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Reply #60 posted 10/10/05 11:06pm

jasonstar

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I would disguise my kids too if I were him, I think for once he's made a smart decision. It's sad but, I'm sure if people saw what they looked like their images would be constantly scrutinized by the entire world and people would be making a great deal of accusations about them. The kids shouldn't have to suffer for his fame and choices anymore than they already are.



I agreee 1000%... biggrin

I am a HUGE Michael fan and supporter. I realize though that some of his choices aren't the smartest. That being said, if he didn't do this, his kids would get teased and hurt and that just isn't right. If you want to diss Michael for his appearance that is one thing but people would do that to his kids, and doing that to a child is just wrong and cruel. Good going Michael. thumbs up!
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Reply #61 posted 10/11/05 5:09am

Rhondab

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paisleypark4 said:




Not that, but he IS almost a little too famous to not have his children's identities covered up..I don't blame him. U know what a criminal would do if he knew their faces and kidnapped them for ransom??? DO U KNOW?



Lourdes and Rocco are in the paper all the time. They each have 2 bodygaurds and a nanny assigned to them. They seem to do fine. The only time they are ever in the paper though is when they are with Madonna or their fathers. They also go to school. Something that Michael has said his kids won't be going to. How normal is that? I don't think his having kids is because he wants a family as much as it's someone to love him unconditionally. I wonder what will happen will they start to rebel. I think it's sad they have to walk around all covered up. Is that what they are going to do when they are adults? How long are they going to be covered up? How can they relate to other people who don't have that experience? And I agree that the frenzy around Michael is made up. I think normally you'd get a couple photogs and a few fans following him, but all this other extra stuff is generated by MJ. I don't feel sorry for his freak show image, because his camp has admitted to creating the early stories. Now he plays the victim to how evil the press is to him.




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I don't think mj's kids would get kidnapped or anything else. I think it makes the press MORE interested in what the kids are doing or look like covering them up. Covering them is about mj...and not about the kids. Its attention.

If you saw some kids walking down the street with a sheet over their heads...would you turn away or look even harder.....
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Reply #62 posted 10/11/05 5:13am

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U do realize the crowd thought it was prince neutral

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Reply #63 posted 10/11/05 5:28am

Novabreaker

Disguising his kids when he is with them is a very smart move and the right decision. That way they are allowed to go outside without notice when Michael isn't with them. Michael doesn't make that many public appearances with them, so wearing a scarf over your head some 5 times a year is NOT going to traumatize them for life.

Stop the fucking bitching.
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Reply #64 posted 10/11/05 5:31am

MartyMcFly

Novabreaker said:

Disguising his kids when he is with them is a very smart move and the right decision. That way they are allowed to go outside without notice when Michael isn't with them. Michael doesn't make that many public appearances with them, so wearing a scarf over your head some 5 times a year is NOT going to traumatize them for life.

Stop the fucking bitching.



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Reply #65 posted 10/11/05 5:31am

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Novabreaker said:

Stop the fucking bitching.


It's an MJ thread. Folk can't help themselves.

They all need a fucking tea-break.
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Reply #66 posted 10/11/05 5:44am

DavidEye

hellomoto said:

micahel jackson has a star quality that no one else has. when madonna goes out shes not mobbed for a couple of different things, first of all she goes out all the time, its not like its a rare occurance as it is with michael. also madonna just looks like a normal person on the street normal clothes nad everythnig, she doesnt stand out, no one takes notice of her, whereas michael its hard to miss him. also madonnas not as famous as she once was, she may have once been as famous as michael, but not anymore. also michaels fanbase are much more determined and frenziable (if thats even a word). and also i go on a madonna forum and there are people there that do the exact same thing that michael fans do, just not as many



Madonna is just as famous as Michael Jackson is.The difference is,she at least acts "normal" most of the time.She doesn't make her children hide their faces in public.
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Reply #67 posted 10/11/05 6:04am

MartyMcFly

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Madonna is just as famous as Michael Jackson is.The difference is,she at least acts "normal" most of the time.She doesn't make her children hide their faces in public.



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Reply #68 posted 10/11/05 6:15am

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Perhaps a small part of the difference between MJ and other popular celebs being able to walk down the street is respect, image and how they project themselves. Someone once described the relationship between MJ and his fans as 'dysfunctional co-dependency'. smile They may be right.
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Reply #69 posted 10/11/05 8:24am

calldapplwonde
ry83

TurnItUp said:

Giselle said:

WHY DOES HE HAVE THEM STILL WEARING THOSE MASK? THAT'S RIDICULOUS! THEY'RE JUST KIDS...I'M SURE THEY HAVE HARD TIMES BREATHING.




LOOK MIKE...JUST BECAUSE YOU MESSED UP YOUR FACE,IT DOSENT MEAN YOU HAVE TO GO AND HIDE YOUR KIDS FACE TOO


I can answer that. He always talked that shit about puttin' mask on their faces because he was afraid they would be kidnapped. BULLSHIT!!! He's got them wearing mask because he knows anybody with a good pair eyes can see that them kids is white and he doesn't want to answer the question why are your children 100% white and you're black? Why? Because I want my children to be what I wasn't and wish I was born as: LILY WHITE.

