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PrintableSo much for an open marriage. "The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page | |
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thesexofit said: I like to think he and la reid did pebbles.
Proberly did, and kayrn white too Hell, while ya at it, I hope they banged Dame from Damien Dame and ALL of TLC! Including the original member!  "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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p3r1i9nce said: I find it more than interesting that most of the Hollywood celebrity marriages seem to be floundering yet the marriage that most said would never last more than six months, Whitney and Bobby, is still going strong! Sometimes life ain't fair, but it is interesting.
You call THAT a marriage?  "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: ThreadBare said: Dang, that's too bad. Tracy Edmonds really worked really hard to make his career work. Granted, Face was established when they met, but she bought into the whole Yab Yum deal production company and worked. Shucks, Face might owe her more than half, to be fair.
Dang, when Face gets divorced, that makes you want to think twice about the whole marriage thing, for real.  Please, Face didn't need her for HIS career, it was the other way around. He gave her YabYum to shut her up about wanting to be involved with LaFace. This chick was a video ho basically before video hoes had a true name. She owes ALL her shit to Face. Man, I'm not saying he needed her for his career. I'm saying that she bought into his operation, believed enough in what he was doing to him build it. I'm probably a hopeless romantic, but the notion of building a business with one's wife appeals to me. So that's what I'm talking about. Secondly, it's a shame when people assume that a woman, a "video hoe" as you call her, doesn't have anything else going for her -- just because she was in a video. I'd suggest you compare Tracy's role in "My Kind of Girl" with the sorts of images on BET & MTV, also, before you label her that. Face did classy videos, particularly in the early 1990s. It takes business acumen to run the sorts of projects she did and, by the looks of it, will continue to do. That's all I'm saying. | |
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ThreadBare said: TheCrucialExperience said: Please, Face didn't need her for HIS career, it was the other way around. He gave her YabYum to shut her up about wanting to be involved with LaFace. This chick was a video ho basically before video hoes had a true name. She owes ALL her shit to Face. Man, I'm not saying he needed her for his career. I'm saying that she bought into his operation, believed enough in what he was doing to him build it. I'm probably a hopeless romantic, but the notion of building a business with one's wife appeals to me. So that's what I'm talking about. Secondly, it's a shame when people assume that a woman, a "video hoe" as you call her, doesn't have anything else going for her -- just because she was in a video. I'd suggest you compare Tracy's role in "My Kind of Girl" with the sorts of images on BET & MTV, also, before you label her that. Face did classy videos, particularly in the early 1990s. It takes business acumen to run the sorts of projects she did and, by the looks of it, will continue to do. That's all I'm saying.  Tracy wasn't a video hoe just because she was in a video...crucial...i'm wondering about you sir....didn't I say something to you about calling someone a bitch a few weeks ago.....
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Babyface married a video ho. There is hope for all you video hoes! 
But a smart video ho she is! Still a video ho, tho | |
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A PAID groupie!!! | |
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Lately it seems like any woman who's an extra in a video falls under the category of video ho.  Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: Lately it seems like any woman who's an extra in a video falls under the category of video ho.
you're a babyface thread ho. | |
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ThreadBare said: TheCrucialExperience said: Please, Face didn't need her for HIS career, it was the other way around. He gave her YabYum to shut her up about wanting to be involved with LaFace. This chick was a video ho basically before video hoes had a true name. She owes ALL her shit to Face. Man, I'm not saying he needed her for his career. I'm saying that she bought into his operation, believed enough in what he was doing to him build it. I'm probably a hopeless romantic, but the notion of building a business with one's wife appeals to me. So that's what I'm talking about. Secondly, it's a shame when people assume that a woman, a "video hoe" as you call her, doesn't have anything else going for her -- just because she was in a video. I'd suggest you compare Tracy's role in "My Kind of Girl" with the sorts of images on BET & MTV, also, before you label her that. Face did classy videos, particularly in the early 1990s. It takes business acumen to run the sorts of projects she did and, by the looks of it, will continue to do. That's all I'm saying. Well OF COURSE she bought into his opertaion - HE'S BABYFACE! LOL! What was she supposed to do?: TRACY - "Baby, would you ever consider law school? This little music thing you have here isn't what I see "my" man doing the rest of his life. No security." It's easy to buy into someone's career after it's successful, sheesh. And when I called her a "video ho" I didn't mean to call her a HO, just that's what they would have called her had the phrase been penned back then. And again, I don't see how she's so great in running a business when everything she's been successful in, Face had a hand in. "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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Rhondab said: ThreadBare said: Man, I'm not saying he needed her for his career. I'm saying that she bought into his operation, believed enough in what he was doing to him build it. I'm probably a hopeless romantic, but the notion of building a business with one's wife appeals to me. So that's what I'm talking about. Secondly, it's a shame when people assume that a woman, a "video hoe" as you call her, doesn't have anything else going for her -- just because she was in a video. I'd suggest you compare Tracy's role in "My Kind of Girl" with the sorts of images on BET & MTV, also, before you label her that. Face did classy videos, particularly in the early 1990s. It takes business acumen to run the sorts of projects she did and, by the looks of it, will continue to do. That's all I'm saying. Tracy wasn't a video hoe just because she was in a video...crucial...i'm wondering about you sir....didn't I say something to you about calling someone a bitch a few weeks ago.....
