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Printablesosgemini said: PFunkjazz said: U know damn well I'm right. [Edited 9/29/05 11:32am] as a gay person i really didnt appreciate the way you responded..had nothing to do with opinions and everything to do with execution... have a good day there.. o well, not the first time I hurt somebody's feelings  test | |
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How do we know Kanye really said that? Over the years, I have found that most news (or gossip) from UK sites about US artists to be false. | |
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PFunkjazz said: sosgemini said: as a gay person i really didnt appreciate the way you responded..had nothing to do with opinions and everything to do with execution... have a good day there.. o well, not the first time I hurt somebody's feelings There's a difference between hurting somebody's feelings and being a disrespectful, bigoted, ignorant asshole. You were the latter. | |
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MikeMatronik said: Kanye West 'White People Should Make White Music
Rap sensation KANYE WEST has hit out at white musicians who try to sound black, insisting artists should stick to what they do best. West confesses to a diverse listening taste and is even a fan of British rocker FRANZ FERDINAND. He says, "I hate music where white people are trying to sound black. The white music I like is white. "I like Franz Ferdinand. That's the sh*t." http://femalefirst.co.uk/...942004.htm It's not racist. White people trying to sound black is pathetic which is more regular these days as it sells records. To a lot of white kids, white is not cool and artists know this so they mimic black artists. I think it's taken out of context somewhat though. I think it's more to do with white people who think they're black. [Edited 9/30/05 6:31am] | |
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sosgemini said: DavidEye said: Why do so many people dislike Joss Stone? I think she's great.Like Melissa Etheridge pointed out,"She (Joss Stone) is the anti-Britney"
 because she is trying to be something she isnt...she hires that old school lady to "teach her" how to sing soulfully.... come on.....india arie is the anti-britney. 
I don't know what her ulterior motives are,or if she is trying to sound black.I just like her singing and her CD
In this era of no-talent Britneys and J-Los,we definitley need more Joss Stones! | |
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Kanye seems like a big hypocrite to me. He didn't even belong to the stereotypical "black" rap vibe when he was trying to get a record deal. Read this quote from a Time magazine article:
"The first time Kanye West asked the folks at Roc-A-Fella records to let him rap, there was an uncomfortable silence. As a producer, West had churned out hits for Roc-A-Fella's intimidating trio of stars--Jay-Z, Cam'ron and Beanie Siegel--and earned praise for his great ear and tireless ethic. But in 2002 the idea that someone like West could be a successful rapper was faintly absurd. "Kanye wore a pink shirt with the collar sticking up and Gucci loafers," recalls Damon Dash, then Roc-A-Fella CEO. "It was obvious we were not from the same place or cut from the same cloth." It's inevitable...someone who runs their mouth too much, is going to get put in their place eventually. | |
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dustysgirl said: Kanye seems like a big hypocrite to me. He didn't even belong to the stereotypical "black" rap vibe when he was trying to get a record deal. Read this quote from a Time magazine article:
"The first time Kanye West asked the folks at Roc-A-Fella records to let him rap, there was an uncomfortable silence. As a producer, West had churned out hits for Roc-A-Fella's intimidating trio of stars--Jay-Z, Cam'ron and Beanie Siegel--and earned praise for his great ear and tireless ethic. But in 2002 the idea that someone like West could be a successful rapper was faintly absurd. "Kanye wore a pink shirt with the collar sticking up and Gucci loafers," recalls Damon Dash, then Roc-A-Fella CEO. "It was obvious we were not from the same place or cut from the same cloth." It's inevitable...someone who runs their mouth too much, is going to get put in their place eventually. A total hypocrite and a complete wanker too! He's starting to make me more sick than 50 Cent. | |
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dustysgirl said: Kanye seems like a big hypocrite to me. He didn't even belong to the stereotypical "black" rap vibe when he was trying to get a record deal. Read this quote from a Time magazine article:
"The first time Kanye West asked the folks at Roc-A-Fella records to let him rap, there was an uncomfortable silence. As a producer, West had churned out hits for Roc-A-Fella's intimidating trio of stars--Jay-Z, Cam'ron and Beanie Siegel--and earned praise for his great ear and tireless ethic. But in 2002 the idea that someone like West could be a successful rapper was faintly absurd. "Kanye wore a pink shirt with the collar sticking up and Gucci loafers," recalls Damon Dash, then Roc-A-Fella CEO. "It was obvious we were not from the same place or cut from the same cloth." It's inevitable...someone who runs their mouth too much, is going to get put in their place eventually. I'm missing the hypocrisy in this...because he didn't wear saggy jeans...then he's not "hip hop".....remember....Common, The roots..and others are a part of Hip Hop as well.... his arrogant..but this statement isn't hypocritical to me. and I really don't think he said this..... After watching the makin of his Cd...I seriously doubt it. But it keeps up the drama..... | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: PFunkjazz said: o well, not the first time I hurt somebody's feelings There's a difference between hurting somebody's feelings and being a disrespectful, bigoted, ignorant asshole. You were the latter. How's that? I made a comment about the style of music of those singers. Not the guy who posted. He had to tell me I offended him. BTW I was only joking that I hurt his feeeling. That's what the smiley meant. test | |
