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Printableehuffnsd said: superspaceboy said: Damn, are you gonna bust my chops for almost anything I say?  I was being facetious.i've got my Daddy pants and Master's cap on  watch out   | |
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VinnyM27 said: superspaceboy said: Releasing the video would have had her albums burned like the Dixie Chicks (God has it been that long we've been at war?) For the first time I felt Madonna cow under the pressure. It was interesting because she made such a fuss over the video to begin with. On the radio here, she was banned anyways, so it couldn't have hurt. She could have been a liberal hero! Changed this whole thing around. She was treated like crap anyway so just let it loose. I'm shocked the video is still under wraps! Next time she releases a video set, it's coming out or I'm done with her crappy DVDs!  She should have been a VOICE. Not that many would have liked it...hell it would have looked almost foolish. BUT in light of allt hat was going on, someone powerful needed to step up and say something. And yes...that video better have it on there.
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TwinkleBitch said: VinnyM27 said: On the radio here, she was banned anyways, so it couldn't have hurt. She could have been a liberal hero! Changed this whole thing around. She was treated like crap anyway so just let it loose. I'm shocked the video is still under wraps! Next time she releases a video set, it's coming out or I'm done with her crappy DVDs! She should have been a VOICE. Not that many would have liked it...hell it would have looked almost foolish. BUT in light of allt hat was going on, someone powerful needed to step up and say something. And yes...that video better have it on there.
Shit it's time for a REAL Greatest Hits and Video collection she did use the video on the tour. i have a feeling she's going hold on to a hits and video collection until she gets her master recordings for the First Album, LAV, and TB. Everything else she has. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: TwinkleBitch said: She should have been a VOICE. Not that many would have liked it...hell it would have looked almost foolish. BUT in light of allt hat was going on, someone powerful needed to step up and say something. And yes...that video better have it on there.
Shit it's time for a REAL Greatest Hits and Video collection she did use the video on the tour. i have a feeling she's going hold on to a hits and video collection until she gets her master recordings for the First Album, LAV, and TB. Everything else she has. Is that the reason reissues haven't come out for the others? And how did SHE get her masters if Prince couldn't get his? | |
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Moonbeam said: CHIC0 said:
she was being interviewed about Kylie's condition and her new album on television last night. did u catch it?  Missed it! What'd she say? not much really.
just saying that she was sure Kylie would come out of everything ok. how strong she is and the family's and oliver's support have been wonderful. etc.. then a slight plug for the album. i was just surprised they had her on at all. i'm sure you can see it over the weekend. i think they usually do a recap of the past week shows. | |
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VinnyM27 said: CHIC0 said:
she was being interviewed about Kylie's condition and her new album on television last night. did u catch it? I had Extra on and say that they where going to talk to her but I missed it (it must have been their first story). What did she say about both? Vinny!!!!! 
yep. it was the 1st story of the show. i heard "Minogue" and stayed glued to the set/channel until they showed it.  | |
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TwinkleBitch said: ehuffnsd said: she did use the video on the tour. i have a feeling she's going hold on to a hits and video collection until she gets her master recordings for the First Album, LAV, and TB. Everything else she has. Is that the reason reissues haven't come out for the others? And how did SHE get her masters if Prince couldn't get his? Like A Prayer is the only one that needs it. She got her masters the same way Garth Brooks got his. Better business sense. I don't think Prince thought about those until after the contracts had been signed. He just wanted an outlet to put music out. I've never felt that Prince really understood the buisness side of things until it was too late to fix. Madonna has always been looking out whats best for Madonna. You don't hear about her having the same money issues of MJ or Prince. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: TwinkleBitch said: Is that the reason reissues haven't come out for the others? And how did SHE get her masters if Prince couldn't get his? Like A Prayer is the only one that needs it. She got her masters the same way Garth Brooks got his. Better business sense. I don't think Prince thought about those until after the contracts had been signed. He just wanted an outlet to put music out. I've never felt that Prince really understood the buisness side of things until it was too late to fix. Madonna has always been looking out whats best for Madonna. You don't hear about her having the same money issues of MJ or Prince. No but there was that thing about Maverick going out of Business and not sure if related but there was some dispute with the WB a little over a year ago, though I don't recall what for. | |
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ehuffnsd said: TwinkleBitch said: Is that the reason reissues haven't come out for the others? And how did SHE get her masters if Prince couldn't get his? Like A Prayer is the only one that needs it. She got her masters the same way Garth Brooks got his. Better business sense. I don't think Prince thought about those until after the contracts had been signed. He just wanted an outlet to put music out. I've never felt that Prince really understood the buisness side of things until it was too late to fix. Madonna has always been looking out whats best for Madonna. You don't hear about her having the same money issues of MJ or Prince. .....except that time when WB Music Group sue Madonna over money that was owe to them (Read: advancement/loans). Yes, they settle out of court. But Madonna lost Mavarick Records in the process (THAT part was the settlement). And even today, she still needs to make more new albums for WB. 
