Ya know what? Fuck Diana Ross's ass. Comedians joke about people in the audience or celebrities in the audience all the damn time. People make jokes about people behind their backs. Kudos to Mr. Mooney for saying that isht to Tracee's face. Fuck her, too..changing her name to Ross to capitilize on her mother fame. The only issue I have is with him bringing up the death of Tracee's stepdad but say what y'all wanna say, had Tracee not been in the room, muthafuckas would have been laughing their asses off. | |
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Stymie said: Ya know what? Fuck Diana Ross's ass. Comedians joke about people in the audience or celebrities in the audience all the damn time. People make jokes about people behind their backs. Kudos to Mr. Mooney for saying that isht to Tracee's face. Fuck her, too..changing her name to Ross to capitilize on her mother fame. The only issue I have is with him bringing up the death of Tracee's stepdad but say what y'all wanna say, had Tracee not been in the room, muthafuckas would have been laughing their asses off.
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DorothyParkerWasCool said: Stymie said: Ya know what? Fuck Diana Ross's ass. Comedians joke about people in the audience or celebrities in the audience all the damn time. People make jokes about people behind their backs. Kudos to Mr. Mooney for saying that isht to Tracee's face. Fuck her, too..changing her name to Ross to capitilize on her mother fame. The only issue I have is with him bringing up the death of Tracee's stepdad but say what y'all wanna say, had Tracee not been in the room, muthafuckas would have been laughing their asses off.
Folks make fun of Sonny Bono's death, John Denver's death, Ricky Nelson's death, etc., but Diana Ross's ex-husband is off limits? If folks are gonna say it's wrong, then it's wrong in everybody's case. | |
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laurarichardson said: SexyBeautifulOne said: LOL, so you'd let someone disrespect your mother? I see, guess that's why your initials are SOB. ----- You act like Diane was not drunk off her ass. She could have killed someone. I think a lot of you guys are to young to know about some of Diane antics back in the Motown days. She was known for being super bitchy and mean. It is called Karma or what goes around comes around. I don't think Paul gives a crap as he talks about everybody and still manages to find work. THANK U, I saw the show and it was funny as hell, 2me he was the show. Diana got what she deserved. if she had killed someone out there being drunk driving then what? She was a bitch in her day and did'nt care who she hurt along the way. Payback is a bitch. I totally agree with u laurarichardson. Paul is a comedian and if his act was so offensive they would'nt have aired it. I felt sorry 4 her daughter, but that shit was funny. Like he said its ok for Leno and company 2 say whatever but when he speaks he has 2 watch what he says oh well those who were offended need 2 get over it. | |
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DiamondGirl said: sinisterpentatonic said: I thought it was well known that he was gay. It's alluded to on Richard Pryor's Television show box set Pryor Roast portion. Sandra Bernhard is a guest-writer as well, so they know each other from back then. Paul also has two older children, the Mooney Twins, a comedy act with social content. . [Edited 10/2/05 20:07pm] Mooney is gay? I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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Moonwalkbjrain said: laurarichardson said: ----- Traci must know about her mother's rep. She knows everybody is not a fan. She needs to get a tough skin if she is going to be in the entertainment business. I think Paul is in the right profession he has been in it for over 40 years. You need to go back and listen to some old Richard Pryor cd's if you really want to know what is on Paul's mind. He wrote some of Rich's best stuff and it is not for the thin-skinned. wow, so if i was a well known comedian and u were a famous something and ur ma was too, and if she drove drunk or was a junkie or something, then it would be ok for him to talk shit about her right? can u HONESTLY say u would be fine with me talkin shit about ur mother? ----- What am going to do jump up on the stage and knock Paul out because he said something about my mother that was true. If I am in the public eye I would expect that people are going to talk about me and I would have to take it. I would not have ran out of the room but,I would definitly fired back on his ass. As I have a biting sense of humor too. You don't run like a bitch plus I know Tracee must know that people talk about her mom. This time it happened in front of her face and not behind her back. Do you know that back in the Motown days Diane tried to run over one of the singers in another girl group due to a dispute over a man? Diane is a mean and just don't feel sorry for her. | |
