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Sam Cooke, A Change Gon' Come may be the best song ever written.

The more I listen to this song the more I think this may be the best song ever recorded, by anybody. The singing is amazing, the soul and gospel joy in the melody is beyond beautiful. This is a flawless song with a universal message, that even the hardened soul of a Five Percenter can't deny. Pure soul, a great message, and song writing, flawless and jaw dropping in its magnifying joy.

I think this is the best song ever. It never gets boring, never gets old. Is more relevant now. The single most beautiful song ever.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #1 posted 09/21/05 3:36pm

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'Tis a good one

But not beutiful to me.
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Reply #2 posted 09/21/05 3:47pm

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Better than "What's Goin' On"? I can't go there with you.
"But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois --
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Reply #3 posted 09/21/05 3:51pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

The more I listen to this song the more I think this may be the best song ever recorded, by anybody. The singing is amazing, the soul and gospel joy in the melody is beyond beautiful. This is a flawless song with a universal message, that even the hardened soul of a Five Percenter can't deny. Pure soul, a great message, and song writing, flawless and jaw dropping in its magnifying joy.

I think this is the best song ever. It never gets boring, never gets old. Is more relevant now. The single most beautiful song ever.


It's funny, just the remark of prince in under the cherry moon made me buy a sam cooke album. Now, there're about twelve in my collection.
The singing of Sam Cooke always sounds natural and 'easy'. But no one can immitate him.
I used to listen to Sam Cooke when I was a student and was living in a students house. Me and my (former) girlfriend have some good memories of that period..july, warm, and, uhh, well, that's private. wink
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Reply #4 posted 09/21/05 3:53pm

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christopheries said:

2freaky4church1 said:

The more I listen to this song the more I think this may be the best song ever recorded, by anybody. The singing is amazing, the soul and gospel joy in the melody is beyond beautiful. This is a flawless song with a universal message, that even the hardened soul of a Five Percenter can't deny. Pure soul, a great message, and song writing, flawless and jaw dropping in its magnifying joy.

I think this is the best song ever. It never gets boring, never gets old. Is more relevant now. The single most beautiful song ever.


It's funny, just the remark of prince in under the cherry moon made me buy a sam cooke album. Now, there're about twelve in my collection.
The singing of Sam Cooke always sounds natural and 'easy'. But no one can immitate him.
I used to listen to Sam Cooke when I was a student and was living in a students house. Me and my (former) girlfriend have some good memories of that period..july, warm, and, uhh, well, that's private. wink


Beleive it or not Grady Harrell (little known 80'r rnb singer) could imitate him pefectly, like on "sticks and stones" which out and out sounds like Sam cooke from the grave.
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Reply #5 posted 09/21/05 3:58pm

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thesexofit said:

christopheries said:



It's funny, just the remark of prince in under the cherry moon made me buy a sam cooke album. Now, there're about twelve in my collection.
The singing of Sam Cooke always sounds natural and 'easy'. But no one can immitate him.
I used to listen to Sam Cooke when I was a student and was living in a students house. Me and my (former) girlfriend have some good memories of that period..july, warm, and, uhh, well, that's private. wink


Beleive it or not Grady Harrell (little known 80'r rnb singer) could imitate him pefectly, like on "sticks and stones" which out and out sounds like Sam cooke from the grave.


Hmm, never heard of him. I shall look for a record. (hope it won't spoil the memories back in the days, anyways, thanks for the suggestion)
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Reply #6 posted 09/21/05 3:59pm

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No it's not. God, I hate how people think that a song they like has to be the GREATEST SONG EVER!
NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE.
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Reply #7 posted 09/21/05 4:00pm

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I love this song, not fond of the start, but as a whole this song is in my top 100 greatest smile

thumbs up! great song!

Keenmeister
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Reply #8 posted 09/21/05 4:01pm

funkpill

thesexofit said:

christopheries said:



It's funny, just the remark of prince in under the cherry moon made me buy a sam cooke album. Now, there're about twelve in my collection.
The singing of Sam Cooke always sounds natural and 'easy'. But no one can immitate him.
I used to listen to Sam Cooke when I was a student and was living in a students house. Me and my (former) girlfriend have some good memories of that period..july, warm, and, uhh, well, that's private. wink


Beleive it or not Grady Harrell (little known 80'r rnb singer) could imitate him pefectly, like on "sticks and stones" which out and out sounds like Sam cooke from the grave.

nod Agree...Grady Harrell came close sounding like Sam...

