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Reply #30 posted 09/15/05 5:22am

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I may get free tickets to see them when they come to Holland this fall. woot! I've never seen them live.
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Reply #31 posted 09/15/05 5:24am

DavidEye

minneapolisgenius said:

I may get free tickets to see them when they come to Holland this fall. woot! I've never seen them live.




I bet you're hoping they perform your favorite song...

"Black Devil Car" lol
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Reply #32 posted 09/15/05 5:29am

susannah

Hey thats not fair!!! That CD looks well cooler than the UK version!

Wheres his sense of patriotism?!
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Reply #33 posted 09/15/05 5:35am

Novabreaker

Jay Kay cannot play any instrument himself. He writes his songs by singing cues to other members, which partly explains why the songs are often so poorly written, yet always interestingly sung.
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Reply #34 posted 09/15/05 5:56am

DavidEye

susannah said:

Hey thats not fair!!! That CD looks well cooler than the UK version!

Wheres his sense of patriotism?!



well,you guys did get the CD several months before we did lol


so,it makes sense that the US version should have a few extras (better artwork...bonus videos,etc) lol
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Reply #35 posted 09/15/05 6:03am

susannah

Extras??!!

Er no, It does not!!! Different atrwork amybe, not better artwork and extras!!!

Im not impressed with you Jay.... hmph!
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Reply #36 posted 09/15/05 6:06am

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DavidEye said:

Just a reminder...

the new Jamiroquai CD 'Dynamite' will finally be released in the U.S. on Tuesday September 20.It will be a dual disc containing bonus videos and other goodies.The CD also includes the track "Time Won't Wait" which wasn't available on some of the import CDs from other countries.The artwork is different than the import version,which featured a boring black-and-white shot of Jay Kay.This is how the U.S. version looks:

Also...be sure to look for the maxi-single of "Seven Days In Sunny June".I ordered it directly from the official site,and they also sent me a free poster with my order.The remixes are excellent.



This is great news. I already bought it from iTunes but I may need to get this because there's so little on them in the U.S. I'm happy to get the extras. Plus I love the cover.
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Reply #37 posted 09/15/05 6:12am

DavidEye

susannah said:

Extras??!!

Er no, It does not!!! Different atrwork amybe, not better artwork and extras!!!

Im not impressed with you Jay.... hmph!



I guess you haven't heard? The U.S. version will be a DUAL DISC.One side of the disc is the complete album (including "Time Won't Wait"),and the other side is a DVD that contains:

***the entire album in Enhanced LPCM stereo
***the "Feels Just Like It Should" video
***making of the "Feels Just Like It Should" video
***interview with Jay Kay about the making of the album


lol and of course,we get a cool album cover as well


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Reply #38 posted 09/15/05 6:14am

DavidEye

JackieBlue said:

DavidEye said:

Just a reminder...

the new Jamiroquai CD 'Dynamite' will finally be released in the U.S. on Tuesday September 20.It will be a dual disc containing bonus videos and other goodies.The CD also includes the track "Time Won't Wait" which wasn't available on some of the import CDs from other countries.The artwork is different than the import version,which featured a boring black-and-white shot of Jay Kay.This is how the U.S. version looks:

Also...be sure to look for the maxi-single of "Seven Days In Sunny June".I ordered it directly from the official site,and they also sent me a free poster with my order.The remixes are excellent.



This is great news. I already bought it from iTunes but I may need to get this because there's so little on them in the U.S. I'm happy to get the extras. Plus I love the cover.



Yeah,I plan to buy this as well.Even though I already have the 13-track Japanese import lol
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Reply #39 posted 09/15/05 6:23am

susannah

No I have heard, thats why Im not impressed!!

Confusion?
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Reply #40 posted 09/15/05 6:26am

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DavidEye said:

minneapolisgenius said:

I may get free tickets to see them when they come to Holland this fall. woot! I've never seen them live.




I bet you're hoping they perform your favorite song...

"Black Devil Car" lol

I am actually. nod
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Reply #41 posted 09/15/05 8:12am

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mattperry said:

I just wish he'd die already. It's just sad that this music is what we now call "funky". This shit wouldn't fly if it WERE the 70's.



It's funny that you mentioned the 70s.Jamiroquai has alot of credibility with R&B artists from that decade.In fact,many 70s funk/soul artists are huge fans/supporters of Jamiroquai.Maurice White of EW&F loves them....Stevie Wonder loves them....Kool and The Gang even recorded a recent song with them (a remake of their 1974 hit "Hollywood Swinging").Roy Ayer's bassist appears on the new Jamiroquai CD.These guys know that Jamiroquai are keeping the funk flame alive.