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laurarichardson said: Moonwalkbjrain said: wow, so if i was a well known comedian and u were a famous something and ur ma was too, and if she drove drunk or was a junkie or something, then it would be ok for him to talk shit about her right? can u HONESTLY say u would be fine with me talkin shit about ur mother? ----- What am going to do jump up on the stage and knock Paul out because he said something about my mother that was true. If I am in the public eye I would expect that people are going to talk about me and I would have to take it. I would not have ran out of the room but,I would definitly fired back on his ass. As I have a biting sense of humor too. You don't run like a bitch plus I know Tracee must know that people talk about her mom. This time it happened in front of her face and not behind her back. Do you know that back in the Motown days Diane tried to run over one of the singers in another girl group due to a dispute over a man? Diane is a mean and just don't feel sorry for her. i didnt know about her trynna run someone over, however i do know that she did have a bitch streak back in the day. and ur right karma is a bitch diana deserves to get hers, i dont feel sorry for her either, but why should traci be punished for her ma's bullshit? noone wants to hear their parent get talked about like a dog, and its even worse when its in ur face like it was with her. i feel for her cuz i wouldnt want noone trash talkin my mother in my face no matter how much of a bitch she is. it might've been funny (i give mr mooney that) but i think he was wrong and even wronger for bringing he step dad in2 it. Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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Moonwalkbjrain said: laurarichardson said: ----- What am going to do jump up on the stage and knock Paul out because he said something about my mother that was true. If I am in the public eye I would expect that people are going to talk about me and I would have to take it. I would not have ran out of the room but,I would definitly fired back on his ass. As I have a biting sense of humor too. You don't run like a bitch plus I know Tracee must know that people talk about her mom. This time it happened in front of her face and not behind her back. Do you know that back in the Motown days Diane tried to run over one of the singers in another girl group due to a dispute over a man? Diane is a mean and just don't feel sorry for her. i didnt know about her trynna run someone over, however i do know that she did have a bitch streak back in the day. and ur right karma is a bitch diana deserves to get hers, i dont feel sorry for her either, but why should traci be punished for her ma's bullshit? noone wants to hear their parent get talked about like a dog, and its even worse when its in ur face like it was with her. i feel for her cuz i wouldnt want noone trash talkin my mother in my face no matter how much of a bitch she is. it might've been funny (i give mr mooney that) but i think he was wrong and even wronger for bringing he step dad in2 it. i feel the same way. what was the point of dogging out somebody else's child on national television because you feel like they need to be checked? reagrdless to what diana has done in her past, to me two wrongs don't make a right, and what mr. mooney did was simply UGLY....and to publically joke about someone's recently deceased step dad is in poor taste, period. what did arne ness ever do to mr. mooney to be the target of his acid tongued wrath, and in front of his step child? | |
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dreamfactory313 said: Im glad I didnt watch this show.
Theres a difference between being funny and being malicious. Tis true. | |
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" Kudos to Mr. Mooney for saying that isht to Tracee's face. Fuck her, too..changing her name to Ross to capitilize on her mother fame..."
_____ As far as I remember, Tracee has been using her last name as Ross since before her days at Brown University, and only dropped it for a very short time after graduation. It has never been a secret in the educatonal community, fashion, publishing, or entertainment industry exactly whose daughter she was.... | |
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i think its a matter of timing and place....mooney wasnt in the wrong for making the comments..its just the timing was soo late it wasnt funny..and he errored in not knowing tracee was there which puts him in the hotseat..
same sh*t with whoopie and ted danson...sometimes what you say is percieved wrong...thats the nature of being a comedian. you run that risk... mooney deserved the reaction he received and he is going to have to live with it... Space for sale... | |
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sonofblade said: Paul Mooney is taking some heat from getting on Diana Ross for drunk driving at the BET Comedy Awards. He doesnt deserve to be the villian - he didnt drive drunk, she did! For Traci Ross, if you know you mother drives drunk and people know about it, get ready to be embarrassed about it and take it like a man. That is show business and fame. It aint all champange, cherries and ass kissings. Diana Ross has been fucked up for years and someone called her on it. Negroes - those that produce those dumb ass BET shows - should get over it and themselves.
Paul Mooney is a genius and if that cunt bitch was driving drunk she deserves all the shit she gets thrown at by Mooney... People who drive drunk should be sentenced for attempt of murder... Neversin. O(+>NIИ<+)O
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Neversin said: sonofblade said: Paul Mooney is taking some heat from getting on Diana Ross for drunk driving at the BET Comedy Awards. He doesnt deserve to be the villian - he didnt drive drunk, she did! For Traci Ross, if you know you mother drives drunk and people know about it, get ready to be embarrassed about it and take it like a man. That is show business and fame. It aint all champange, cherries and ass kissings. Diana Ross has been fucked up for years and someone called her on it. Negroes - those that produce those dumb ass BET shows - should get over it and themselves.
Paul Mooney is a genius and if that cunt bitch was driving drunk she deserves all the shit she gets thrown at by Mooney... People who drive drunk should be sentenced for attempt of murder... Neversin. oh please....thats a good 3/4th of this country..... Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: oh please....thats a good 3/4th of this country.....