He even had Sam's former gospel group,

The Soul Stirrers, singing background on 'Sticks & Stones'....
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Reply #9 posted 09/21/05 4:06pm

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funkpill said:

thesexofit said:



Beleive it or not Grady Harrell (little known 80'r rnb singer) could imitate him pefectly, like on "sticks and stones" which out and out sounds like Sam cooke from the grave.

nod Agree...Grady Harrell came close sounding like Sam...

He even had Sam's former gospel group,

The Soul Stirrers, singing background on 'Sticks & Stones'....



Wow, really? My dad thought it was sam cooke when he heard me playing it a while back, as my dad is a fan of sam's.
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Reply #10 posted 09/21/05 4:32pm

funkpill

thesexofit said:

funkpill said:


nod Agree...Grady Harrell came close sounding like Sam...

He even had Sam's former gospel group,

The Soul Stirrers, singing background on 'Sticks & Stones'....



Wow, really? My dad thought it was sam cooke when he heard me playing it a while back, as my dad is a fan of sam's.

Check out Sam's early stuff with The Soul Stirrers...

You'll be amaze....biggrin



Proud owner of this 3 cd set...cool
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Reply #11 posted 09/21/05 4:41pm

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One of my favourite songs. Absolutely beautiful.

I prefer Otis Redding's version though. Just more into his rawer voice i think. Perhaps because i heard Otis' version first.
"London, i've adopted a name that has no pronounciation.... is that cool with you?"

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Reply #12 posted 09/21/05 5:17pm

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Leela James' cover of it is pretty damn good.
"But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois --
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Reply #13 posted 09/21/05 7:08pm

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I love this song...it has a lot of pain in it and when he sings it you can sought of feel whatever pain he was going through at that time, and the people of that time. Whenever I hear it, it reminds me of the movie "Malcolm X" because it is played right before the assassination scene, where somehow you get the feeling that Malcolm knew he was gonna die that day...that was some deep stuff...

I always listen to it when i'm frustrated with my life or having a rough period.
I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #14 posted 09/21/05 7:38pm

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Maybe not the greatest, but definitely a great song.

Some other decent versions...
Solomon Burke
Al Green
Otis Redding
Bobby Womack



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Reply #15 posted 09/21/05 7:40pm

TheRealFiness

2freaky4church1 said:

The more I listen to this song the more I think this may be the best song ever recorded, by anybody. The singing is amazing, the soul and gospel joy in the melody is beyond beautiful. This is a flawless song with a universal message, that even the hardened soul of a Five Percenter can't deny. Pure soul, a great message, and song writing, flawless and jaw dropping in its magnifying joy.

I think this is the best song ever. It never gets boring, never gets old. Is more relevant now. The single most beautiful song ever.



the fuck u know about the 5 percent nation.... not a fuckin thing..
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Reply #16 posted 09/21/05 8:25pm

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Aw shit! Sparks about to fly!
"But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois --
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Reply #17 posted 09/21/05 10:06pm

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Fantastic...chilling....and brilliant. Sam was inspired to write it after hearing Bob Dylan's "Blowin In The Wind"....Sam heard Bob's song and thought that the song sounded like a Black person should've written it because it spoke so much to our struggle....So he went home and penned "A Change Is Gonna Come"....Awesome....BTW on Sam Cooke's "Live at The Copa" he does a great rendition of "Blowin In The Wind".
We run tings, tings nah run we....

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Reply #18 posted 09/22/05 11:09am

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Finess, I know a little about everything..lol
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #19 posted 09/22/05 11:55am

ThreadBare

theAudience said:[quote]Maybe not the greatest, but definitely a great song.

Some other decent versions...
Solomon Burke
Al Green
Otis Redding
Bobby Womack



tA

peace Tribal Disorder


Aretha Franklin added her touch to it, too.

Womack had an advantage, wouldn't ya say? wink

Also dig Terence Trent D'arby, as he was back then, who covered this with Booker T & the MG's.

Leela James' version ain't bad neeva.

But my favorite version is Al Green's. His cover of it during a Rock museum concert was the BOMB. Hit the high note above the high note.... If you know what I mean... omg

Killed it.
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Reply #20 posted 09/22/05 12:12pm

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ThreadBare said:[quote]

theAudience said:

Maybe not the greatest, but definitely a great song.

Some other decent versions...
Solomon Burke
Al Green
Otis Redding
Bobby Womack



tA

peace Tribal Disorder


Aretha Franklin added her touch to it, too.

Womack had an advantage, wouldn't ya say? wink

Also dig Terence Trent D'arby, as he was back then, who covered this with Booker T & the MG's.

Leela James' version ain't bad neeva.