At least Prince doesn't have to deal with that crap!  [Edited 10/5/05 16:48pm] | |
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TwinkleBitch said: ehuffnsd said: Like A Prayer is the only one that needs it. She got her masters the same way Garth Brooks got his. Better business sense. I don't think Prince thought about those until after the contracts had been signed. He just wanted an outlet to put music out. I've never felt that Prince really understood the buisness side of things until it was too late to fix. Madonna has always been looking out whats best for Madonna. You don't hear about her having the same money issues of MJ or Prince. No but there was that thing about Maverick going out of Business and not sure if related but there was some dispute with the WB a little over a year ago, though I don't recall what for. Maverick is still in business. Madonna is no longer an owner. WBR sued because they said Maverick lost too much money. Madonna, Guy Orseay and another countersued say WBR underfunded Maverick. It was settled out of court with Madonna and the thrid person walking away with 10 million each. Maverick is still headed by Guy Orseay. on a side note Guy Orseay is now Madonna's manager. Also Madonna's recording contract was and is with WBR. Maverick was put on her records as a coutersy to her ownership of the company. I'm not certain if it will appear on COD or not. But I thought I read Sire and Madonna are working together again. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: TwinkleBitch said: No but there was that thing about Maverick going out of Business and not sure if related but there was some dispute with the WB a little over a year ago, though I don't recall what for. Maverick is still in business. Madonna is no longer an owner. WBR sued because they said Maverick lost too much money. Madonna, Guy Orseay and another countersued say WBR underfunded Maverick. It was settled out of court with Madonna and the thrid person walking away with 10 million each. Maverick is still headed by Guy Orseay. on a side note Guy Orseay is now Madonna's manager. Also Madonna's recording contract was and is with WBR. Maverick was put on her records as a coutersy to her ownership of the company. I'm not certain if it will appear on COD or not. But I thought I read Sire and Madonna are working together again. I did not know this... I heard that Maverick shut its doors. Is it still open...are there any artists on the label still. And the question on everyones minds is...How much are Maverick Jackets worth these days. | |
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TwinkleBitch said: ehuffnsd said: Maverick is still in business. Madonna is no longer an owner. WBR sued because they said Maverick lost too much money. Madonna, Guy Orseay and another countersued say WBR underfunded Maverick. It was settled out of court with Madonna and the thrid person walking away with 10 million each. Maverick is still headed by Guy Orseay. on a side note Guy Orseay is now Madonna's manager. Also Madonna's recording contract was and is with WBR. Maverick was put on her records as a coutersy to her ownership of the company. I'm not certain if it will appear on COD or not. But I thought I read Sire and Madonna are working together again. I did not know this... I heard that Maverick shut its doors. Is it still open...are there any artists on the label still. And the question on everyones minds is...How much are Maverick Jackets worth these days. according to Maverickrc.com it's still up and running You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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VinnyM27 said: superspaceboy said: Releasing the video would have had her albums burned like the Dixie Chicks (God has it been that long we've been at war?) For the first time I felt Madonna cow under the pressure. It was interesting because she made such a fuss over the video to begin with. On the radio here, she was banned anyways, so it couldn't have hurt. She could have been a liberal hero! Changed this whole thing around. She was treated like crap anyway so just let it loose. I'm shocked the video is still under wraps! Next time she releases a video set, it's coming out or I'm done with her crappy DVDs! on the radio here, her AL album wasn't "banned" from radio. z100 in ny and 102.7 in LA (the two biggest radio stations in the U.S.) got a mad bunch of calls ripping on them when they played "American Life" the single for the first day, and the DJs and listeners alike hated the rapping which made the single eventually bomb. from there they rush released "Hollywood" but it didn't stick either. i remember clear channel issued a statement saying the exact same thing but that "clear channel stations across the country play older Madonna songs all the time." which was TRUE. plus clear channel sponsored her tour. so i dont think the ban was real. i love her a lot but come on it seemed to be a fan's conspiracy theory excuse for 1) a bomb single that a lot of people thought was crappy and 2) a flop album. I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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ehuffnsd said: TwinkleBitch said: I did not know this... I heard that Maverick shut its doors. Is it still open...are there any artists on the label still. And the question on everyones minds is...How much are Maverick Jackets worth these days. according to Maverickrc.com it's still up and running No more jackets though  | |
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TwinkleBitch said: ehuffnsd said: according to Maverickrc.com it's still up and running No more jackets though whats the dealio with the jackets? Space for sale... | |
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TonyVanDam said: ehuffnsd said: Like A Prayer is the only one that needs it. She got her masters the same way Garth Brooks got his. Better business sense. I don't think Prince thought about those until after the contracts had been signed. He just wanted an outlet to put music out. I've never felt that Prince really understood the buisness side of things until it was too late to fix. Madonna has always been looking out whats best for Madonna. You don't hear about her having the same money issues of MJ or Prince. .....except that time when WB Music Group sue Madonna over money that was owe to them (Read: advancement/loans). Yes, they settle out of court. But Madonna lost Mavarick Records in the process (THAT part was the settlement). And even today, she still needs to make more new albums for WB.