Wouldn't be a bad thing now would it? Neversin. [Edited 10/5/05 17:12pm] O(+>NIИ<+)O
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Ottensen said: Moonwalkbjrain said: i didnt know about her trynna run someone over, however i do know that she did have a bitch streak back in the day. and ur right karma is a bitch diana deserves to get hers, i dont feel sorry for her either, but why should traci be punished for her ma's bullshit? noone wants to hear their parent get talked about like a dog, and its even worse when its in ur face like it was with her. i feel for her cuz i wouldnt want noone trash talkin my mother in my face no matter how much of a bitch she is. it might've been funny (i give mr mooney that) but i think he was wrong and even wronger for bringing he step dad in2 it. i feel the same way. what was the point of dogging out somebody else's child on national television because you feel like they need to be checked? reagrdless to what diana has done in her past, to me two wrongs don't make a right, and what mr. mooney did was simply UGLY....and to publically joke about someone's recently deceased step dad is in poor taste, period. what did arne ness ever do to mr. mooney to be the target of his acid tongued wrath, and in front of his step child? Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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I suppose variety is the spice of life because I can't for the life of me understand how ANYONE CANNOT see what was wrong with Paul Mooney saying what he said, when and where he said it. I can only pray for those here with the attitude of, "well Diana Ross deserved it", and "Tracey should have been stronger than she is". It just shows how sick the world is when there is a situation where a guy say's something vicious about the mother and deceased stepfather of someone whose present in the room and the person whose mother is being vilified is the bad one for taking offense. It's funny how someone mentioned this being karma for Diana Ross, because if that is the case, lord help Paul Mooney. I am convinced Beyonce's career would not be where it is, if she had dark skin. | |
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yea,i saw the awards...i was like "aww crap,does he know tracee is there..."im like please stop-she seems to be a very open humerous person,i dont think she would have gotten VERY angry at the jokes about her mother,probally uncomfortable but the jokes about her dead stepdad were uncalled 4 and just mean...not comedy,down rite mean-u dont disrespect people's family especially their mother like that and u definately dont disrespect the dead like that especially infront of their family?!?!what the heck... [Edited 10/6/05 16:02pm] | |
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VelvetJ said: I suppose variety is the spice of life because I can't for the life of me understand how ANYONE CANNOT see what was wrong with Paul Mooney saying what he said, when and where he said it. I can only pray for those here with the attitude of, "well Diana Ross deserved it", and "Tracey should have been stronger than she is". It just shows how sick the world is when there is a situation where a guy say's something vicious about the mother and deceased stepfather of someone whose present in the room and the person whose mother is being vilified is the bad one for taking offense.
It's funny how someone mentioned this being karma for Diana Ross, because if that is the case, lord help Paul Mooney. Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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VelvetJ said: I suppose variety is the spice of life because I can't for the life of me understand how ANYONE CANNOT see what was wrong with Paul Mooney saying what he said, when and where he said it. I can only pray for those here with the attitude of, "well Diana Ross deserved it", and "Tracey should have been stronger than she is". It just shows how sick the world is when there is a situation where a guy say's something vicious about the mother and deceased stepfather of someone whose present in the room and the person whose mother is being vilified is the bad one for taking offense. I didn't see the show and we are still waiting for the quotes on exactly what he said. The only problem I personally have with what happened is the hypocrisy of it all. Comedians talk about everybody. Ever laugh at a Michael Jackson joke? Ever laugh when Eddie Murphy was poking fun at a very real conversation he had with Bill Cosby? Haven't we all laughed at yo' momma jokes even when the things said were true? Comedians poke fun at dead people and no one says shit so I refuse to get all in an uproar over this. Either everyone's fair game or no one is.
It's funny how someone mentioned this being karma for Diana Ross, because if that is the case, lord help Paul Mooney. People who feel passionate about this should write to Mr. Mooney. I can just about guarantee he won't be apologizing. | |
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Stymie said: People who feel passionate about this should write to Mr. Mooney. I can just about guarantee he won't be apologizing.
And he shouldn't, the man has every right to say whatever the fuck he wants and if people don't like then it's their problem... Neversin. O(+>NIИ<+)O
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Neversin said: Stymie said: People who feel passionate about this should write to Mr. Mooney. I can just about guarantee he won't be apologizing.
And he shouldn't, the man has every right to say whatever the fuck he wants and if people don't like then it's their problem... Neversin. i'll agree..but i also would agree that people have the right to give him crap..and if his career is hurt from it, so be it. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: Neversin said: And he shouldn't, the man has every right to say whatever the fuck he wants and if people don't like then it's their problem... Neversin. i'll agree..but i also would agree that people have the right to give him crap..and if his career is hurt from it, so be it. As far as Diana goes, I'm sure Mooney didn' say something that people had not been saying about her behind her back. He just had to balls to say it around people. | |
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Paul Mooney responds back to BET: Comedian Paul Mooney says Comics should not talk about other comics and said “its a rule of thumb that comics don’t criticize other comics. The pot doesn’t talk about the Skillet, its that simple”. Mooney is particularly annoyed at Steve Harvey who he thinks is becoming infamous for this type of double talk back stabbing. Mooney further says Harvey is wierd and that his skit dialogue during the Cook Awards was overblown by the BET editing process along with Harvey’s comments.
