TonyVanDam said:

WBR sued Maverick over the lose of money and faliure to report earnings. They felt they had given Maverick enough time to put out a positive return. Something the label hadn't done since 99. Granted there aren't a lot of record companies that have posted a positive return since than. They settled cause Madonna was going to win because she and her team had found a brech in contract that WBR did. She walked away from the record company, yes, but with the state of the record industry she was probably better off walking away now.

Madge has one album after COAD. Regardless of how many albums are left on her deal Madge has full ownership of her work. Something that Prince wasn't able to do with a label, probably because he didn't understand the business end of the deal.

One of the Major reasons for not putting out a box set of Madonna's work is that they can't get Madge to agree to it, if Warner owned the Masters they wouldn't haven't to worry about that. They have to get her permission to issue one.

ehuffnsd said:

ANd she won't because they own the first 3...right?

but maybe after RIT she has warmed up to making money off her past.

ehuffnsd said:

I'm completely stumped - what is RIT???

thedoorkeeper said:

RIT = Re-Invention tour (2004)--her first ever 'greatest hits' tour

let me say I LOVE MADONNA!!!!! She better keep her word and tour again next summer or else that ho is on my shitlist.

thedoorkeeper said:

RIT = Re-Invention tour (2004)--her first ever 'greatest hits' tour

let me say I LOVE MADONNA!!!!! She better keep her word and tour again next summer or else that ho is on my shitlist.

badujunkie said:

First GH tour...um, that's all they usually are....for the most part...these days (braces for the "technically" stuff). SHe was just using that term because it was in vogue. No matter what she says all of her tours have been in supprt of the current album, regardless of how many tunes are in the show from said album.

And it's not just her...but most artists after 20 years...all of their tours end up being GH tours.

superspaceboy said:

yup... anyone has a catalouge that large if they perform any of it will be labeled a greatest hits tour. now if she had done all album tracks that would be a different story

ehuffnsd said:

ummm...if you remember correctly her previous two tours were NOT heavy on the big hits...check the tracklist for Drowned World and Girlie Show. It was made a big deal that she would be singing songs like "material girl" "vogue" and "burning up."

i swear some people argue some shit they can't back up.

Just found this on madonnanation:

"Hung Up" Enhanced U.S. CD Single

Catalog Number: 9 49987-2
1. (Radio Edit) / "Souls Divided" (Non-Album Track) / (CD Rom Video) (Enhanced Element)

"Hung Up" U.S Vinyl/CD Maxi-Single

Catalog Number: (to be announced)
1. "Hung Up" (Stuart Price Phonicks Vocal) (6:10)
2. "Hung Up" (Bassment Jaxx Re-Work) (7:39)
3. "Hung Up" (Fierce & Coppola's Twisted Connection Club Mix) (9:43)
4. "Hung Up" (Jan Driver's Club Extravaganza) (8:34)
5. "Mother And Father" (Peter Rauhofer's Re-Invention Remix) (10:23) (CD Only)
6. "Mother And Father" (Johnny Rocks World Anthem Mixshow) (5:49) (CD Only)

Anyone else have any other info?

badujunkie said:

RIT had Nobody Knows Me AMerican Life Hollywood Die Another Day Nothing Fails Mother and Father and part of INtervention. That's 7 tracks from a 12 track cd and 7 out of 23 songs on the tour.

Unless i'm wrong most artist don't even do that much from a new album, Prince, Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, Michael, Janet, when they have a large back catalouge

ehuffnsd said:

ummm...if you remember correctly her previous two tours were NOT heavy on the big hits...check the tracklist for Drowned World and Girlie Show. It was made a big deal that she would be singing songs like "material girl" "vogue" and "burning up."

i swear some people argue some shit they can't back up.

badujunkie said:

here's the setlist for girlie show:

Erotica
Fever
Vogue
Rain / Just My Imagination / Singing In The Rain
Express Yourself
Deeper And Deeper
Why's It So Hard
In This Life

Interlude:
The Beast Within

Like A Virgin
Bye Bye Baby
I'm Going Bananas
La Isla Bonita
Holiday
Justify My Love
Everybody Is A Star / Everybody

7 hits and 7 new songs (some of which were big hits, lol...deeper and deeper, erotica, fever). there were 16 songs performed on the girlie show tour, almost half of which were previous hits. seems to me that the girlie show was just as much a "hits" tour as reinvention.

the setlist for drowned world was definitely made of less hits but she was touring, basically, for 3 records at that point. most of the material was made up of records she released prior to the one she was touring on. you could hardly say she was singing NEW material.

badujunkie said:

here's the setlist for girlie show:

Erotica
Fever
Vogue
Rain / Just My Imagination / Singing In The Rain
Express Yourself
Deeper And Deeper
Why's It So Hard
In This Life

Interlude:
The Beast Within

Like A Virgin
Bye Bye Baby
I'm Going Bananas
La Isla Bonita
Holiday
Justify My Love
Everybody Is A Star / Everybody

7 hits and 7 new songs (some of which were big hits, lol...deeper and deeper, erotica, fever). there were 16 songs performed on the girlie show tour, almost half of which were previous hits. seems to me that the girlie show was just as much a "hits" tour as reinvention.

the setlist for drowned world was definitely made of less hits but she was touring, basically, for 3 records at that point. most of the material was made up of records she released prior to the one she was touring on. you could hardly say she was singing NEW material.

SassyBritches said:

We also need to keep in mind that the Girlie show was a limited tour...no? This could definitely have limited hits/vs other tracks.

