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Thread started 09/24/05 9:42am

starbuck

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Put 'em in your right order!!

So peeps, in what order would you place these musicians, best #1 least # 10

Prince
Frank Zappa
David Bowie
John Lennon
Billy Corgan
George Clinton
Sly Stone
Lou Reed
Brian Wilson
John Fogerty

My very humble excuses I mistook Gerry rafferty for John Fogerty so peeps I'm sorry but it musta been the space cake wink
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Reply #1 posted 09/24/05 9:56am

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My order:

1 Zappa
2.David Bowie
3.John Lennon
4. Prince
5. Brian Wilson
6. Lou Reed
7. John Fogerty
8. George Clinton
9. Sly Stone
10.Billy Corgan

why Zappa is my number one:
he did it all, from freaky underground (Freak Out) to classical music (Yellow Shark). he had an opinion of his own, wouldn't sell out and was one of the first to stand up to the record industry. And he was like a god on guitar

Bowie is my # 2 cuz he's an innovator. he brought us so many colours and sounds he deserves a star on the walk of fame in heaven.

John Lennon created a fantastic body of music and influenced everything that came after him. he's the guru of pop.
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Reply #2 posted 09/24/05 10:02am

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Prince
John Lennon
Brian Wilson
David Bowie
Sly Stone
Zappa
George Clinton
Lou Reed
Billy Corgan

Who's Gerry Rafferty ?
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Reply #3 posted 09/24/05 10:04am

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David Bowie
Brian Wilson
Prince
Lou Reed
John Lennon
Sly Stone
Frank Zappa
John Fogerty
George Clinton
Billy Corgan



John Fogerty edit
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Reply #4 posted 09/24/05 10:07am

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Dewrede said:



Who's Gerry Rafferty ?


ever hear the song Baker Street by the Foo Fighters?
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Reply #5 posted 09/24/05 10:10am

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Dewrede said:


Who's Gerry Rafferty ?

"Baker Street" nod And "Right Down the Line" nod
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Reply #6 posted 09/24/05 10:17am

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I wanna see your 10?
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Reply #7 posted 09/24/05 10:18am

minneapolisgen
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lilgish said:

I wanna see your 10?

Who me?
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Reply #8 posted 09/24/05 10:19am

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minneapolisgenius said:

lilgish said:

I wanna see your 10?

Who me?


yup, and jimmy can't be no.1
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Reply #9 posted 09/24/05 10:23am

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lilgish said:

minneapolisgenius said:


Who me?


yup, and jimmy can't be no.1

lol Well, I have to use what's given to me right? pout

Anyway, I guess this would be mine, but is this based on pure musicianship? Songwriting ability? My personal favorites? confuse

David Bowie (I'm really in Bowie at the moment, so he's first)
Prince
John Lennon
Sly Stone
Frank Zappa
George Clinton
Lou Reed
Billy Corgan
Gerry Rafferty
Brian Wilson
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Reply #10 posted 09/24/05 10:25am

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minneapolisgenius said:

lilgish said:



yup, and jimmy can't be no.1

lol Well, I have to use what's given to me right? pout

Anyway, I guess this would be mine, but is this based on pure musicianship? Songwriting ability? My personal favorites? confuse



whatever you like at the moment. I'm contunuously altering my top 3 one week it's Beatles, next it's Bowie right now it's Zappa
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Reply #11 posted 09/24/05 10:26am

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minneapolisgenius said:

lilgish said:



yup, and jimmy can't be no.1

lol Well, I have to use what's given to me right? pout

Anyway, I guess this would be mine, but is this based on pure musicianship? Songwriting ability? My personal favorites? confuse

David Bowie (I'm really in Bowie at the moment, so he's first)
Prince
John Lennon
Sly Stone
Frank Zappa
George Clinton
Lou Reed
Billy Corgan
Gerry Rafferty
Brian Wilson



you got Brian way too low.
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starbuck said:

minneapolisgenius said:


lol Well, I have to use what's given to me right? pout

Anyway, I guess this would be mine, but is this based on pure musicianship? Songwriting ability? My personal favorites? confuse



whatever you like at the moment. I'm contunuously altering my top 3 one week it's Beatles, next it's Bowie right now it's Zappa

So yeah, that's what I posted above. Favorites.

And I was just going to ask why Gerry Rafferty was in there and I saw you edit. falloff Don't get me wrong, there are a few of his songs that I absolutely love, but it just seemed out of place. And I'd keep John Fogerty where Gerry was anyway.
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Reply #13 posted 09/24/05 10:29am

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minneapolisgenius said:

starbuck said:




whatever you like at the moment. I'm contunuously altering my top 3 one week it's Beatles, next it's Bowie right now it's Zappa

So yeah, that's what I posted above. Favorites.

