I got a question for the brothers and sisters around here.
Who are in your opinions the best 'white' artists? Are there white artists you really dislike?

I'm just curious.

Eraserhead said:

wow shouldn't that question be irrelivent.....well since you asked i like the group Tool, David Bowie, NIN, Norah Jones, Elvis Presley, The Beatles, The Doors, man this question needs to be answered when i have had more sleep.....

Odd question but...

REALLY like:
Fiona Apple
Nikka Costa
Teena Marie
Courtney Love
Rolling Stones
Stone Temple Pilots
AudioSlave
Aerosmith


Like enough to own some music:
Beth Hart
Sheryl Crow
Green Day
U2
Madonna
Radiohead
John Mellencamp
Wendy & Lisa
Elton John
Billy Joel
Steppenwolf
Beck
The Doors
Led Zeppelin
Hall & Oates
Simple Minds
Pat Benatar
Blondie
Eric Clapton

Fuck, there's too many to mention.


GREATLY dislike:
The fluffy pop muufuckas... Brittany Spears, Justin Timberlake, the Simpson girls, shit like that...

Now what is this thread supposed to mean anyway?




.
[Edited 9/17/05 1:35am]

It's a fair question. I would list Ani Difranco, Bob Dylan, Radiohead, Led Zeppelin, Carole King, Joni Mitchell,and Yes as some of my favorites regardless of the color. To a lesser extent I like some of Bowie, the Beatles, the Beastie Boys, Bjork, Bruce (Springsteen) and anyone whose name begins with a "B" it seems. (Honestly it just worked out that way ).....

.... and the list goes on..... Clapton, the Police, Pink Floyd, Nirvana, even Madonna (atleast up through Bedtime Stories).

Kenny G and Michael Bolton are prolly the only white artists I despise.
[Edited 9/17/05 2:40am]

pretty much listen to all music. The only artist that I totally would depised regardless of their race is : Britney, Justin Tiberlake, Kenny G, The Simpsons Sisters, Kylie, and the Dixie Chicks.

I didn't even know the Simpson Sisters sang

Maggie & Lisa


Are they Prince related?

CalhounSq said:

For example: I really like 'what's going on' from Marvin Gaye, great music from a great artist, but I can't relate to all the songs (ex: Inner City Blues).
Stevie Wonders 'Big Brother' is also a song I very much like, but again, I can't relate to it much since I'm a 23 year old white boy from Europe

I'm also a huge Public Enemy fan, for their guts and great music.

I think it's that I learn a lot from those artist and their songs about how America has treated, is treating the african americans. I'm kinda interested in the culture.
So I wanted to know if African Americans feel the same way about white artists.
It maybe sounds stupid, but like I said, I'm just curious about it.

Kim69 said:

i thought Norah Jones was half indian.

Eraserhead said:

Shouldn't the title read African Americans and Caucasian music.

Just kidding, It's fine to say Black. I've never heard a Black person use that to describe themselves. Real African-Americans should be people who are born in Africa and come to the U.S. African American is some made up shit Jessie I think wanted everyone to use that came out of Afro-American.

Afro American.....what if Black power woulda happened a few years later, it woulda been Jheri curl-American, High Top Fade-American

Flick of the Switch is a classic underated gem btw, don't sleep on it.

lilgish said:

trouble maker



black is the most accurate....to describe race....

simply put. there shouldnt be any "Color lines" or seperation of music by Race. yes i know it exists.but i think its time we put a stop to it.im not sayin we all hold hands and sing we shall overcome n shit but Music is what brings all kinds of people together.

No doubt about it Black.

It is true what you say. You might think otherwise because of this topic, but I try not to think in colors.

Eraserhead said:

Nah, doesn't sound stupid

white music?

you mean like broadway showtunes, mozart, beethoven, polka and stuff like that?
[Edited 9/17/05 12:19pm]

that's weird! I am listening to my Blue Eye'd Soul CD right now

I only don't like Hard Rock and Metal...Nothing against it but I just think it's really dumb.

Kim69 said:

Norah Jones isn't white.

lilgish said:

So if you wanna be known as Black, where do you say you're from? Where is the land of Black? Are we ALL REALLY black in color? Where are your roots if you're just known as Black? Should Chinese people be known as Yellow? Native Americans known as Red? Sorry, but I like to know where my heritage and people have come from, so I prefer African-American. It gives me heritage and a home base as opposed to some made up Govt word of Black.

lilgish said:

wrong

lilgish said:

dude!