At least Prince doesn't have to deal with that crap!
[Edited 10/5/05 16:48pm] WBR sued Maverick over the lose of money and faliure to report earnings. They felt they had given Maverick enough time to put out a positive return. Something the label hadn't done since 99. Granted there aren't a lot of record companies that have posted a positive return since than. They settled cause Madonna was going to win because she and her team had found a brech in contract that WBR did. She walked away from the record company, yes, but with the state of the record industry she was probably better off walking away now. Madge has one album after COAD. Regardless of how many albums are left on her deal Madge has full ownership of her work. Something that Prince wasn't able to do with a label, probably because he didn't understand the business end of the deal. One of the Major reasons for not putting out a box set of Madonna's work is that they can't get Madge to agree to it, if Warner owned the Masters they wouldn't haven't to worry about that. They have to get her permission to issue one. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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newskin69 said: CHIC0 said: yes. but perhaps not by much. the American Life video that was aired, was as basic as a video can get. something i think most people don't expect from Madonna. i mean here was nothing to it. i'm pretty sure the 'controversial' version would have gotten more people talking about it, and more people wanting to see and hear it which = more sales.  i'm not sure how important music videos are today, being that music video stations really don't play music videos anymore. and with people just downloading it almost seems pointless (as far as sales are concerned). though with Madonna; when she makes a music video, it's not necessarily another venue to push the album/songs, it's an entity within itself. When I saw the original video(thanx to Kazaa), I was dumbfounded. It was such a good video. Nevermind the controversy or politics over it. It was well shot, well thought up, well choreographed, everything that the piece of shit 2nd version wasnt. Would sales have been better had she stuck to her guns with the original video? Maybe. It might have made people curious, though I have a feeling that the album would have sold low regardless. But it might have made a bit of a difference. Remember, alone, "American Life" is a mediocre Madonna song. Yet put through a remix or a badass visual behind it, the sky's the limit. I agree,the original 'American Life' video is excellent.I think it's one of her Top 5 videos.I was heartbroken when she decided to pull it,although I understood her reasons for doing so.I was glad that she used much of the footage on her tour last year. | |
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TonyVanDam said: ehuffnsd said: Like A Prayer is the only one that needs it. She got her masters the same way Garth Brooks got his. Better business sense. I don't think Prince thought about those until after the contracts had been signed. He just wanted an outlet to put music out. I've never felt that Prince really understood the buisness side of things until it was too late to fix. Madonna has always been looking out whats best for Madonna. You don't hear about her having the same money issues of MJ or Prince. .....except that time when WB Music Group sue Madonna over money that was owe to them (Read: advancement/loans). Yes, they settle out of court. But Madonna lost Mavarick Records in the process (THAT part was the settlement). And even today, she still needs to make more new albums for WB.
At least Prince doesn't have to deal with that crap!
But if Prince had dealt with Warners the way Madonna did,I think he would have been much better off.Maddy has had several problems with the new management at Warners,but she fights with them privately,without causing an uproar and writing "slave" on her face Things are working out for her.She's releasing a new CD soon and Warners is pulling out all the stops to promote it.I think she owes Warners one more album after this,and no doubt,they will work with her again to make sure that it gets the proper promotion.The best thing is,she owns her masters.