Mooney said he never indicated Diana Ross ex husband by name, he simply said white people go rock climbing and disappear and he said his comments regarding Diana Ross being in rehab were simply that she was singing her hit “If there’s a cure for this this I dont want it.” I wonder if there isn't something else going on between Harvey and Mooney since Harvey now hosts the radio program Mooney used to host. Mooney quit before his contract was over but there has been talk that they didn't want him to finish it out. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Stymie said: sosgemini said: i'll agree..but i also would agree that people have the right to give him crap..and if his career is hurt from it, so be it. As far as Diana goes, I'm sure Mooney didn' say something that people had not been saying about her behind her back. He just had to balls to say it around people. Word! That's what comics do. Ain't nothing at all shocking about anything Paul Mooney says. I always hear people making fun of Ms. Ross when it's convenient, but now they all of a sudden wanna rally to her defense. C'mon. If you're a music icon and you commit a serious crime, you're gonna really "get it" from comedians. If you're black, you're gonna get it with no vaseline. Paul Mooney doesn't play, though. He'll say anything. I remember one time some lady was offended by his act and she started to walk out of the club. Of course, he immediately jumped on her. "That's right honey, go ahead and get outta here, and ya better hurry 'cause there's probably a couple o' ni**as breakin' into your home as we speak". Dude has no filter. | |
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OdysseyMiles said: Stymie said: That's very true.
As far as Diana goes, I'm sure Mooney didn' say something that people had not been saying about her behind her back. He just had to balls to say it around people. Word! That's what comics do. Ain't nothing at all shocking about anything Paul Mooney says. I always hear people making fun of Ms. Ross when it's convenient, but now they all of a sudden wanna rally to her defense. C'mon. If you're a music icon and you commit a serious crime, you're gonna really "get it" from comedians. If you're black, you're gonna get it with no vaseline. Paul Mooney doesn't play, though. He'll say anything. I remember one time some lady was offended by his act and she started to walk out of the club. Of course, he immediately jumped on her. "That's right honey, go ahead and get outta here, and ya better hurry 'cause there's probably a couple o' ni**as breakin' into your home as we speak". Dude has no filter. If these spoiled celebrities can't take the heat, then don't put your business out in the street. | |
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uPtoWnNY said: OdysseyMiles said: Word! That's what comics do. Ain't nothing at all shocking about anything Paul Mooney says. I always hear people making fun of Ms. Ross when it's convenient, but now they all of a sudden wanna rally to her defense. C'mon. If you're a music icon and you commit a serious crime, you're gonna really "get it" from comedians. If you're black, you're gonna get it with no vaseline. Paul Mooney doesn't play, though. He'll say anything. I remember one time some lady was offended by his act and she started to walk out of the club. Of course, he immediately jumped on her. "That's right honey, go ahead and get outta here, and ya better hurry 'cause there's probably a couple o' ni**as breakin' into your home as we speak". Dude has no filter. If these spoiled celebrities can't take the heat, then don't put your business out in the street. your right..if vultures like mooney are around.... sorry folks, not a fan of mooney's at all...having to use profanity to get a laugh...having to always go for the cheapshot...thats just not talent IMHO...even pryor got away from that type of humor....comedy is an artform..mooney has always been on the fringe because he refuses to grow his act beyond the pedestrian. Space for sale... | |
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[quote] OdysseyMiles said: Stymie said: That's very true.
As far as Diana goes, I'm sure Mooney didn' say something that people had not been saying about her behind her back. He just had to balls to say it around people. Word! That's what comics do. Ain't nothing at all shocking about anything Paul Mooney says. I always hear people making fun of Ms. Ross when it's convenient, but now they all of a sudden wanna rally to her defense. C'mon. If you're a music icon and you commit a serious crime, you're gonna really "get it" from comedians. If you're black, you're gonna get it with no vaseline. thats true, and ur right, but the point people here are trynna make is her daughter was there. it was pretty rude to do that while her daughter was there. would u like it if i talked shit about ur mom? Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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this actually depends on the person...some ppl dont care if their mom is being talked about badly infront of hundreds of people.If someone was talkin about my mom,joking or not,true or false things...id still be annoyed,and im not even close with my mother-its just the point of respect. | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: co-sign...it's really not. Don't think so, huh? Well let's see, the "Chappelle Show" is dead in the water and with the flack BET is getting from his "performance", his future there is pretty much belly up too. So, if he still wants an audience, it's time. If he doesn't, well, c'est la vie. belly up at BET? he's the only reason anyone's talking about this show. they ought to give him his own damn show as a thank you. "I don't need your forgiveness, cos I've been saved by Jesus, so fuck you." | |
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