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PFunkjazz said: RipHer2Shreds said: There's a difference between hurting somebody's feelings and being a disrespectful, bigoted, ignorant asshole. You were the latter. How's that? I made a comment about the style of music of those singers. Not the guy who posted. He had to tell me I offended him. BTW I was only joking that I hurt his feeeling. That's what the smiley meant. First off, I should apologize for the asshole comment. Not normally my style, and I needn't resort to that. Secondly, you really don't see why describing something as "faggy" would offend somebody? Come on, man. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: PFunkjazz said: How's that? I made a comment about the style of music of those singers. Not the guy who posted. He had to tell me I offended him. BTW I was only joking that I hurt his feeeling. That's what the smiley meant. First off, I should apologize for the asshole comment. Not normally my style, and I needn't resort to that. Secondly, you really don't see why describing something as "faggy" would offend somebody? Come on, man. Maybe you have a point, but I wanted you to apologize for your unwarranted insult (though you only went for the noun..LOL). I can't see how I insulted anyone personally, as the context is cleary an aesthetic conceit; not a personal insult. As both Boy George and George Michael are openly gay and the imagery of their music comes off as extremely gay, it seemed approriate. Now if I had called someone on the org "faggy" I could see their reason for being upset. test | |
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PFunkjazz said: RipHer2Shreds said: First off, I should apologize for the asshole comment. Not normally my style, and I needn't resort to that. Secondly, you really don't see why describing something as "faggy" would offend somebody? Come on, man. Maybe you have a point, but I wanted you to apologize for your unwarranted insult (though you only went for the noun..LOL). I can't see how I insulted anyone personally, as the context is cleary an aesthetic conceit; not a personal insult. As both Boy George and George Michael are openly gay and the imagery of their music comes off as extremely gay, it seemed approriate. Now if I had called someone on the org "faggy" I could see their reason for being upset. Huh....so....its ok for someone to say 50 cent is acting very niggerish...as long as its not an orger they are talking about.... just so that I understand what you're saying.  | |
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soulsike said: you guys actually believe that's a real quote? is there video?
this is like that BS wives tale of Lauryn Hill. Never happened. wait for confirmation, this reads like for fallout for the Bush comment... I agree. Whats the source of the story? I havent seen this anywhere other than this thread, and that raggedy, cheap looking website. sounds shakey to me. | |
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MikeMatronik said: Kanye West 'White People Should Make White Music
Rap sensation KANYE WEST has hit out at white musicians who try to sound black, insisting artists should stick to what they do best. West confesses to a diverse listening taste and is even a fan of British rocker FRANZ FERDINAND. He says, "I hate music where white people are trying to sound black. The white music I like is white. "I like Franz Ferdinand. That's the sh*t." http://femalefirst.co.uk/...942004.htm Well if thats the case white people should only play classical and gregorian chants because 90% of music has african roots, or was orginated (most American Music other than Native American) by black people (any thing with a drum). So I guess no Rock and Roll, no Soul, no hip hop, no Blues, no jazz, no country, no salsa, no merenge, no samba, no mambo, no pop, no rockabilly shall I go on. Anything with an electric guitar because Charlie Christenson (a black man was the first to have electric guitar in a band setting. Kanye is losing his mind. I still aint gonna buy that CD either. Save your money and buy Little Brother - "The Minstrel Show" or MF Doom and Danger Mouse - Danger Doom instead. If you dont like hip hop buy That new Family Guy DVD about stewie. But screw Kanye!!! he needs 2 shut up and just keep making beats. "Thinking like the Keys on Prince's piano, we'll be just fine" | |
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Rhondab said: PFunkjazz said: Maybe you have a point, but I wanted you to apologize for your unwarranted insult (though you only went for the noun..LOL). I can't see how I insulted anyone personally, as the context is cleary an aesthetic conceit; not a personal insult. As both Boy George and George Michael are openly gay and the imagery of their music comes off as extremely gay, it seemed approriate. Now if I had called someone on the org "faggy" I could see their reason for being upset. Huh....so....its ok for someone to say 50 cent is acting very niggerish...as long as its not an orger they are talking about.... just so that I understand what you're saying. That's not quite the right analogy. One would say "50 cent's raps are very niggerish" It's a aesthetic conceit not a behavior. Just so you can understand. test | |
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SynthiaRose said: I hate that muthafucka.