But really as it's been said anyone with a large cataolog is basically performing a GH tour. Unless its a very special outing...or if an artist specifically chooses mostly obscure material then one can say it's NOT a GH tour. Because most are and it's the norm. To not have a GH tour isn't the norm.
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superspaceboy said:

Most Madonna tours are between 20-30 cities so she doesn't tour very much, and the Girlie Show was the least amount of cities but more in each particular city she toured.

ehuffnsd said:

You know I feel like she tours often. But then again she HAS stepped up the touring on RIT and the one before that one. They were very close together. Though if memory servs correctly Drowned World Tour was the first big one in a LONG time. I went to it as I had never been to one of her shows.

Forgive me, but I wasn't too impressed. But that could be because she was about an inch tall from the nose bleeds and I and just been to burning man...well there is no comparison.

superspaceboy said:

i wasn't thrilled with the dw tour either. it seemed to forced to me. i also didn't care for the choreography AT ALL. i thought it was really amatuerish and expected more from a top act. the setlist was downright dull at times. um, hello? what it feels like for a girl performed in spanish? don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with speaking multiple languages but it just made no sense in the context of the set.

the tour, in general, was very choppy. it was like she said "ok, i'll do some of this over here and then i'll throw in some crouching tiger over there and then i'll tie in the wild west to the wild east and, well, it'll all just work because everyone will be excited to see me."

thankfully, reinvention was the mother of all tours! still, over a year later, its the best concert experience i've EVER had!

The Spanish ghetto set, even with the Spanish WIFLFAG was my favorite.

superspaceboy said:

i wasn't thrilled with the dw tour either. it seemed to forced to me. i also didn't care for the choreography AT ALL. i thought it was really amatuerish and expected more from a top act. the setlist was downright dull at times. um, hello? what it feels like for a girl performed in spanish? don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with speaking multiple languages but it just made no sense in the context of the set.

the tour, in general, was very choppy. it was like she said "ok, i'll do some of this over here and then i'll throw in some crouching tiger over there and then i'll tie in the wild west to the wild east and, well, it'll all just work because everyone will be excited to see me."

thankfully, reinvention was the mother of all tours! still, over a year later, its the best concert experience i've EVER had!

SassyBritches said:

I think with DWT Madonna was very lost in the self indulgence. There were some really great points and than there were alot of really bad. I would have liked more from Bedtime Stories. I don't think the first set flowed very well. the opening of the Geisha was great than it fell apart. It didn't really start to gel until the Country set. By then i think she had lost alot of people's interst. The Spanish ghetto set, even with the Spanish WIFLFAG was my favorite. THe mix of WIFLFAG was great. Now if i had paid money to see it i may have been really upset she didn't do older stuff. But i think i still would have just been happy to see her. I'm glad my first concert for was RIT. The best concert i've ever seen.

on to past tour and span of time.

Virgin Tour 1985
WHo's That Girl 1987
Blonde Ambition 1990
Girlie Show 1993
Drowned World 2001
Re-Invention Tour 2004

I think she's getting back into the old way of doing it. Just Evita and having children threw her out of the cycle for a bit.

SassyBritches said:

Funny, I felt for sure she'd release it on DVD. It's one of the reasons I didn't go...I can get a better seat at home (And I have loved the other ones I saw) and it doesn't cost me an arm and a leg, my first born and a new mortgage...

I still have vivid nightmares of trying to get a ticket for DW. I had a friend who just had an awful time...going through ebay and all kinds of trash to get a ticket. SHe finally got two she paid a lot of money for...then got a hold of 11th row and needed to get rid of the ones she had...and somehow ended up giving the tix away at face value (when she bought them for more). It was a simple miscommunication involving a sale to a co-worker at her brand new job...yada yada yada she spent over 500 to see her. SHe got 11th row and said she could feel the beads of Madonna sweat hitting her in the face...she was that close...and THAT was worth every penny she paid.

ehuffnsd said:

i should point out that my favorite part of the show was when she sang la isla bonita. it was beautiful and very much worth the price of admission. it was done simply and elegantly with no special effects necessary.

ehuffnsd said:

The gap between 93 and 2001 would explaing the craziness to get tix...Heck for most it was almost a decade break...as BAT was a world tour.

VinnyM27 said:

on the radio here, her AL album wasn't "banned" from radio. z100 in ny and 102.7 in LA (the two biggest radio stations in the U.S.) got a mad bunch of calls ripping on them when they played "American Life" the single for the first day, and the DJs and listeners alike hated the rapping which made the single eventually bomb.
from there they rush released "Hollywood" but it didn't stick either.
i remember clear channel issued a statement saying the exact same thing but that "clear channel stations across the country play older Madonna songs all the time." which was TRUE. plus clear channel sponsored her tour. so i dont think the ban was real. i love her a lot but come on it seemed to be a fan's conspiracy theory excuse for 1) a bomb single that a lot of people thought was crappy and 2) a flop album.

Just found this on madonnanation:

"Hung Up" Enhanced U.S. CD Single

Catalog Number: 9 49987-2
1. (Radio Edit) / "Souls Divided" (Non-Album Track) / (CD Rom Video) (Enhanced Element)

"Hung Up" U.S Vinyl/CD Maxi-Single

Catalog Number: (to be announced)
1. "Hung Up" (Stuart Price Phonicks Vocal) (6:10)
2. "Hung Up" (Bassment Jaxx Re-Work) (7:39)
3. "Hung Up" (Fierce & Coppola's Twisted Connection Club Mix) (9:43)
4. "Hung Up" (Jan Driver's Club Extravaganza) (8:34)
5. "Mother And Father" (Peter Rauhofer's Re-Invention Remix) (10:23) (CD Only)
6. "Mother And Father" (Johnny Rocks World Anthem Mixshow) (5:49) (CD Only)

Anyone else have any other info?

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[Edited 10/6/05 15:48pm]