And I was just going to ask why Gerry Rafferty was in there and I saw you edit. falloff Don't get me wrong, there are a few of his songs that I absolutely love, but it just seemed out of place. And I'd keep John Fogerty where Gerry was anyway.



I agree, I started doubting, but I wanted to put in Fogerty and my mind told me to type Rafferty lol
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lilgish said:

minneapolisgenius said:


lol Well, I have to use what's given to me right? pout

Anyway, I guess this would be mine, but is this based on pure musicianship? Songwriting ability? My personal favorites? confuse

David Bowie (I'm really in Bowie at the moment, so he's first)
Prince
John Lennon
Sly Stone
Frank Zappa
George Clinton
Lou Reed
Billy Corgan
Gerry Rafferty
Brian Wilson



you got Brian way too low.

Nope. lol Overrated IMO. biggrin I don't get the sudden Brian Wilson hype that's suddenly popped up over the past couple of years actually. hmmm I just have never been able to get into the Beach Boys, let alone the holy "Pet Sounds" album. I don't have Smile though, but I doubt that would change my mind. I just don't like that whole sound. Unless Smile is COMPLETELY different from anything else he's done.
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Reply #15 posted 09/24/05 10:35am

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minneapolisgenius said:

lilgish said:




you got Brian way too low.

Nope. lol Overrated IMO. biggrin I don't get the sudden Brian Wilson hype that's suddenly popped up over the past couple of years actually. hmmm I just have never been able to get into the Beach Boys, let alone the holy "Pet Sounds" album. I don't have Smile though, but I doubt that would change my mind. I just don't like that whole sound. Unless Smile is COMPLETELY different from anything else he's done.



Minneapolis, Smile is very different it's a trip thru american history. The music is adventurous and flowing. it's breathtakingly beautiful. There's no way you can compare it to the 60's Smiley Smile it's so different. just try it, you won't be disappointed
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Reply #16 posted 09/24/05 10:38am

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minneapolisgenius said:


Nope. lol Overrated IMO. biggrin I don't get the sudden Brian Wilson hype that's suddenly popped up over the past couple of years actually. hmmm I just have never been able to get into the Beach Boys, let alone the holy "Pet Sounds" album. I don't have Smile though, but I doubt that would change my mind. I just don't like that whole sound. Unless Smile is COMPLETELY different from anything else he's done.


hype? beyond Pet Sounds being in top ten lists.

I mean 15 years ago the Beach Boys were being laughed at with the John Stamos/full house shit. The man is a pop genuis and that's how I made my list.
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Reply #17 posted 09/24/05 10:41am

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nod awesome harmonies
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Reply #18 posted 09/24/05 10:47am

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Since you said "musicians", if I had to do a recording session...

Frank Zappa (#1 for the ability to also do orchestral/symphonic works)
Sly Stone (vocals, keyboards and songwriting)
Prince (vocals, various rhythm section instruments & songwriting)
David Bowie (vocals & songwriting)
Brian Wilson (for songwriting & vocal arrangements)
John Lennon (songwriting)
George Clinton (grooves & "out there" lyrics)
John Fogerty (songwriting)
Lou Reed (songwriting)
Billy Corgan (? - I know who he is, i'd just have no use for him in this situation)

...Gerry Rafferty would have been more useful as a "musician".

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Reply #19 posted 09/24/05 11:14am

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lilgish said:

minneapolisgenius said:


Nope. lol Overrated IMO. biggrin I don't get the sudden Brian Wilson hype that's suddenly popped up over the past couple of years actually. hmmm I just have never been able to get into the Beach Boys, let alone the holy "Pet Sounds" album. I don't have Smile though, but I doubt that would change my mind. I just don't like that whole sound. Unless Smile is COMPLETELY different from anything else he's done.


hype? beyond Pet Sounds being in top ten lists.

I mean 15 years ago the Beach Boys were being laughed at with the John Stamos/full house shit. The man is a pop genuis and that's how I made my list.

lol Who cares what John Stamos laughs at? lol I don't agree with the pop genius thing, but I guess that's just my opinion. shrug I think the Beach Boys have their own unique sound. No one else sounds like them, and you can recognize who it is right away. I just have never, even since I was a little kid, liked that particular sound. Believe me I've tried, even recently, to see if I was just being stubborn/hasty in my opinion about them. But no, I still don't get it. lol
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starbuck said:

minneapolisgenius said:


Nope. lol Overrated IMO. biggrin I don't get the sudden Brian Wilson hype that's suddenly popped up over the past couple of years actually. hmmm I just have never been able to get into the Beach Boys, let alone the holy "Pet Sounds" album. I don't have Smile though, but I doubt that would change my mind. I just don't like that whole sound. Unless Smile is COMPLETELY different from anything else he's done.