DavidEye thanx for holding it down. I didn't get a chance to respond to mattperry's misinformed comments. It's obvious that people who talk shit about Jamiroquai really know nothing about them outside of Virtual Insanity or Canned Heat from the dance scene in Napolean Dynamite. Jamiroquai is a very good funk and soul band and their albums get better with age. The Return Of The Space Cowboy is one of the best albums released in the last 15-20 years. When you listen to their albums it becomes apparent that they understand that real funk and soul talks about love, partying, and still has time to focus on social issues. Furthermore, they understand the importance of the groove. Basslines are thick and complex, the drums pound, chicken grease guitars, sweeping strings and synths galore. They also had the balls to add a didjeridoo to the mix on their earlier albums . That is very important because they do not limit their scope to traditional soul. They posess the ability to add world musical influences into their music. Most importantly, they don't weigh their albums down with ballads. Instead they strive for versatility and it has garnered recognition and acclaim from the creators of the funk.

A little word of advice for mattperry, do not get into a debate with DavidEye about Funk and Soul music because you will get schooled. And don't even bring those arguments about Jamiroquai to me because as a long time fan of 70s funk I know my shit!

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Reply #42 posted 09/15/05 8:17am

susannah

Some people are just here to wind us up! mad shrug
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Reply #43 posted 09/15/05 8:23am

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There seems to be no middle ground here. It's either they love Jamiroquai or hate them. Why can't folks just shut up and appreciate the music for what it is: wonderful!




P.S.: I don't like the new album, apart from "7 Days in Sunny June".
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Reply #44 posted 09/15/05 8:29am

susannah

I dunno, ask the people who dont like them?! I thought Jamiroquai were a wide reachin, crossover band, but not on the org it would appear...
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Reply #45 posted 09/15/05 8:50am

Miles

No dis to his/ their fans, but to me, Jamiroquai always sound like ripped-off Stevie Wonder 'disco-ed' up. Fairly loathsome. If that's 'modern funk', then God help us ...
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Reply #46 posted 09/15/05 10:13am

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Miles said:

No dis to his/ their fans, but to me, Jamiroquai always sound like ripped-off Stevie Wonder 'disco-ed' up. Fairly loathsome. If that's 'modern funk', then God help us ...


yea; listening to this stuff just makes me pull out older funk albums.
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Reply #47 posted 09/15/05 10:18am

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DorothyParkerWasCool said:



A little word of advice for mattperry, do not get into a debate with DavidEye about Funk and Soul music because you will get schooled. And don't even bring those arguments about Jamiroquai to me because as a long time fan of 70s funk I know my shit![/color]
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C'mon don't even go there. David will school you on disco and pop. Hate to bash on him, but he's a lightweight in the hardcore funk arena and knows it.
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Reply #48 posted 09/15/05 4:34pm

mattperry

A little word of advice for mattperry, do not get into a debate with DavidEye about Funk and Soul music because you will get schooled. And don't even bring those arguments about Jamiroquai to me because as a long time fan of 70s funk I know my shit![/color]
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Idiot. I been playin' this shit for twenty years, and work for a MAJOR record label.
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Reply #49 posted 09/15/05 4:35pm

mattperry

PFunkjazz said:

Miles said:

No dis to his/ their fans, but to me, Jamiroquai always sound like ripped-off Stevie Wonder 'disco-ed' up. Fairly loathsome. If that's 'modern funk', then God help us ...


yea; listening to this stuff just makes me pull out older funk albums.



This is the sort of person who may actually have EARS.
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Reply #50 posted 09/15/05 4:43pm

mattperry

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mattperry said:




What's astonishing is the bullshit you just spun about funk smashes in 1976. Just because someone isn't from the US doesn't mean they can't be innovative musicians. Jamiroquai are not. If they were, they'd probably be taking a disco (not funk - disco) 70's influence and updating the sound to include new ideas (not including current trends) into the music.


How many current bands/artists are "innovative" right now?



You probably wouldn't know 'em - Top 40 don't play them. Some older artists are still expanding and creating new sounds for the future.

But here's a small few in the area of Funk/R&B: Slapbak, Xavier, PlantLife, Detriot Grand Pubahs, even perhaps Dawn Silva, Bootsy and RioSoul are still being freah in their music. Unfortunately there is NO RAP artists.

In other areas: Blues Explosion, Neil Michael Hagerty/Royal Trux, David Bowie.
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Reply #51 posted 09/15/05 5:39pm

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DavidEye said:

susannah said:

Extras??!!

Er no, It does not!!! Different atrwork amybe, not better artwork and extras!!!

Im not impressed with you Jay.... hmph!



I guess you haven't heard? The U.S. version will be a DUAL DISC.One side of the disc is the complete album (including "Time Won't Wait"),and the other side is a DVD that contains:

***the entire album in Enhanced LPCM stereo
***the "Feels Just Like It Should" video
***making of the "Feels Just Like It Should" video
***interview with Jay Kay about the making of the album


lol and of course,we get a cool album cover as well


..
[Edited 9/15/05 6:12am]



David tell me something, how come on the Sony music store site they have the Sven Days video to be included on the DualDisc but the press release slaims only Feels Just Like It should is included?
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Reply #52 posted 09/16/05 1:27am

mattperry

"DavidEye thanx for holding it down."