stop it!!! No, the term is no longer a negative term as it is more so stating women that run from video to video audition. And I didn't coin the phrase video ho LOL! And I used the term "Bitch" that time as to how women call each other that once that green eyed monster in them shows up, remember? 
Now go get naked so daddy can come and give you a hot oil massage "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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KatSkrizzle said: Babyface married a video ho. There is hope for all you video hoes!
But a smart video ho she is! Still a video ho, tho  "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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CinisterCee said: JackieBlue said: Lately it seems like any woman who's an extra in a video falls under the category of video ho.
you're a babyface thread ho.  Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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CinisterCee said: Chick was crazy, gave her crazy space
What is it the "Whip Appeal", or my Babyface?  Hell ya! Clipse! | |
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dreamfactory313 said: CinisterCee said: Chick was crazy, gave her crazy space
What is it the "Whip Appeal", or my Babyface? Hell ya! Clipse! | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: ThreadBare said: Dang, that's too bad. Tracy Edmonds really worked really hard to make his career work. Granted, Face was established when they met, but she bought into the whole Yab Yum deal production company and worked. Shucks, Face might owe her more than half, to be fair.
Dang, when Face gets divorced, that makes you want to think twice about the whole marriage thing, for real. Please, Face didn't need her for HIS career, it was the other way around. He gave her YabYum to shut her up about wanting to be involved with LaFace. This chick was a video ho basically before video hoes had a true name. She owes ALL her shit to Face. CORRECTION: In the 80's, they were called Video Vixens, not Video Hoes! | |
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p3r1i9nce said: I find it more than interesting that most of the Hollywood celebrity marriages seem to be floundering yet the marriage that most said would never last more than six months, Whitney and Bobby, is still going strong! Sometimes life ain't fair, but it is interesting.
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TonyVanDam said: TheCrucialExperience said: Please, Face didn't need her for HIS career, it was the other way around. He gave her YabYum to shut her up about wanting to be involved with LaFace. This chick was a video ho basically before video hoes had a true name. She owes ALL her shit to Face. CORRECTION: In the 80's, they were called Video Vixens, not Video Hoes! I stand so damn corrected! You are DEAD RIGHT on that! They DID actually try and give them some sort of "dignity" to dancing around half naked back then. "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: TonyVanDam said: CORRECTION: In the 80's, they were called Video Vixens, not Video Hoes! I stand so damn corrected! You are DEAD RIGHT on that! They DID actually try and give them some sort of "dignity" to dancing around half naked back then. And lets not forget about Bobbie Brown (The Original Queen of ALL video vixens/hoes). She was the sexy blond in the Warrent video, Cherry Pie. | |
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TonyVanDam said: TheCrucialExperience said: I stand so damn corrected! You are DEAD RIGHT on that! They DID actually try and give them some sort of "dignity" to dancing around half naked back then. And lets not forget about Bobbie Brown (The Original Queen of ALL video vixens/hoes). She was the sexy blond in the Warrent video, Cherry Pie. Tru! "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: VanitySixx said: AND HER MAMA! Her mother was the one who was pushing her to persue a relationship with Babyface in the beginning. Damn shame aint it? They met on his video for Whip Appeal and she whipped it on him! ....and you know this information from whom....? just curious  | |
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KatSkrizzle said: A PAID groupie!!!
