Ace said:

Older. Of course she looked good when she was younger. Doesn't everyone?

andyman91 said:

I plan on never smiling or showing any expression on my face from now on then.

minneapolisgenius said:

Ya know, I usually dig short hair on women, but it just doesn't work for me on Joan.

Ace said:

Yeah, I was surprised to see her with short hair actually.

minneapolisgenius said:

You're going to look better than Joan when you're her age.

Ace said:

I've got lots of wonderful footage to the contrary. There's not much harmonica I like, and I love Dylans playing sometimes.

mynameisnotsusan said:

You are welcome to enjoy Bob's harmonica playing. Talk to musicians who can play the instrument, though, and they will assure you he is crap.

I love Dylan despite his harp playing.

This footage rules.....

Ace said:

He's not crap, he's abstract. He's no Sonny Boy Williamson, but he is able to evoke an emotion with his harp.

On the other hand, I'm sure that the fat guy from Blues Traveller is a very accomplished harmonica player, but the sound is very offensive to my ears. It's more about feel than skill.

I was half-watching this last night on BBC2. I thought that Joan Baez was Camille Paglia until she picked up a guitar. I just sort of had it on in the background.

the footage of a young Dylan Vs the press was superb.

i see myself as a song and dance man.,

ThaCat said:

was very funny.

"You've never listened to my music?!"

But his reluctance to answer any questions in a straightforward way was a bit annoying. He reminded me of another famous musician from Minnesota. Perhaps that elusiveness was fresh & new in 1965.
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andyman91 said:

I love the elusiveness. I wish others kept things more private. Most celebs these day want the whole world to know everything about them just to show how cool they are. Dylans privacy and his thoughts are sacred to him and I totally respect that. He could sure teach some newbies a thing or two about modesty and privacy.

kisscamille said:

It just seems odd to give press conferences and not say anything. I guess he was forced into them.

andyman91 said:

Exactly! The record company sets these up and expects him to be present, but it's up to him what he answers and how. At least he doesn't give interviews where he has someone else answer for him (like P).

kisscamille said:

Things were different back then. I can barely imagine press conferences with singers now. "Britney, how will being a mother affect your abs?" "Kanye, are you really a fan of Franz Ferdinand, or did Kurt Loder tell you they were good?"

that was truely amazing! part two was the best for me, that live footage had me DROOLING , and i am in LOVE with joan baez, her voice is so beautiful and so is she the press conference footage was sooo funny,but he handled it well i think. the funniest part tho was when he was standin in the street just sayin random shit. something about birds to wash my feet, etc..etc.. i cant even remember most of what he said cuz i was laughin so hard.
mr scosesee has truely inspired me with this one

andyman91 said:

In most cases, what was he supposed to say?
Did you hear some of the ridiculous questions he was asked?

Especially the guy that was trying to almost demand that there was some mystical significance...



...to him wearing a Triumph motorcyle T-shirt.


Perfect examples of people trying read further into things than necessary.


tA


Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

theAudience said:

The shirt was important! It forshadowed his accident that was kharmic retribution for going electric on those albums!

That was pretty funny. Dylan says everyone likes motorcycles, and the guy immediately says "I do too!" or something like that. How'd he even get in to that press conference, damn freak!

But he could've answered some of the questions, like the one about messages being subtle or obvious (though it was funny how he embarrassed her into admitting she got the info from a movie magazine). He obviously didn't want to answer any of them, whether they were good questions or not.

theAudience said:

ooooo that part was extra hilarious!

The shirt was important! It forshadowed his accident that was kharmic retribution for going electric on those albums!

andyman91 said:

Yeah right!

Funny. The questioner didn't look like...



...Miss Cleo.


tA


Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

Moonwalkbjrain said:

If there was an accident at all. There have been stories that it was fabricated or very minor and exaggerated. I wouldn't put it past Dylan.

Dylan fans are crazier than P fans Bunch of drugged maniacs almost demanding he lead a revolution! There was a guy who went through Dylans garbage to decipher meaning to his lyrics and advertised for a sample of his urine. No wonder the guy was evasive.