As for Maverick Records...it is a sinking ship anyway.Maddy was wise to walk away from it.Every major record company is in trouble these days,and Maverick is no exception.Madonna doesn't need that headache anymore. | |
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DavidEye said: But if Prince had dealt with Warners the way Madonna did,I think he would have been much better off.Maddy has had several problems with the new management at Warners,but she fights with them privately,without causing an uproar and writing "slave" on her face 
Things are working out for her.She's releasing a new CD soon and Warners is pulling out all the stops to promote it.I think she owes Warners one more album after this,and no doubt,they will work with her again to make sure that it gets the proper promotion.The best thing is,she owns her masters.
 honestly, i think some major promotion for a MADONNA album has been long over due. after BEDTIME STORIES, promotion, i thought was somewhat lackluster. regardless of closed door negotiations and disagreements...MADONNA sells albums.
As for Maverick Records...it is a sinking ship anyway.Maddy was wise to walk away from it.Every major record company is in trouble these days,and Maverick is no exception.Madonna doesn't need that headache anymore.
very true! besides, look at all the other record contracts and label deals with major artists that never even came to fruition. i think Maverick was more successful than most anticipated. | |
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CHIC0 said: DavidEye said: As for Maverick Records...it is a sinking ship anyway.Maddy was wise to walk away from it.Every major record company is in trouble these days,and Maverick is no exception.Madonna doesn't need that headache anymore.
very true! besides, look at all the other record contracts and label deals with major artists that never even came to fruition. i think Maverick was more successful than most anticipated. Exactly.Maverick lasted at least a whole decade before running out of steam,which is more than can be said for Paisley Park or Michael Jackson's label (MJJ Records).But these days,vanity labels are either being shut down (Jam and Lewis' Perspective Records),or merging with a larger company with mixed results (P.Diddy's Bad Boy Records and LaFace Records,for example).Even the "successful" labels are losing millions each year.Madonna doesn't need that bullshit. | |
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Her Madgesty's reportedly going to let Oprah bring cameras into her British country manor to see how the other 0.000001% lives, and she'll also perform two numbers from her upcoming CD, "Confessions on a Dancefloor." For those who crave more, the diva's designing her own iPod, loaded with every recording she's ever made, and - call out the New York faithful - she's planning a concert there for MTV. "There is no such thing in life as normal..." | |
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stevenpottle said: MORE NEWS...
Her Madgesty's reportedly going to let Oprah bring cameras into her British country manor to see how the other 0.000001% lives, and she'll also perform two numbers from her upcoming CD, "Confessions on a Dancefloor." For those who crave more, the diva's designing her own iPod, loaded with every recording she's ever made, and - call out the New York faithful - she's planning a concert there for MTV. Great! Can't wait to hear Oprah once again tell Gayle in front of a national audience that she thinks Madonna is selfish | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: stevenpottle said: MORE NEWS...
Her Madgesty's reportedly going to let Oprah bring cameras into her British country manor to see how the other 0.000001% lives, and she'll also perform two numbers from her upcoming CD, "Confessions on a Dancefloor." For those who crave more, the diva's designing her own iPod, loaded with every recording she's ever made, and - call out the New York faithful - she's planning a concert there for MTV. Great! Can't wait to hear Oprah once again tell Gayle in front of a national audience that she thinks Madonna is selfish she said that? when? why? Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: RipHer2Shreds said: Great! Can't wait to hear Oprah once again tell Gayle in front of a national audience that she thinks Madonna is selfish she said that? when? why? It's been some time, so I can't remember exactly what was said. I'm being catty and paraphrasing, but that was the notion. The last time Madonna was on there (a couple years ago), she was saying how much she's changed in recent years and that she's learned as she got older that as fortunate as she is, she should give more to others. She felt like all people are initially concerned about themselves then others. That was the gist, and I can't recall it all for sure. But you could tell by the look on Oprah's face that she didn't agree. She basically just nodded and said "Uh huh." Weeks later, she and Gayle were recapping some of Gayle's favorite moments and Gayle said she noticed from that episode that O didn't agree with Madonna. Oprah said that it was true, she didn't agree, but she didn't want to say it to Madonna's face. So, she chose instead to say it to the rest of the world with Gayle. I love Oprah, and I love what she's done for others but moments like this make me  | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: sosgemini said: she said