Minneapolis, Smile is very different it's a trip thru american history. The music is adventurous and flowing. it's breathtakingly beautiful. There's no way you can compare it to the 60's Smiley Smile it's so different. just try it, you won't be disappointed

hmm If it sounds nothing like the Beach Boys, then yeah, maybe I will like it. lol
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minneapolisgenius said:[quote]

lilgish said:



I think the Beach Boys have their own unique sound. No one else sounds like them, and you can recognize who it is right away. I just have never, even since I was a little kid, liked that particular sound. Believe me I've tried, even recently, to see if I was just being stubborn/hasty in my opinion about them. But no, I still don't get it. lol
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I have that with the BeeGees, I just can't seem to get into their sound
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starbuck said:[quote]

minneapolisgenius said:

lilgish said:



I think the Beach Boys have their own unique sound. No one else sounds like them, and you can recognize who it is right away. I just have never, even since I was a little kid, liked that particular sound. Believe me I've tried, even recently, to see if I was just being stubborn/hasty in my opinion about them. But no, I still don't get it. lol
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I have that with the BeeGees, I just can't seem to get into their sound

Their early stuff, or the disco stuff? biggrin
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minneapolisgenius said:

But no, I still don't get it. lol


hrmph You'd better shape up and give BW his props or i'll have to give Kid Zeppelin your home address.


cool


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theAudience said:

minneapolisgenius said:

But no, I still don't get it. lol


hrmph You'd better shape up and give BW his props or i'll have to give Kid Zeppelin your home address.


cool


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lol I probably already know Kid Zeppelin from the Zeppelin board. lol

And no, I still don't get it. hmph! Well, I'll give him props that YOU like him. And many others here, but I don't. mr.green
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minneapolisgenius said:

starbuck said:




I have that with the BeeGees, I just can't seem to get into their sound

Their early stuff, or the disco stuff? biggrin



I like the saturday night fever soundtrack, but that is all. Believe I tried but to no avail
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Reply #26 posted 09/24/05 2:07pm

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you got Brian way too low.

Nope. lol Overrated IMO. biggrin I don't get the sudden Brian Wilson hype that's suddenly popped up over the past couple of years actually. hmmm I just have never been able to get into the Beach Boys, let alone the holy "Pet Sounds" album. I don't have Smile though, but I doubt that would change my mind. I just don't like that whole sound. Unless Smile is COMPLETELY different from anything else he's done.

pout It's over now.
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RipHer2Shreds said:

minneapolisgenius said:


Nope. lol Overrated IMO. biggrin I don't get the sudden Brian Wilson hype that's suddenly popped up over the past couple of years actually. hmmm I just have never been able to get into the Beach Boys, let alone the holy "Pet Sounds" album. I don't have Smile though, but I doubt that would change my mind. I just don't like that whole sound. Unless Smile is COMPLETELY different from anything else he's done.

pout It's over now.

tehehe biggrin
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Who's Zappa? confused
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My Order (Just personal preference)

Sly Stone-master on multiple instruments, fantastic songwriter, extremely good (and highly underrated) arranger and producer, great idiosyncratic singer. All round badass cool
Prince-again, master of multiple instruments, great songwriter, arranger, ok producer, great singer. Not quite as much of a badass as Sly
Frank Zappa-The ultimate iconoclast, master composer when he wants to be and at times masterful lyricist (rarely does he combine the two as effectively as many other great songwriters though and most of the time I think his music would be better if he just shut up), next to nothing as a singer, probably has the largest most varied catalogue with more extremes of brilliance and crap than anyone. Oh yeah, master guitar player and badass as well
John Lennon-As A Beatle, fantastic. Without the others, he still had a couple masterpieces up his sleeve, but also made a lot of crap. Good guitar and piano player, great singer, superb lyricist and songwriter.
George Clinton-P-funk as a whole outranks almost all of these guys in my mind. But George was really just the spokesman, he had a lot of great musicians and singers to thank for the sound and nearly every song/arrangment was made collaboratively. Withouth Bernie, Bootsy, Eddie, particularly, I think he would have been lost in the wilderness. However, a great songwriter (or co-writer), fantastic lyricist and producer, and a great "conceptualist".
Brian Wilson-Insanely good arranger and composer, one of the all-time masters of harmony, great bass player (competant on several other instruments as well as far as I know, great singer. However, there's just something slightly cheesy or off-putting about a lot of the beach boys' music.
David Bowie-the most chameleonic, at least competant on several instruments, sometimes great songwriter, not really a stylistic innovator though (despite effecting tons of styles), voice good but at times grating. I dig 'im, but I think he's very overrated around here

I don't much care for the other guys confused
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