Ace said:

... now why would he do a stupid thing like that?

mynameisnotsusan said:[quote]Dylan fans are crazier than P fans Bunch of drugged maniacs almost demanding he lead a revolution! There was a guy who went through Dylans garbage to decipher meaning to his lyrics and advertised for a sample of his urine. No wonder the guy was evasive.[/quote]

no way! are u serious?!

Moonwalkbjrain said:[quote]

mynameisnotsusan said:

The Times



June 18, 2004


Celebrity obsession - it's all garbage
By Nigel Williamson
When the young Bob Dylan has a stalker, he met him face to face


STALKERS go with the territory when you're a celebrity and Bob
Dylan's visit to Britain this week will be accompanied by rigorous security.
Yet back in the early 1970s, when the security was nonexistent, Dylan was
subjected to a bizarre case of stalking. An obsessive fan regularly raided
his dustbins and analysed his garbage in an attempt to decipher his songs
and decode the secrets of the singer's life.


Alan Jules Weberman would nowadays be the subject of a court
order. Back in those more innocent times Dylan offered to meet him for a
chat. He also put in two lengthy and candid phone calls to Weberman, the
tapes of which have long been in private circulation.


Now they are being officially released on CD for the first time.
The tapes make fascinating listening. Dylan tries reason, bullying, mockery
and even appealing to Weberman's better nature. At one point, he tells him
he's going to write a song about him called Pig, and threatens to have
badges made up with the word superimposed on Weberman's face.


"You go through garbage like a pig. You're a pig mentality,"
Dylan taunts. These astonishing exchanges continue for almost an hour.


Born in 1945, Weberman became obsessed with Dylan in the
mid-Sixties while studying at Michigan State University. There he invented
"Dylanology", the name he gave to his detailed textual analysis of his
songs. "I realised it was poetry and required interpretation," he says. "So
I developed the Dylanological Method."


One of his theories was that Dylan had left clues to his alleged
drug addiction scattered throughout his songs. In an attempt to prove this
contention, he placed an advert in a New York newspaper, seeking a specimen
of Dylan's urine.


When that didn't work, he hit upon the idea of going through the
dustbins outside Dylan's unguarded house in Greenwich Village. He didn't
find any evidence of drug addiction. But he did find a discarded letter to
Johnny Cash, a track list of out-takes from a recent album, a postcard from
Dylan's mother and a royalty statement for $149,000.


An excited Weberman then declared that he had invented a new
science called "garbology", pronounced himself the world's greatest
authority on Dylan and started writing newspaper articles analysing what
could be deduced about Dylan's art from what he had found in his dustbin.


Then he formed the Dylan Liberation Front, dedicated to
persuading Dylan to write protest songs again, and had badges made up with
slogans such as "Free Bob Dylan from Himself" and "Dylan's Brain Belongs to
the People".


At first Dylan treated it as a humorous prank. He filled his
dustbins with every noxious substance he could find and even set booby
traps. But Weberman wasn't put off.


Remarkably, at this point Dylan suggested a meeting, even
rolling up his shirt sleeves to show there were no needle marks when
Weberman accused him of being a junkie. Yet the meeting and subsequent phone
calls failed to persuade Weberman to desist.


Yet Dylan appears to have taken advice from his obsessive fan.
One of the most interesting exchanges on the tapes involves Weberman asking
him to play a charity concert. "I'm talking about a benefit concert in
Madison Square Garden, you could play to 20,000 people for free," he urged.
Six months later Dylan appeared at the venue with George Harrison to raise
funds for Bangladesh.


In 1980 - the year that another obsessive rock fan called Mark
Chapman murdered John Lennon - Weberman published a book called My Life in
Garbology. But garbology eventually caught up with him. In the late 1990s he
was sent to prison for supplying drugs. He was convicted on evidence found
in his dustbin.


a.. Bob Dylan: The Classic Interviews Vol 2 - The Weberman Tapes
is out now on Chrome Dreams

Moonwalkbjrain said:

I dunno. Why would he claim that his voice suddenly turning into a soundalike for Kermit the Frog on "Lay, Lady, Lay" was the result of giving up smoking? Why would he fabricate wild tales about his upbringing? He's big on building his mystique. I personally believe the man is a pathological liar.
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