what makes you think so? | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: ThreadBare said: Man, I'm not saying he needed her for his career. I'm saying that she bought into his operation, believed enough in what he was doing to him build it. I'm probably a hopeless romantic, but the notion of building a business with one's wife appeals to me. So that's what I'm talking about. Secondly, it's a shame when people assume that a woman, a "video hoe" as you call her, doesn't have anything else going for her -- just because she was in a video. I'd suggest you compare Tracy's role in "My Kind of Girl" with the sorts of images on BET & MTV, also, before you label her that. Face did classy videos, particularly in the early 1990s. It takes business acumen to run the sorts of projects she did and, by the looks of it, will continue to do. That's all I'm saying. Well OF COURSE she bought into his opertaion - HE'S BABYFACE! LOL! What was she supposed to do?: TRACY - "Baby, would you ever consider law school? This little music thing you have here isn't what I see "my" man doing the rest of his life. No security." It's easy to buy into someone's career after it's successful, sheesh. And when I called her a "video ho" I didn't mean to call her a HO, just that's what they would have called her had the phrase been penned back then. And again, I don't see how she's so great in running a business when everything she's been successful in, Face had a hand in. What is this? The friggin' affirmative action debate of the sexes ??? Contrary to popular belief, husbands and wives can have connected business interests without the husband necessarily running the show: I have best friends from childhood who have made their mark in Hollywood on several cable series, and now through LION'S GATE FILMS as screenwriters and producers thanks to TRACY EDMONDS financial and contractual support, and her back-up against the old school white boy show biz establishment. Though it may not mean much to a lot of you, at least homegirl did have a smidgin' of corporate experience working for her parents' insurance firm handling large commercial clients so that at the very least, she would have skills to aid herself as a producer and properly run a company...I am also familiar with this on a smaller level, having also gone that route and then eventually being a wee young-un producing shoots and commercials, while being married to an extraordinary fashion photographer who basically had NOTHING to do with the day to day operation of the production company that we shared... ...sometimes I feel as if a man in the glamour profession doesn't marry a bio-chemist who graduated from Bryn Mawr, people always assume that he has married someone who isn't capable of being his equal...it's pretty unfair, actually...  | |
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Ottensen said: TheCrucialExperience said: Damn shame aint it? They met on his video for Whip Appeal and she whipped it on him! ....and you know this information from whom....? just curious Cuz they met on the set of Whip Appeal. "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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Ottensen said: TheCrucialExperience said: Well OF COURSE she bought into his opertaion - HE'S BABYFACE! LOL! What was she supposed to do?: TRACY - "Baby, would you ever consider law school? This little music thing you have here isn't what I see "my" man doing the rest of his life. No security." It's easy to buy into someone's career after it's successful, sheesh. And when I called her a "video ho" I didn't mean to call her a HO, just that's what they would have called her had the phrase been penned back then. And again, I don't see how she's so great in running a business when everything she's been successful in, Face had a hand in. What is this? The friggin' affirmative action debate of the sexes ??? Contrary to popular belief, husbands and wives can have connected business interests without the husband necessarily running the show: I have best friends from childhood who have made their mark in Hollywood on several cable series, and now through LION'S GATE FILMS as screenwriters and producers thanks to TRACY EDMONDS financial and contractual support, and her back-up against the old school white boy show biz establishment. Though it may not mean much to a lot of you, at least homegirl did have a smidgin' of corporate experience working for her parents' insurance firm handling large commercial clients so that at the very least, she would have skills to aid herself as a producer and properly run a company...I am also familiar with this on a smaller level, having also gone that route and then eventually being a wee young-un producing shoots and commercials, while being married to an extraordinary fashion photographer who basically had NOTHING to do with the day to day operation of the production company that we shared... ...sometimes I feel as if a man in the glamour profession doesn't marry a bio-chemist who graduated from Bryn Mawr, people always assume that he has married someone who isn't capable of being his equal...it's pretty unfair, actually... Ok, but let's be real, she would not have had those connections if she WASN'T married to Face. Do you REALLY think she would've started her own record label if she was married to the garbageman down the street? Nope. So she MAY have had the skills, but the connections weren't her's. "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: Ottensen said: What is this? The friggin' affirmative action debate of the sexes ??? Contrary to popular belief, husbands and wives can have connected business interests without the husband necessarily running the show: I have best friends from childhood who have made their mark in Hollywood on several cable series, and now through LION'S GATE FILMS as screenwriters and producers thanks to TRACY EDMONDS financial and contractual support, and her back-up against the old school white boy show biz establishment. Though it may not mean much to a lot of you, at least homegirl did have a smidgin' of corporate experience working for her parents' insurance firm handling large commercial clients so that at the very least, she would have skills to aid herself as a producer and properly run a company...I am also familiar with this on a smaller level, having also gone that route and then eventually being a wee young-un producing shoots and commercials, while being married to an extraordinary fashion photographer who basically had NOTHING to do with the day to day operation of the production company that we shared... ...sometimes I feel as if a man in the glamour profession doesn't marry a bio-chemist who graduated from Bryn Mawr, people always assume that he has married someone who isn't capable of being his equal...it's pretty unfair, actually... Ok, but let's be real, she would not have had those connections if she WASN'T married to Face. Do you REALLY think she would've started her own record label if she was married to the garbageman down the street? Nope. So she MAY have had the skills, but the connections weren't her's. C'mon now...the woman is an EARLY ACCEPTANCE STANFORD GRADUATE with a double degree...I think with her combination of brains and and good looks she would have been successful in whatever she chose to do with or without Babyface as a husband. I will concede that having a husband with a famous name undoubtedly helped her in the music industry, but, I highly doubt that as a "video ho" she would have had the business acumen necessary to simultaneously run SIX companies spanning music, television AND film, from production to actors' representation, which actually the film and television connections would have benefited far more from her being a native Claifornian SAG model than having a music industry hubby...but alas, we have different opinions so I guess I'll just agree to disagree with you on this one.... | |
