andykeen said: haha, watch it U
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Cheek said: andykeen said: haha, watch it U
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Anxiety said: until i got in a "mood" to dig into bowie's old stuff, i honestly didn't feel one way or another about him, other than i thought he was a little weird. when i was ready to explore, though, wow...there was a treasure trove of great music waiting for me.
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Cloudbuster said: Anxiety said: until i got in a "mood" to dig into bowie's old stuff, i honestly didn't feel one way or another about him, other than i thought he was a little weird. when i was ready to explore, though, wow...there was a treasure trove of great music waiting for me.
You gone back to those first four Kate Bush albums yet? I was listening to Sensual World last night, though! | |
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Shapeshifter said: You can't compare them. So don't. I can and do constantly. | |
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GangstaFam said: Shapeshifter said: You can't compare them. So don't. I can and do constantly. i do too...not to figure out which is better, but more to explore all the similarities between the two, of which there are a great many. | |
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andykeen said: Cheek said: Why? Cause maybe in his/her opinion bowie is shit? this is one of those instances where you might hear someone say "i'm entitled to my opinion" and the only correct response is "no you're not" "I don't need your forgiveness, cos I've been saved by Jesus, so fuck you." | |
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Anxiety said: i do too...not to figure out which is better, but more to explore all the similarities between the two, of which there are a great many.
Same here. Maybe it's time for me to start my long analysis in a thread. | |
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GangstaFam said: Anxiety said: i do too...not to figure out which is better, but more to explore all the similarities between the two, of which there are a great many.
Same here. Maybe it's time for me to start my long analysis in a thread. please do so. i am interested! yes SIR! | |
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krayzie said: David Bowie vs Prince ...
Who's the best... I'm not talkin about who's the most talented, but who's the best "artist" ??? thats a tough one personal opinion... I couldn't choose | |
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andykeen said: Cheek said: "Shit"??? You're talking about One Of The Greatest Musical Legends who has influenced thousands of musicians and zillions of fans since the beginning of His Golden Years... Now, please show a little respect for our Hero, Mr. David Bowie! yea i think he is ok(Sowwie) I just think alot of his music (tho alot i haven't heard) isn't that good, but sum songs i really like, e.g. "lets dance" and "changes" I guess it just comes with age? Seriously? I love me some Bowie, but Let's Dance just bugs the shit out of me. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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dawntreader said: GangstaFam said: Same here. Maybe it's time for me to start my long analysis in a thread. please do so. i am interested! Me too. It'd make for an interesting read. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: dawntreader said: please do so. i am interested! Me too. It'd make for an interesting read. It'll take me a month to write. But maybe I'll finally do it. | |
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I'd say David Bowie is better than Prince. Prince's output in the 1980's was just as consistant as Bowie's in the 1970's, but the difference is that I think a lot of Prince's albums are quite patchy, where as all of Bowie's albums in the 1970's were all cohesive.
David Bowie set the landscape for artists like Prince who didn't feel the need to be loyal to one music genre, not that Prince would have stuck to one genre had there never been a David Bowie but in the 1970's it was unthinkable for an artist to move from Hard Rock to Folk, Glam Rock, Soul, Electronic and New Wave. Just imagine the shock of both fans and critics after David Bowie's rock album Diamond Dogs when he then released the soul album Young Americans and even added soul songs to his revolutionary Diamond Dogs Tour in 1974 which was the first tour to use stage prop, cheorographed dancers and employ set designers. The influence of the Diamond Dogs Tour can be seen in all tours by major artists like Michael Jackson, Prince, U2 and Madonna and even at recent as David Bowie's 1990 Sound & Vision Tour where he used interative video screens on stage his influence is used as U2's Zoo and PopMart tours og the 1990's were influnced by what Bowie did in 1990. David Bowie also started making real music videos before most artist including Queen as Bowie started using the medium in 1972, and he made the first truely visual music video in 1980 with the amazing Ashes To Ashes video. David Bowie took both the public and critics by suprise with albums like Low which really went outside the mainstream of pop/rock music. I think Prince is an amazing artist and he's my 3rd favorite artist, but I can't think of any artist who's been as far ahead of there time and as influencial as David Bowie, the man is 58yrs old and he's still the coolest man in the world who continues to amaze the world with great music. | |
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Didn't the Beatles move from folk to soul to hard rock way before Bowie? I thought they paved the way for the concept album, and the the genre jumping. They also had purely visual videos made for their songs (Penny Lane & Strawberry Fields).