Every time he opens his mouth, i want to bash his face in. So, people's musical creations should be consigned to specific genres or "sounds" based on their race.? Uh, OK, you bastard. When can we just be humans in the Universe, goddamnit. Why is everything about race. Race is not my most defining characteristic. I don't negotiate music, political views, or philosophy based on race. I hate this bullshit. [Edited 9/25/05 15:22pm] I can not stand him either he is arrogant...I tell you one thing he better enjoy his time at the top because it is going to be a long fall downward afterwards. He is the most ignorant person I have ever encounter I was watching him in an interview and he was trying to be so profound but never answered the interviewer question. Its okay to express your views but he need to have some wisdom when speaking....What a punk!!!! | |
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pkidwell said: whatever he says, he's still okay to me because his new album is one of the best hip hop albums i have ever heard period
Hip Hop??? I think you need to see the Hip Hop Honor Awards they just showed on VH1 on last week and you will understand what real Hip Hop is!!!!! This not Hip Hop these younglings are putting out today!!!! | |
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Soulchild82 said: MikeMatronik said: Kanye West 'White People Should Make White Music
Rap sensation KANYE WEST has hit out at white musicians who try to sound black, insisting artists should stick to what they do best. West confesses to a diverse listening taste and is even a fan of British rocker FRANZ FERDINAND. He says, "I hate music where white people are trying to sound black. The white music I like is white. "I like Franz Ferdinand. That's the sh*t." http://femalefirst.co.uk/...942004.htm Well if thats the case white people should only play classical and gregorian chants because 90% of music has african roots, or was orginated (most American Music other than Native American) by black people (any thing with a drum). So I guess no Rock and Roll, no Soul, no hip hop, no Blues, no jazz, no country, no salsa, no merenge, no samba, no mambo, no pop, no rockabilly shall I go on. Anything with an electric guitar because Charlie Christenson (a black man was the first to have electric guitar in a band setting. Kanye is losing his mind. I still aint gonna buy that CD either. Save your money and buy Little Brother - "The Minstrel Show" or MF Doom and Danger Mouse - Danger Doom instead. If you dont like hip hop buy That new Family Guy DVD about stewie. But screw Kanye!!! he needs 2 shut up and just keep making beats. most of those genres couldnt have been invented by black people without the instruments and most instruments were invented in europe | |
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PFunkjazz said: Rhondab said: Huh....so....its ok for someone to say 50 cent is acting very niggerish...as long as its not an orger they are talking about.... just so that I understand what you're saying. That's not quite the right analogy. One would say "50 cent's raps are very niggerish" It's a aesthetic conceit not a behavior. Just so you can understand. and the point still remains that your statement was offensive while ya busy correcting me.....lol | |
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hellomoto said: Soulchild82 said: Well if thats the case white people should only play classical and gregorian chants because 90% of music has african roots, or was orginated (most American Music other than Native American) by black people (any thing with a drum). So I guess no Rock and Roll, no Soul, no hip hop, no Blues, no jazz, no country, no salsa, no merenge, no samba, no mambo, no pop, no rockabilly shall I go on. Anything with an electric guitar because Charlie Christenson (a black man was the first to have electric guitar in a band setting. Kanye is losing his mind. I still aint gonna buy that CD either. Save your money and buy Little Brother - "The Minstrel Show" or MF Doom and Danger Mouse - Danger Doom instead. If you dont like hip hop buy That new Family Guy DVD about stewie. But screw Kanye!!! he needs 2 shut up and just keep making beats. most of those genres couldnt have been invented by black people without the instruments and most instruments were invented in europe True many instruments were invented in europe but many genres are the brainchild of black musicians. True the guitar was developed in spain ut black people still invented rock and roll, thats what i'm getting at. "Thinking like the Keys on Prince's piano, we'll be just fine" | |
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