But my favorite version is Al Green's. His cover of it during a Rock museum concert was the BOMB. Hit the high note above the high note.... If you know what I mean... omg

Killed it.



nod
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Reply #21 posted 09/22/05 12:14pm

kisscamille

2freaky4church1 said:

The more I listen to this song the more I think this may be the best song ever recorded, by anybody. The singing is amazing, the soul and gospel joy in the melody is beyond beautiful. This is a flawless song with a universal message, that even the hardened soul of a Five Percenter can't deny. Pure soul, a great message, and song writing, flawless and jaw dropping in its magnifying joy.

I think this is the best song ever. It never gets boring, never gets old. Is more relevant now. The single most beautiful song ever.


I'm a big Sam Cooke fan. I love this song too. I can't say it's the best song ever, but it's a damn fine one and he has loads of them.
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Reply #22 posted 09/22/05 1:25pm

funkpill

ThreadBare said:[quote]

theAudience said:

Maybe not the greatest, but definitely a great song.

Some other decent versions...
Solomon Burke
Al Green
Otis Redding
Bobby Womack



tA

peace Tribal Disorder


Aretha Franklin added her touch to it, too.

Womack had an advantage, wouldn't ya say? wink

Also dig Terence Trent D'arby, as he was back then, who covered this with Booker T & the MG's.

Leela James' version ain't bad neeva.

But my favorite version is Al Green's. His cover of it during a Rock museum concert was the BOMB. Hit the high note above the high note.... If you know what I mean... omg

Killed it.

nod Yeah..I remember seeing that performance....

Al did the song justice.... biggrin
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Reply #23 posted 09/22/05 1:33pm

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funkpill said:

ThreadBare said:

theAudience said:

Maybe not the greatest, but definitely a great song.

Some other decent versions...
Solomon Burke
Al Green
Otis Redding
Bobby Womack



tA

peace Tribal Disorder



Aretha Franklin added her touch to it, too.

Womack had an advantage, wouldn't ya say? wink

Also dig Terence Trent D'arby, as he was back then, who covered this with Booker T & the MG's.

Leela James' version ain't bad neeva.

But my favorite version is Al Green's. His cover of it during a Rock museum concert was the BOMB. Hit the high note above the high note.... If you know what I mean... omg

Killed it.

nod Yeah..I remember seeing that performance....

Al did the song justice.... biggrin


That's the exact Al Green version I was thinking of. wink


tA


peace Tribal Disorder

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Reply #24 posted 09/22/05 2:22pm

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It's an amazing song, one of my favourite songs ever. My favourite versions are the ones by Sananda/Terence Trent D'Arby and Al Green worship
With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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TheRealFiness said:

2freaky4church1 said:

The more I listen to this song the more I think this may be the best song ever recorded, by anybody. The singing is amazing, the soul and gospel joy in the melody is beyond beautiful. This is a flawless song with a universal message, that even the hardened soul of a Five Percenter can't deny. Pure soul, a great message, and song writing, flawless and jaw dropping in its magnifying joy.

I think this is the best song ever. It never gets boring, never gets old. Is more relevant now. The single most beautiful song ever.



the fuck u know about the 5 percent nation.... not a fuckin thing..

whoa!! u not going off on the chick r ya?
I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #26 posted 09/22/05 3:46pm

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Okay, this is a wild tangent, but I realized that "A Change Gonna Come" takes similar sentiments of Hamlet's "To Be Or Not To Be" Soliloquy and sums the whole thing up in one short passage:

"It's Been Too Hard Livin',
But I'm Afraid To Die,
'Cause I Don't Know What's Up There,
Beyond The Sky...."


Music as Cliff Notes !

I dunno, just thinkin'.... I'm tired, I gotta home... lol



...
" I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout
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Reply #27 posted 09/22/05 4:20pm

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I like the honesty of that lyric. Not like Prince, where he thinks he knows everything about heaven and hell.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #28 posted 09/23/05 5:06pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

I like the honesty of that lyric. Not like Prince, where he thinks he knows everything about heaven and hell.



"It's Been Too Hard Livin',
But I'm Afraid To Die,
'Cause I Don't Know What's Up There,
Beyond The Sky...." "

It is the fact that Sam was a Gospel singer and his father was a preacher and he still had his doubts.


You don't know much about Prince if you think he knows everything about heven and hell. If you listen to his spritual music over the years sometime he feels certain and sometimes he does not sound so sure.

He has wrestled and waffled with his spirtualliy for years. You can hear him trying to convince himself in his lyrics and who knows what goes on in real life.
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Reply #29 posted 09/23/05 5:39pm

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gerald alston of the manhattans sings the definitive version...that man can sing, as they say...flat-footed!
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