Didn't Elvis or Sinatra use stage props and choreographed dancers? I'm not sure about it, but the whole idea of using stage props and conceptual choreography can be seen in footage from the 40's (which is the vibe that the released, misunderstood "Tick Tick Bang" was all about in my opinion). Didn't Pink Floyd make completely crazy conceptual albums and performances before they went into more "pop" mode? Stuff that was way further out there than "Low" and way before. As far back as 1969 or '68? And even then, there were hundreds of unknown local rock bands doing artsy theatrical stuff in the late sixties. It became the stuff of parody. As far as being cool, there is no doubt that David Bowie has the coolest persona in Rock/Pop. A bit "loungy" cool on the physical stylistics of his image, but fairly cool. I'm editing a comedy video a friend shot about an alien coming down and just getting drunk to "I'm Deranged" by Bowie. At least the parts before the alien gets drunk. I think TVC15 would be great music for a film sequence of drunken partying.... hmmmm. Does the beat of "Modern Love" slightly speed up as the song goes along? Isolar said: David Bowie set the landscape for artists like Prince who didn't feel the need to be loyal to one music genre, not that Prince would have stuck to one genre had there never been a David Bowie but in the 1970's it was unthinkable for an artist to move from Hard Rock to Folk, Glam Rock, Soul, Electronic and New Wave. ... and even added soul songs to his revolutionary Diamond Dogs Tour in 1974 which was the first tour to use stage prop, cheorographed dancers and employ set designers... David Bowie also started making real music videos before most artist including Queen as Bowie started using the medium in 1972, and he made the first truely visual music video in 1980 with the amazing Ashes To Ashes video. David Bowie took both the public and critics by suprise with albums like Low which really went outside the mainstream of pop/rock music. My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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ufoclub said: Didn't the Beatles move from folk to soul to hard rock way before Bowie? I thought they paved the way for the concept album, and the the genre jumping. They also had purely visual videos made for their songs (Penny Lane & Strawberry Fields).
Perhaps it's the complete abandon with which Bowie throws himself into a new phase/genre of music. I realize that the Beatles tried many different styles, but when I think of them, I think of a pop-rock band. So many of Bowie's shifts have been so complete and so radical from one album to the next. I mean to go from the psycho hard rock of "The Man Who Sold The World" to the confection pop perfection of "Hunky Dory" or the future dystopia of "Diamond Dogs" to the entirely concept-free and warm "Young Americans" or the funk-rock magnum opus of "Station to Station" to the minimalist and alien "Low"...it still boggles the mind. And throw in the radical physical transformations, artistic alliances, political and personal ideologies and you get a different Bowie about every other year. I think that's why his evolution is so much more startling than Prince's. Prince has kinda always been Prince. Bowie, you just never know. | |
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Definitely David Bowie...
If we are talkin about creativity, innovation, originality, eclectism... David Bowie wins so far... Strange that I realize that, just few days ago... [Edited 10/15/05 17:47pm] | |
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Bowie versus Prince goes to Prince, imho.
The Thin White Duke is a cool ass white boy, but at the end of the day, I'd rather hear Prince. I think Prince is a more accomplished musician as well. I kinda like the image, ideal and romanticism of Prince's musical legacy as a one man band. Bowie's voice isnt so tight and sometimes I get the feeling that he chose style over substance. PS... Are you kidding me? The opinion in the post above me is horribly ludicrous. All the originality, innovations and et al that was mentioned concerning Bowie can easily be applied to Prince. [Edited 10/15/05 18:41pm] | |
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krayzie said: Definitely David Bowie...
If we are talkin about creativity, innovation, originality, eclectism... David Bowie wins so far... Strange that I realize that, just few days ago... [Edited 10/15/05 17:47pm] You're entitled your opinion but I really wish you would get a new avatar. With each post you make I think you're somehow tarnishing my respect for Stevie. As for your original question, it's a toss-up. They're too close in quality to compare. Same with Stevie and Sly and all of the greats (except Hendrix of course ) If you want my opinion I'll go with Prince but I won't insult anyone's intelligence and try to explain why he's better. It's just my preference. | |
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chuckaducci said: Bowie versus Prince goes to Prince, imho.
The Thin White Duke is a cool ass white boy, but at the end of the day, I'd rather hear Prince. I think Prince is a more accomplished musician as well. I kinda like the image, ideal and romanticism of Prince's musical legacy as a one man band. Bowie's voice isnt so tight and sometimes I get the feeling that he chose style over substance. PS... Are you kidding me? The opinion in the post above me is horribly ludicrous. All the originality, innovations and et al that was mentioned concerning Bowie can easily be applied to Prince. [Edited 10/15/05 18:41pm] When you look at Prince you can see easily HOW much he has been influenced by the greatest artists of the 60s/70s... It's more than obvious.... he admitted it... What Prince could have been without all those influences ??? But when you look at David Bowie, he looks like anybody... But I understand your point... | |
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whodknee said: krayzie said: Definitely David Bowie...
