becomes reflective on the parent and their sense of paranoia when they INSIST on creating a false sense of mystery around their children due to a perceived threat... | |
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I think I make this post in every single thread about MJ's children, but here it goes again...
My dad is half black (Sudanese! Not mixed American black) and half Arab (his mother was beige/brown-skinned, as dark as a goodly amount of African-Americans) and he turned out light as all get out. Damn near white. And yes, that is his daddy. He married my Sicilian mother and I turned out sort of swarthy. Genes are tricky little motherfuckers. I would never, ever be able to look at MJ's children and rule out his paternity and then look at myself in the mirror. I believe they're his. His daughter's hair (when not straightened  ) looks just like mine (when not straightened ) and back when I saw Prince and Paris in 2001, they weren't white-skinned (although, Mike, uh...bleaching Prince's hair isn't doing you any favors...), Prince was about my color, Paris was probably a half a shade darker. Leave them be - they're well taken care of. If you're going to complain about something, complain about the fact that the scarves don't match their outfits. | |
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for the record..thats not that girls skin tone..she is wearing a vale...
she is as white as calesta flockhart..that aint mj's kid... Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: for the record..thats not that girls skin tone..she is wearing a vale...
she is as white as calesta flockhart..that aint mj's kid... i dont think it is either, of course theres a chance its his, but thats really low. i just only hope one day in the future michael actually has a kid his own flesh and blood, i think that would be awesome to see, another little mj [Edited 10/14/05 0:42am] | |
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ok, here´s my "fanatical" opinion. I just don´t understand why the kids wouldn´t be his. Paris definately looks like her mother, Prince as well, so Debbi definately is their biological mother. And since MJ always wanted kids, why not use his own sperm - if she truly was inseminated artificially. Again, I don´t understand why they would do it artificially since they risked that it would be revealed to press that way much more easily. Just doesn´t make sence. And why would MJ wanna say that for example Blankets mother is black if it wasn´t true when the kid is allegedly light as well. But, of course ,Mj is in the publics eyes stupid and crazy enough that they believe that he would wanna lie even in this craziest - stupidest way. Do you really believe guys that MJ is that stupid? Why would he wanna lie for example that Blanket´s mother is black? What could he possibly gain from this claim? "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: Just doesn´t make sence.
Lots of things don't make "sence"  Now give it up - them kids WHITE 
. [Edited 10/14/05 2:52am]   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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dag said: ok, here´s my "fanatical" opinion. I just don´t understand why the kids wouldn´t be his. Paris definately looks like her mother, Prince as well, so Debbi definately is their biological mother. And since MJ always wanted kids, why not use his own sperm - if she truly was inseminated artificially. Again, I don´t understand why they would do it artificially since they risked that it would be revealed to press that way much more easily. Just doesn´t make sence. And why would MJ wanna say that for example Blankets mother is black if it wasn´t true when the kid is allegedly light as well. But, of course ,Mj is in the publics eyes stupid and crazy enough that they believe that he would wanna lie even in this craziest - stupidest way. Do you really believe guys that MJ is that stupid? Why would he wanna lie for example that Blanket´s mother is black? What could he possibly gain from this claim?
i wonder if the continued use of hormones rendered his sperm null and void. Space for sale... | |
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Yeah. What Cloudy said.
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i thought debbie and him tried to get pregnant and she had a miscarriage, and he wanted a kid straight away so they must of just got a sperm donor. dont ask me where i got that from. | |
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i thought debbie and him tried to get pregnant and she had a miscarriage, and he wanted a kid straight away so they must of just got a sperm donor. dont ask me where i got that from.
yeah, I heard something like that. Are you saying though that they used someone else´s sperm? Why? I think there was a interview with Debbie in some tabloid (still don´t know if it was real or not, but since there was name of another child stated which fitted eventually with Paris, so it could have been real) where she said that she "thought she couldn´t bear a child" which made it sound to me as if SHE was the problem. But I don´t know. Anyways as for that artifucial insemination story, I think it might have came right from MJ himself to confuse the people. We all know how he´s trying to hide everything from public (Blanket he´s been hiding till that infamous incident etc.), I think that was a story they made up for Debbie to tell her friends once the pregnancy would be obvious and she of course couldn´t say who´s the real father so they figured, she could say she was artificially antiseminated and doesn´t know the father and than when ppl found out it was Michael jackson, the whole world found out about it with that artificial insemination story attached. That´s kinda how it feels to me. I can see Mike doing that. But I might be dead wrong of course. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Seems like just yesterday they were little napkins. Now they've grown into beautiful scarves.. | |
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None of his children are white skinned (especially not Paris), just like Michael isn't nearly as pale in person as he is on TV and in pictures. Everybody is lighter if you stick a flash up in their face.
The young Ms Jackson doesn't look so light 'n bright here:  [Edited 10/14/05 12:05pm] | |
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Pepina said:[quote] TurnItUp said: prodigalfan said: She does, but by her sperm donor, not by Michael. And I forgot to add before that is also bullshit about Michael saying Prince Michael's blue eyes come from Joe. I've seen Joe's eyes they are the same color as his complexion: hazel brown. They're adorable children, though. [Edited 10/13/05 16:05pm] No, what you're saying is bullshit. Michael was talking about Paris' eyes. Prince clearly has dark brown eyes. And have you seen Joe in person? Because I have and Mr. Jackson has green eyes that may appear blue depending on what he's wearing. No what you're saying is 10 times BULLSHIT because on that special he was talking about Prince Michael is oldest, NOT PARIS. He said people think he gets his blue eyes from Debbie, but my father has blue eyes. BULL TO THE SHIT!! Blue Green, they ain't either one. If you seen any green, them is green contact lenses or green alcohol he's drinking and sounds like you been drinkin' because Michael and company is trying to be something they're not and that's NOT BLACK! | |
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dag said: ok, here´s my "fanatical" opinion. I just don´t understand why the kids wouldn´t be his. Paris definately looks like her mother, Prince as well, so Debbi definately is their biological mother. And since MJ always wanted kids, why not use his own sperm - if she truly was inseminated artificially. Again, I don´t understand why they would do it artificially since they risked that it would be revealed to press that way much more easily. Just doesn´t make sence. And why would MJ wanna say that for example Blankets mother is black if it wasn´t true when the kid is allegedly light as well. But, of course ,Mj is in the publics eyes stupid and crazy enough that they believe that he would wanna lie even in this craziest - stupidest way. Do you really believe guys that MJ is that stupid? Why would he wanna lie for example that Blanket´s mother is black? What could he possibly gain from this claim?
Bullshit. None of them kids don't look nothing like his parents or anybody in that family. You know good and damn well I'm right. He's got white/mixed kids because he wanted to be born white. He wants he kids to live the American dream from birth to the rest of their lives. | |
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Turn It Up Said said: :No what you're saying is 10 times BULLSHIT because on that special he was talking about Prince Michael is oldest, NOT PARIS. He said people think he gets his blue eyes from Debbie, but my father has blue eyes. BULL TO THE SHIT!! Blue Green, they ain't either one. If you seen any green, them is green contact lenses or green alcohol he's drinking and sounds like you been drinkin' because Michael and company is trying to be something they're not and that's NOT BLACK!
Do I have to go get a damn transcript? Jackson: "Black people were called coloured people because we come in all
colours from very white - as white as my hand - to very dark, as dark as your shirt." "My father has blue eyes. And when they see Paris, they always say Debbie but that could be my father's genes, you know ..." http://www.mjshouse.com/s...nscript.wm He was talking about PARIS. Joe has always had blue/green eyes. Every damn book about Michael (even negative ones!) mention Joe's green eyes. 
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