There's your answer.


And your answer is complete and utter nonsense. Why did he do photo sessions when his first child was born and anybody could see the kid's skin color?
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Reply #70 posted 10/11/05 1:21pm

TurnItUp

calldapplwondery83 said:

TurnItUp said:



I can answer that. He always talked that shit about puttin' mask on their faces because he was afraid they would be kidnapped. BULLSHIT!!! He's got them wearing mask because he knows anybody with a good pair eyes can see that them kids is white and he doesn't want to answer the question why are your children 100% white and you're black? Why? Because I want my children to be what I wasn't and wish I was born as: LILY WHITE.

There's your answer.


And your answer is complete and utter nonsense. Why did he do photo sessions when his first child was born and anybody could see the kid's skin color?


Andy your comment is complete and utter bullshit! When he did photos with his Prince Michael I it was evident that the child was 100% and it was evident that Michael and Debbie went to a sperm bank with a perfect description of the biological father: WHITE. Bam Debbie gets artificially inseminated and here comes Prince Michael I, the same thing with Paris and as far as Blanket goes, Blanket mother is probably and young WHITE teen or early 20's mother who didn't want to be a mother and Michael made a deal with her to adopt/pay her inexchange for the child she didn't want. All that bullshit that Blanket's mother's black, get the hell on with that I saw the child's legs and part of his face during the shot when he was being dangled where the blanket flew up and I could see him clear through that scarf on the ABC special. That child was light-skinned alright. Light-skinned white.

You personally need to get on with the bullshit! Bottom line Michael and Debbie are just like 2 lesbians where one can't conceive and she has her partner go get impregnated because she can't produce because she's not a MAN!
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Reply #71 posted 10/11/05 1:53pm

calldapplwonde
ry83

I think you did not get what I meant at all.
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Reply #72 posted 10/11/05 1:55pm

TurnItUp

calldapplwondery83 said:

I think you did not get what I meant at all.


No I didn't, what did you mean?
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Reply #73 posted 10/11/05 2:17pm

calldapplwonde
ry83

I meant to say that, while you said he hides his children because he doesn't want people to ask why they are white, he did in fact show his son to everyone himself back then. Why would he do a photo shoot if he didn't want people to know that his children are white?

Anyway, my "bullshit" comment was a little harsh, sorry. It's just that everyone and their mama seems to have insider knowledge of MJ.
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Reply #74 posted 10/11/05 2:21pm

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paisleypark4 said:

Ectoplasm said:

Some people should just not be allowed to have children rolleyes



Not that, but he IS almost a little too famous to not have his children's identities covered up..I don't blame him. U know what a criminal would do if he knew their faces and kidnapped them for ransom??? DO U KNOW?


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Reply #75 posted 10/11/05 2:28pm

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i wonder if mj is impotent due to all the hormones he took/takes...


hmm
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Reply #76 posted 10/12/05 12:54am

hellomoto

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hellomoto said:

micahel jackson has a star quality that no one else has. when madonna goes out shes not mobbed for a couple of different things, first of all she goes out all the time, its not like its a rare occurance as it is with michael. also madonna just looks like a normal person on the street normal clothes nad everythnig, she doesnt stand out, no one takes notice of her, whereas michael its hard to miss him. also madonnas not as famous as she once was, she may have once been as famous as michael, but not anymore. also michaels fanbase are much more determined and frenziable (if thats even a word). and also i go on a madonna forum and there are people there that do the exact same thing that michael fans do, just not as many



Madonna is just as famous as Michael Jackson is.The difference is,she at least acts "normal" most of the time.She doesn't make her children hide their faces in public.

i agree on the last bit as thats what i said in my orignal post. but no, madonna isnt as famous as she once was or as famous as michael, shes not really talked about anymore, althoigh that could change with this new album. michael still has his level of fame, just not for the same reasons as before
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Reply #77 posted 10/12/05 1:02am

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haha maybe they wanted to wear that shit. they didnt want people all in their shit that day. smile

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Reply #78 posted 10/12/05 1:03am

DavidEye

hellomoto said:

DavidEye said:




Madonna is just as famous as Michael Jackson is.The difference is,she at least acts "normal" most of the time.She doesn't make her children hide their faces in public.

i agree on the last bit as thats what i said in my orignal post. but no, madonna isnt as famous as she once was or as famous as michael, shes not really talked about anymore, althoigh that could change with this new album. michael still has his level of fame, just not for the same reasons as before



Nope,she is just as famous as MJ and she is talked about everywhere.But unlike MJ,she is discussed because of her music and soldout tours.Yes,MJ is still very famous,but sadly,not for his music anymore.
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Reply #79 posted 10/12/05 1:19am

hellomoto

DavidEye said:

hellomoto said:


i agree on the last bit as thats what i said in my orignal post. but no, madonna isnt as famous as she once was or as famous as michael, shes not really talked about anymore, althoigh that could change with this new album. michael still has his level of fame, just not for the same reasons as before



Nope,she is just as famous as MJ and she is talked about everywhere.But unlike MJ,she is discussed because of her music and soldout tours.Yes,MJ is still very famous,but sadly,not for his music anymore.