If we are talkin about creativity, innovation, originality, eclectism... David Bowie wins so far... Strange that I realize that, just few days ago... [Edited 10/15/05 17:47pm] You're entitled your opinion but I really wish you would get a new avatar. With each post you make I think you're somehow tarnishing my respect for Stevie. I really don't care about what you think... whodknee said: As for your original question, it's a toss-up. They're too close in quality to compare. Same with Stevie and Sly and all of the greats (except Hendrix of course ) If you want my opinion I'll go with Prince but I won't insult anyone's intelligence and try to explain why he's better. It's just my preference.
Why Prince fans always take it bad when some people don't consider their favorite artist as the greatest... [Edited 10/15/05 19:01pm] | |
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krayzie said:[quote] whodknee said: I really don't care about what you think... whodknee said: As for your original question, it's a toss-up. They're too close in quality to compare. Same with Stevie and Sly and all of the greats (except Hendrix of course ) If you want my opinion I'll go with Prince but I won't insult anyone's intelligence and try to explain why he's better. It's just my preference.
Why Prince fans always take it bad when some people don't consider their favorite artist as the greatest... [Edited 10/15/05 19:01pm] What's the saying? Reading is fundamental. Why don't muthafuckas read shit before responding? The main point of my post is that you (and everybody else) are entitled to your opinions. Then I simply gave mine. I didn't expect you to change your avatar I just made the observation and decided to take a jab at you. I shouldn't have done that. Though, now I REALLY wish you would change your avatar. | |
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I don't know to much about Bowie, so I have to say Prince. I probably would like Bowie so maybe I should check him out. | |
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Prince is far better.
Bowie is great. But Prince is far better. | |
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Whom is better than the other??? To me its a silly question. I'm just very Thankful to have both of them. I own everything Prince and Bowie.
Prince Vs. MJ back in the day.. whom was Bowie up against?? On the note of concept albums, before the Beatles! Johnny Cash (another great musician) was all over the idea of concept albums.."Ride this Train" comes to mind. Bowie never had the big time sellers like Prince. Still Bowie Vs Prince???? To me its like WHAT??? Two of the greatest ever and we have so many other weak and shitty artists in this world getting respect!!! I say just give the greats the respect and P and Bowie deserve all they get. It's like come on folks, the Stone vs Hendrix vs Bowie vs Prince!!! Whos best..well prolly some dumb ass kid would say someone from freakin American Idol are best!! The world needs some fixin. | |
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krayzie said: When you look at Prince you can see easily HOW much he has been influenced by the greatest artists of the 60s/70s... It's more than obvious.... he admitted it... What Prince could have been without all those influences ??? But when you look at David Bowie, he looks like anybody... But I understand your point... That argument is tired. There has never existed any musician or artist, for that matter, who was without an influence. Early Beethoven sounds like Handel. Wagner was riding Beethoven's jock early in his career. I dont care what the influences are, I only care about how well you meld and work with those influences. And Bowie is not absolved from being without an influence; that man has gone through so many fashion and musical genres that he even tops Madonna! Bowie's been a hippie, glam rocker, wannabe soul singer, Eno-ite, and a singer-songwriter type. Didnt he dabble in disco as well? I admire Bowie's ability to endure the public's transient tastes and to switch up his image and sound. Like I said earlier, Bowie's a cool ass dude. It's his songwriting skills that I"m not terribly impressed with. So my point is, is at the end of the day, I'm only concerned with songs and how well they are written. For me, I'll take Prince. | |
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AsianBomb777 said: Prince is far better.
Bowie is great. But Prince is far better. | |
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Prince is my best ever ever.
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chuckaducci said: krayzie said: When you look at Prince you can see easily HOW much he has been influenced by the greatest artists of the 60s/70s... It's more than obvious.... he admitted it... What Prince could have been without all those influences ??? But when you look at David Bowie, he looks like anybody... But I understand your point... That argument is tired. There has never existed any musician or artist, for that matter, who was without an influence. Early Beethoven sounds like Handel. Wagner was riding Beethoven's jock early in his career. I dont care what the influences are, I only care about how well you meld and work with those influences. And Bowie is not absolved from being without an influence; that man has gone through so many fashion and musical genres that he even tops Madonna! Bowie's been a hippie, glam rocker, wannabe soul singer, Eno-ite, and a singer-songwriter type. Didnt he dabble in disco as well? I admire Bowie's ability to endure the public's transient tastes and to switch up his image and sound. Like I said earlier, Bowie's a cool ass dude. It's his songwriting skills that I"m not terribly impressed with. So my point is, is at the end of the day, I'm only concerned with songs and how well they are written. For me, I'll take Prince. I never said Bowie has no influence, Bowie used to be a fan of Little Richard and Bob Dylan when he was a teenager... But what he has created has nothing to do with any other artist before... It was very fresh and new (like most artist of the late 60's and 70's)... You can't deny that... | |
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this is such a dumb question. Which do you prefer? Light or wind?
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