Martinelli said:

Music better than Ray of Light? Doubt it. Music's a good album, but Ray of Light was just amazing. As a pop album, I felt it had an edge that was missing in most releases in the mainstream. Music, to me, is an electronica album, only a little poppier. I like it alot, but nowhere near as much as Ray of Light.

Someone prob already said it, but is Madonna doing a Kylie album?

HamsterHuey said:

if Kylie and do dance music about Kabbalah.

plus it's Madonna just redoing what she did in 83

I say, lay off the hotpants!

HamsterHuey said:

Why.? It's not like Madonna's body still isn't great!

Now her face....

GangstaFam said:

U misundertood:

the tracks that kylie did 4 Ultimate Kylie where leaked...

GangstaFam said:

HamsterHuey said:

Tommy The Tampon Says; Don't Do It!

HamsterHuey said:

huey

why do profanate her madgesty????

VH1 is now airing a commerical to download the HungUP clip for your phone using the clip plus the the clip from the new documentry.

Is there gonna be a Reinvention Tour DVD releasing in conjunction with this?

MikeMatronik said:

Cuz it is easy and I love pulling the legs of fags?

MikeMatronik said:

Aah.... good to see they decided to put the album version on the album.....

HamsterHuey said:

You love pulling fags period... right?

MartyMcFly said:

That remark is too stupid to even respond to, actually.

But... you just did, didn't you...?

UndercovaBrotha said:

Nobody knows for sure.There is the tour documentary 'I'm Going To Tell You A Secret',which is tentatively scheduled to be released on DVD in December.But I predict that those plans could change.Once the promotion gears up for 'Confessions On A Dancefloor',it's likely that Madonna and her camp will be focused exclusively on that.

Most likely,anything connected with the Re-Invention tour will be released sometime in 2006.

newskin69 said:

'Ray Of Light' is the better album of course,but I think 'Music' is probably Madonna's most musically adventurous album.It's hard to describe many of the songs,so many styles are mixed together.The title track is pure electro-funk inspired by the dance music of the early 80s..."Impressive Instant" is a techno disco thumper,very edgy and bold...."Don't Tell Me" dares to combine country pop music with electronica..."Paradise (Not For Me)" is effectively haunting and moody...most of these songs are unlike anything she had ever done previously.

What's interesting about 'Music' is,it starts off as a fun dance album.But after the first three songs,it becomes a more serious affair.The tempo becomes slower,and the lyrics become more intropective and much more interesting ("What It Feels Like For A Girl" is one of her greatest songwriting efforts,imo).The album is actually very soothing to listen to,a perfect album to chill out to.

newskin69 said:

I really like 'American Life'.I think it's simply the album that Madonna needed to make at that point in her life.She needed to bare her soul,speak out on issues that were affecting her,and deal with her demons.Some people don't wanna see a rich,multimillionaire celebrity whine about their problems (lol),which is why many folks didn't care for the lyrics (which were,admittedly,self-referential and sometimes preachy).But it's a strong,deeply personal album containing several truly great tracks."Nobody Knows Me","Nothing Fails","Easy Ride","Love Profusion" and "Mother And Father" are top-notch Madonna songs.

Well said DavidEye.

DavidEye said:

I disagree. It wasn't the message of AL or M's need to bare her soul that made AL suck. It was the middle school lyrics. It's not because they're preachy or whiney that I think they suck, it's because they're juvenile and seem to have been jotted down on a napkin in a bar or something and a HUGE step back from RoL.

Easily Madonna's worst album ever. And it's not Mirwais' fault, either. In fact, the only interesting thing about many of the songs is their SOUND.

Xagain said:

American Life is a record on first listen sounds stripped, simple and un-eventful. I can tell you that after listening to it a couple time training for a marathon that it was the only record I listened to for 4 months. I found it to be totally intoxicating with each listen. A historical fact for music lovers(not just pop music, but all accross the board music lovers): If a record is instantly good on a first listen, it tends to wear out quickly. A record that takes a little getting used to because it's different and not so easily digested tends to stick around a lot more and have a bigger impact on us. People hated that record because they didn't like it on the first listen and they put it down. That's because most of Madonnas buying public love Madonna for being pure pop. They can't handle progression. Music lovers are different. We welcome change. Without it, pop music would still sound like Elvis...boring.

mschirmer said:

I REALLY hate it when people think it's the listener's fault for thinking an album is crap. I love music. I can handle change. I even like Madonna much of the time, but I can't handle her singing the line "I'm not religious but I want to pray" over and over like it's some profound line. Or pretending "Iiiiii'm so stupid. Stupider than stupid" represents great lyrics.

Madonna interrupted the "AL" project to do other things and it shows. The songs seemed to have been written in 10 minutes. I've listened to it enough times to know that it sucks.

I am looking forward to "Confessions" though. I don't hate Madonna, I just hate about 1/2 of "American Life." After turning so many of my friends on to "Ray of Light" I was embarrassed by "AL."

Xagain said:

I think it's comical that people have this quasi-intellectual need for everything to be profound that comes out of Madonnas mouth. So what? So they can drink coffee and talk about the hidden meanings and the amazing barriers she's broken???? She made a record that wasn't anywhere near what the public demands from her. That's not her problem. She's an artist and the record speaks volumes of personal shit that she needed to wade through. I agree that some of the lyrics are remedial and freshman-ish, but when has Madonna been super deep???? IE: This Used To Be My Playground, Rain, Vogue...which is a rip off of Malcom McLaren's Deep in Vogue....Madonna's not a poet. She's a fantastic pop culture machine. I love her, but to think she's spitting out deep shit is stupider than stupid.

mschirmer said:

I agree with much of what you said.As I pointed out above,'American Life' is the album that Madonna needed to make,at that point in her life.She needed to reflect on her superstardom and what it all means.She needed to do some soul-searching.If some folks think the lyrics are silly and juvenile,then so be it.Part of being an artist is being true to yourself,regardless if the fans will "get it" or not.'American Life' is Madonna's 'Lovesexy'.An artist won't always be in sync with the public,but they should also be in sync with themselves.

Xagain said:

But what about the lyrics to songs like "X-Static Process","Easy Ride","Intervention" and "Nobody Knows Me"? I think those are some of her best written songs.With strong songs like that,I can tolerate the occasional silly line (such as the rap in "American Life",which was obviously meant to be irony).

Since we are discussing AL I have to express my opinion:

This was the album I wanted her to make. It's a very cerebral album because you get the idea that she didn't organize her thoughts and poured all her feelings and sadness into it. It's her most cathartic album until now.

Guess she needed to clean her soul from some of her issues like her childhood or fame...

I feel very close to this album because it came out when I embarked in the most dark period of my life...and It proved to be one of the things that made me hold unto reality.

Tori and Madonna saved me from suicide!

Also some tunes fit perfectly into my life story!

That's the magic of Madonna...she connects with us!

DavidEye said:

You're close. I'd say Like A Prayer is her Lovesexy and American Life is her Rainbow Children.

MikeMatronik said:

Tori can definitely get you through your shit, that's for sure.