that? when? why? It's been some time, so I can't remember exactly what was said. I'm being catty and paraphrasing, but that was the notion. The last time Madonna was on there (a couple years ago), she was saying how much she's changed in recent years and that she's learned as she got older that as fortunate as she is, she should give more to others. She felt like all people are initially concerned about themselves then others. That was the gist, and I can't recall it all for sure. But you could tell by the look on Oprah's face that she didn't agree. She basically just nodded and said "Uh huh." Weeks later, she and Gayle were recapping some of Gayle's favorite moments and Gayle said she noticed from that episode that O didn't agree with Madonna. Oprah said that it was true, she didn't agree, but she didn't want to say it to Madonna's face. So, she chose instead to say it to the rest of the world with Gayle. I love Oprah, and I love what she's done for others but moments like this make me It's just Oprah getting back at Madonna for this infamous quote from Truth or Dare "Chicago a conservaitive town one reason not to live here, the other being Oprah Whinfrey lives here." You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: RipHer2Shreds said: It's been some time, so I can't remember exactly what was said. I'm being catty and paraphrasing, but that was the notion. The last time Madonna was on there (a couple years ago), she was saying how much she's changed in recent years and that she's learned as she got older that as fortunate as she is, she should give more to others. She felt like all people are initially concerned about themselves then others. That was the gist, and I can't recall it all for sure. But you could tell by the look on Oprah's face that she didn't agree. She basically just nodded and said "Uh huh." Weeks later, she and Gayle were recapping some of Gayle's favorite moments and Gayle said she noticed from that episode that O didn't agree with Madonna. Oprah said that it was true, she didn't agree, but she didn't want to say it to Madonna's face. So, she chose instead to say it to the rest of the world with Gayle. I love Oprah, and I love what she's done for others but moments like this make me It's just Oprah getting back at Madonna for this infamous quote from Truth or Dare "Chicago a conservaitive town one reason not to live here, the other being Oprah Whinfrey lives here." Nah, Gayle asked her about that too and why Oprah didn't ask about it. Oprah said she hadn't seen the movie and didn't wanna be all "I heard you said you don't like me." They both misquoted Madonna as having said "I don't like Oprah" in Truth or Dare. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: ehuffnsd said: It's just Oprah getting back at Madonna for this infamous quote from Truth or Dare "Chicago a conservaitive town one reason not to live here, the other being Oprah Whinfrey lives here." Nah, Gayle asked her about that too and why Oprah didn't ask about it. Oprah said she hadn't seen the movie and didn't wanna be all "I heard you said you don't like me." They both misquoted Madonna as having said "I don't like Oprah" in Truth or Dare. i'm sure they've at least seen that clip. just good buisness not talk about it. Madge needs Oprah now to promote to her fans who have grown up, and Oprah gets a ratings spike when Madonna shows up. best to not talk about it and sour a working relationship You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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Just found this on madonnanation:
"Hung Up" Enhanced U.S. CD Single Catalog Number: 9 49987-2 1. (Radio Edit) / "Souls Divided" (Non-Album Track) / (CD Rom Video) (Enhanced Element) "Hung Up" U.S Vinyl/CD Maxi-Single Catalog Number: (to be announced) 1. "Hung Up" (Stuart Price Phonicks Vocal) (6:10) 2. "Hung Up" (Bassment Jaxx Re-Work) (7:39) 3. "Hung Up" (Fierce & Coppola's Twisted Connection Club Mix) (9:43) 4. "Hung Up" (Jan Driver's Club Extravaganza) (8:34) 5. "Mother And Father" (Peter Rauhofer's Re-Invention Remix) (10:23) (CD Only) 6. "Mother And Father" (Johnny Rocks World Anthem Mixshow) (5:49) (CD Only) Anyone else have any other info? "There is no such thing in life as normal..." | |
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stevenpottle said: Just found this on madonnanation:
"Hung Up" Enhanced U.S. CD Single Catalog Number: 9 49987-2 1. (Radio Edit) / "Souls Divided" (Non-Album Track) / (CD Rom Video) (Enhanced Element) "Hung Up" U.S Vinyl/CD Maxi-Single Catalog Number: (to be announced) 1. "Hung Up" (Stuart Price Phonicks Vocal) (6:10) 2. "Hung Up" (Bassment Jaxx Re-Work) (7:39) 3. "Hung Up" (Fierce & Coppola's Twisted Connection Club Mix) (9:43) 4. "Hung Up" (Jan Driver's Club Extravaganza) (8:34) 5. "Mother And Father" (Peter Rauhofer's Re-Invention Remix) (10:23) (CD Only) 6. "Mother And Father" (Johnny Rocks World Anthem Mixshow) (5:49) (CD Only) Anyone else have any other info? i hope we get to hear all of the 18 tracks recorded for this album. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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sosgemini said: TwinkleBitch said: No more jackets though whats the dealio with the jackets? Only that they are SUPER rare and practically everyone has a story that goes with how they got it. They are really nice too. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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