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ThreadBare said: TheCrucialExperience said: Please, Face didn't need her for HIS career, it was the other way around. He gave her YabYum to shut her up about wanting to be involved with LaFace. This chick was a video ho basically before video hoes had a true name. She owes ALL her shit to Face. Man, I'm not saying he needed her for his career. I'm saying that she bought into his operation, believed enough in what he was doing to him build it. I'm probably a hopeless romantic, but the notion of building a business with one's wife appeals to me. So that's what I'm talking about. Secondly, it's a shame when people assume that a woman, a "video hoe" as you call her, doesn't have anything else going for her -- just because she was in a video. I'd suggest you compare Tracy's role in "My Kind of Girl" with the sorts of images on BET & MTV, also, before you label her that. Face did classy videos, particularly in the early 1990s. It takes business acumen to run the sorts of projects she did and, by the looks of it, will continue to do. That's all I'm saying. And also, back in those days, the record labels for r&b acts like Babyface went through traditional model agencies to find girls for their videos; the circumstances were much more conservative and it was an ENTIRELY different breed of women from the kind of eye candy you see in videos today, many of whom can be picked from what we in the industry now call "street casting" without correct representation (and usually includes a less refined group women who will do anything just to be mugging up next to Yin Yang and the rest of 'em in a video). | |
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Ottensen said: TheCrucialExperience said: Ok, but let's be real, she would not have had those connections if she WASN'T married to Face. Do you REALLY think she would've started her own record label if she was married to the garbageman down the street? Nope. So she MAY have had the skills, but the connections weren't her's. C'mon now...the woman is an EARLY ACCEPTANCE STANFORD GRADUATE with a double degree...I think with her combination of brains and and good looks she would have been successful in whatever she chose to do with or without Babyface as a husband. I will concede that having a husband with a famous name undoubtedly helped her in the music industry, but, I highly doubt that as a "video ho" she would have had the business acumen necessary to simultaneously run SIX companies spanning music, television AND film, from production to actors' representation, which actually the film and television connections would have benefited far more from her being a native Claifornian SAG model than having a music industry hubby...but alas, we have different opinions so I guess I'll just agree to disagree with you on this one.... Well, I got news for you, we will never know if her "good looks" and brains would've gotten her to where she is now minus her famous, rich husband. Also, if she was all that in the 1st place, why was she trying to get into VIDEOS of all things?
Oh, and her SAG affiliation doesn't mean a damn thing in comparison to who her husband knew and hooked up with. Where you got THAT idea is beyond me. No Babyface = No YabYum = No Soul Food the movie/the series = No media conglmoerate for Tracy. Plain and simple. "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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I'm just playin' I don't really care I AM BEATLOAF
www.myspace.com/teriteriboberi www.stickam.com/profile/Beatloaf www.myspace.com/americasfunnyman www.stephenking.com www.tomgreen.com I'm my own favorite orger and that trumps any elitist list you guys can come up with. | |
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Ottensen said: TheCrucialExperience said: Well OF COURSE she bought into his opertaion - HE'S BABYFACE! LOL! What was she supposed to do?: TRACY - "Baby, would you ever consider law school? This little music thing you have here isn't what I see "my" man doing the rest of his life. No security." It's easy to buy into someone's career after it's successful, sheesh. And when I called her a "video ho" I didn't mean to call her a HO, just that's what they would have called her had the phrase been penned back then. And again, I don't see how she's so great in running a business when everything she's been successful in, Face had a hand in. What is this? The friggin' affirmative action debate of the sexes ??? Contrary to popular belief, husbands and wives can have connected business interests without the husband necessarily running the show: I have best friends from childhood who have made their mark in Hollywood on several cable series, and now through LION'S GATE FILMS as screenwriters and producers thanks to TRACY EDMONDS financial and contractual support, and her back-up against the old school white boy show biz establishment. Though it may not mean much to a lot of you, at least homegirl did have a smidgin' of corporate experience working for her parents' insurance firm handling large commercial clients so that at the very least, she would have skills to aid herself as a producer and properly run a company...I am also familiar with this on a smaller level, having also gone that route and then eventually being a wee young-un producing shoots and commercials, while being married to an extraordinary fashion photographer who basically had NOTHING to do with the day to day operation of the production company that we shared... ...sometimes I feel as if a man in the glamour profession doesn't marry a bio-chemist who graduated from Bryn Mawr, people always assume that he has married someone who isn't capable of being his equal...it's pretty unfair, actually... Ottensen, thanks for all your wisdom.  I appreciate it. Tracy Edmonds, for people familiar with industry press, has had a very strategic role in the branding of Kenneth Edmonds' career as "Babyface," through the ups and downs of that career. | |
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