ehhh, thats what i just said, about michael anyway. you keep doing that, repeating what i already said. oh well, about madonna, we'll just have to agree to disagree, i just dont hear much about madonna anywhere these days, i have to find out all my info on her on the net
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Reply #80 posted 10/12/05 2:21am

DavidEye

hellomoto said:

DavidEye said:




Nope,she is just as famous as MJ and she is talked about everywhere.But unlike MJ,she is discussed because of her music and soldout tours.Yes,MJ is still very famous,but sadly,not for his music anymore.

ehhh, thats what i just said, about michael anyway. you keep doing that, repeating what i already said. oh well, about madonna, we'll just have to agree to disagree, i just dont hear much about madonna anywhere these days, i have to find out all my info on her on the net


rolleyes

I'm not gonna argue with you about this,but ask anyone.Madonna is one of the most famous women on the planet.And you must be living under a rock if you don't hear about her these days.Whenever she releases a new album,it is a major media event.
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Reply #81 posted 10/12/05 2:45am

MartyMcFly

Christopher said:

haha maybe they wanted to wear that shit. they didnt want people all in their shit that day. smile

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Shit yeah!


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Reply #82 posted 10/12/05 4:50am

Rhondab

hellomoto said:

DavidEye said:




Nope,she is just as famous as MJ and she is talked about everywhere.But unlike MJ,she is discussed because of her music and soldout tours.Yes,MJ is still very famous,but sadly,not for his music anymore.

ehhh, thats what i just said, about michael anyway. you keep doing that, repeating what i already said. oh well, about madonna, we'll just have to agree to disagree, i just dont hear much about madonna anywhere these days, i have to find out all my info on her on the net



may she needs to go be accused of child molestation and then you would hear more about her...rolleyes MJ is now infamous....

Madonna is EXTREMELY famous, popular or whatever....hell even I own some of her music...lol and i think she is raising her children in a very balanced way. She was just all over tv this summer for the new release of her childrens book.

its a dumb ass argument.....
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Reply #83 posted 10/12/05 5:46am

MartyMcFly

Rhondab said:

i think she is raising her children in a very balanced way. She was just all over tv this summer for the new release of her childrens book.




hmmm
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Reply #84 posted 10/12/05 5:50am

Rhondab

MartyMcFly said:

Rhondab said:

i think she is raising her children in a very balanced way. She was just all over tv this summer for the new release of her childrens book.




hmmm



ok...as balanced as possible..is that better..lol
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Reply #85 posted 10/12/05 6:29am

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How did he get those white kids? confused

whistling

But truthfully, the little girl looks Biracial to me. Her arms are tan brown, and her hair is that same sandy brown that most biracial kids get. I bet her hair gets blond high lights in the sun also.

Not sure about the boy... but he sort of looks tan brown as well
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Reply #86 posted 10/12/05 6:53am

DavidEye

MartyMcFly said:

Rhondab said:

i think she is raising her children in a very balanced way. She was just all over tv this summer for the new release of her childrens book.



hmmm



well,let's see...


Madonna has never dangled her baby outside a hotel balcony

Madonna doesn't make her children wear silly masks when they are out in public

Madonna does not exclude her childen's fathers from being a part of their lives (isn't MJ's ex-wife suing him for visitation rights?)


Madonna's children are hers.They weren't "bought".


lol now you tell me....whose kids have a more stable environment?
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Reply #87 posted 10/12/05 7:04am

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Just the fact that Madonna's kids go to school gives them some sort of normalcy and interaction with life beyond celebrity culture.
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Reply #88 posted 10/12/05 8:06am

TurnItUp

calldapplwondery83 said:

I meant to say that, while you said he hides his children because he doesn't want people to ask why they are white, he did in fact show his son to everyone himself back then. Why would he do a photo shoot if he didn't want people to know that his children are white?

Anyway, my "bullshit" comment was a little harsh, sorry. It's just that everyone and their mama seems to have insider knowledge of MJ.


I remember the photoshoot and the picture of him holding Prince Michael with Debbie. I think he was the proud parent and thought he could pull that stuff off about the kid being biologically his and plus maybe he didn't think or care at the time that people would critize him about his kids being white. People started asking many questions especially when Prince Michael's hair turned blond because it was black when he was a baby. In comes the scarfs, cover the children's faces up so people can stop asking questions yu doesn't want to tell the true answer to and that is the children are his by name, but not biolgically.

I apologize if I was a little harsh too.
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Reply #89 posted 10/12/05 8:11am

TurnItUp

prodigalfan said:

MikeMatronik said:

How did he get those white kids? confused

whistling

But truthfully, the little girl looks Biracial to me. Her arms are tan brown, and her hair is that same sandy brown that most biracial kids get. I bet her hair gets blond high lights in the sun also.

Not sure about the boy... but he sort of looks tan brown as well


She does, but by her sperm donor, not by Michael. And I forgot to add before that is also bullshit about Michael saying Prince Michael's blue eyes come from Joe. I've seen Joe's eyes they are the same color as his complexion: hazel brown.
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