TheCrucialExperience said:

crucial dont even go there cuz u know it aint like that

TheCrucialExperience said:

The Thread Title was


So if you wanna be known as White, where do you say you're from? Where is the land of White? Are we ALL REALLY white in color? Where are your roots if you're just known as White?

I thought it was better since eraserhead used the term “white music” that he also use the word BLACK, heritage aside, the majority of African-Americans call themselves Black people. That word has it’s own heritage.

“President Bush does not care about African-Americans” – see that don’t sound right.

The government didn’t make up Black, if anything “African-American” is something the establishment uses to be non offensive. Saying your from Africa doesn’t automatically give you heritage, That’s like saying I’m Asian American, and not knowing what part of Asia your people are from? How many “African-Americans” know what tribes their from or what language their ancestors spoke?

Africa the word was not created by the people who came from that continent either.

again the thread title was



Not African Americans and White American Music. Trust me, Race supercedes nationality... you didn't see eraserhead be specific about the nationality of the white artist, did you? He didn't say african americans and 'Irish' music, african americans and 'Latvian' music.

Think about it.
[Edited 9/17/05 13:48pm]

Eraserhead said:

I'm a thirtysomething black man from America's East Coast. I can't relate to those, either. That experience isn't necessarily a "black one," contrary to popular belief. Is it one that many blacks have had? Absolutely. Many people, period.



Never bought a single record by them.



Thanks. Well, right now, I'm coveting whites' ability to just choose to be artists, without all the socio-cultural baggage we black artists are saddled with.

I'm being facetious and a bit of a jerk. I apologize.

One thing about black people -- regardless of our complexion or shared cultural history -- that's worth noting is that we have interests that might seem far afield our "perceived cultural identity." It's a sign of the complexity not often attributed to us. That's why you're seeing mentions of Steppenwolf and Fiona Apple, etc.

The same way you dig Public Enemy or Gaye or Wonder.

Maybe, hopefully, your question is an antiquated one. I'm not sensing on your part a desire to offend, but I think most blacks are interested in what sounds good to them, regardless of an artist's particular color -- the same way non-blacks are.

And, that's not even beginning to deal with the fallacy of "white music" vs. "black music." We all have influenced each other, throughout the generations to such an extent that those labels are little more than propped-up relics perpetuated by a human need to categorize people based on perceieved differences.


.
[Edited 9/17/05 14:12pm]

ThreadBare said:

And yes you can get an AMEN!

Very well said.


tA

Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

TheCrucialExperience said:

you're statement is about nationality not about RACE. Two different issues totally. I actually think the Black connects me more with others of the same race (if I need to feel connected) than african-american which only speaks to black folks from and living in america and actually, Charlize Theron is african american....she's from south africa....or John Kerry's wife...she's also south african. So...does it describe RACE or nationality.....it doesn't do both.

This is way not everyone who is black identifies with "african-american". And I know a few Africans who don't care for black americans calling themselves "african" american.

Rhondab said:

Just my observation, but this seems fairly common to me. There's a large and varied population of different African peoples in my neighborhood. I know a couple of people from Kenya and Tanzania who sort of roll their eyes at the notion by some black Americans that they're "desceneded from kings and queens." Obviously, not everybody feels this way, but it's interesting that a so-called outsider sometimes has a better grasp of our race relations than we do.

Moonwalkbjrain said:

Then what is it like? And I go where I wanna go.

RipHer2Shreds said:

Every time I hear that King and Queen shit I say.

Being a descendant from a monarchy doesn’t make me feel anything but ill.

The truth is I’m more likely the descendants of those who were servants of those Kings and Queens.
[Edited 9/17/05 15:45pm]

lilgish said:[quote]

TheCrucialExperience said:

If Whites wanna be referred to as White, that's their prerogative, I'm not here to argue their side.

If the Govt didn't make up the term "Black" then who did? The Govt made up Negro and Colored. Would you like to be called either of those?

And who are you to tell someone that they don't know their heritage or not or how they should celebrate their heritage? That's not up to you.

Ok, so by your account, since Race supercedes Nationality, then you should elect to be called Negroid, right?

I'm sorry, but since there is no land base connection to the term "Black" I can't be referred to as a color. My ancestors didn't come from a crayon box, they came from a proud continent where human life itself began.

Rhondab said:

So just because Charlize Theron can claim to be African-American means Blacks can no longer do it? Naw, I ain't buyin' that. Again, the term Black has no connection. None. There is no land base and I refuse to be labeled by a color. It's derogatory and disrepesctful once you break it down. Nor do I care if Africans don't like us calling ourselves African-American, I don't live for their approval.