Yeah, Thanx DavidEye - you're a real Top 40 listener.

"I didn't get a chance to respond to mattperry's misinformed comments."

I'm probably more informed than anyone on the Org.

"It's obvious that people who talk shit about Jamiroquai really know nothing about them outside of Virtual Insanity or Canned Heat from the dance scene in Napolean Dynamite."

Yes, people who talk shit might not have listened to everything Jamiroquai have done, and reviewed it critacally from years of experience in music listening. But I have done this - and am not one othose people. I'm not talking shit - Jamiroquai ARE shit.

"When you listen to their albums it becomes apparent that they understand that real funk and soul talks about love, partying, and still has time to focus on social issues."

I think this should read like this: When you listen to their albums it becomes apparent that they understand that real DISCO WITH NO SOUL talks about love, partying, and has NO time to focus on social issues.

"Furthermore, they understand the importance of the groove."

No, this is just all they can do - create disco'ish grooves that we've all heard 30 years ago.

"garnered recognition and acclaim from the creators of the funk."

Like who? I'm with Uncle George when I say that Disco music is BLAH!
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Reply #53 posted 09/16/05 1:28am

susannah

Calm down mate, if you dont like the band why you wanna talk about it?!
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Reply #54 posted 09/16/05 2:09am

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mattperry said:

I'm probably more informed than anyone on the Org.

that's why you tag a band that has been releasing successful albums since 12 years a "new artist"?!? whofarted please elaborate...
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Reply #55 posted 09/16/05 2:47am

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I was able to tour with Jamiroquai around the release of their first album in 1993 and that way I was able to see quite a few shows and be around the guys. While I thought that the live show was rather boring and dull, kind of typical smooth funk from Britain, I still think a lot of their debut release album. In the London scene, where Jamiroquai have emerged from, they are not outstanding. In the early 90s, London was a pool of a large number of amazing funk bands and it was JK's pop approach that made them cross over.

Were they special at that time? Definetely not.
Do they suck? Definetely not.

What disappointed me was to find out that JK is not the caring, humble peacenik he portrays to be. He owns a castle, owns about 20 expensve cars (Rolls Royce, Ferraris, Benzes), but he still talks bad about capitalism. He's a hypocrit and he's quite arrogant as well.

The good thing about Jamiroquai (whether intended or not): They have brought a fresh, funky flavor to the pop charts and turned a lot of kids on to the real deal. Whoever likes Jamiroquai might make the effort to dig deeper to find out where their music is coming from ..

Just my 2 cents ..
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Reply #56 posted 09/16/05 2:54am

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MrSoulpower said:

I was able to tour with Jamiroquai around the release of their first album in 1993 and that way I was able to see quite a few shows and be around the guys. While I thought that the live show was rather boring and dull, kind of typical smooth funk from Britain, I still think a lot of their debut release album. In the London scene, where Jamiroquai have emerged from, they are not outstanding. In the early 90s, London was a pool of a large number of amazing funk bands and it was JK's pop approach that made them cross over.

Were they special at that time? Definetely not.
Do they suck? Definetely not.

What disappointed me was to find out that JK is not the caring, humble peacenik he portrays to be. He owns a castle, owns about 20 expensve cars (Rolls Royce, Ferraris, Benzes), but he still talks bad about capitalism. He's a hypocrit and he's quite arrogant as well.

The good thing about Jamiroquai (whether intended or not): They have brought a fresh, funky flavor to the pop charts and turned a lot of kids on to the real deal. Whoever likes Jamiroquai might make the effort to dig deeper to find out where their music is coming from ..

Just my 2 cents ..


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Reply #57 posted 09/16/05 3:26am

susannah

I know what you mean about Jay Kay going on about Capitalism, but I wonder if he means it that way I sometimes do - its for governments to change - at the end of that day, they have more money thatn Jay ever will. He came from quite a working class background didnt he? I do, and Id be buying those cars if I had that money, but Id staill be badgering the government about cancelling world debts. And I like to think We'd both give some poor soul a tenner if they asked for it.

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Reply #58 posted 09/16/05 3:43am

MrSoulpower

susannah said:

I know what you mean about Jay Kay going on about Capitalism, but I wonder if he means it that way I sometimes do - its for governments to change - at the end of that day, they have more money thatn Jay ever will. He came from quite a working class background didnt he? I do, and Id be buying those cars if I had that money, but Id staill be badgering the government about cancelling world debts. And I like to think We'd both give some poor soul a tenner if they asked for it.

twocents



I agree with you, and yes, Jay comes from a working class background. I also believe his intentions were sincere at first, but money and fame have changed him. I don't say bad things about anybody I work or have worked with in public, so I won't get into everything I have seen him say or do. Only that much: His "efforts" today are pure calculation, in order to maintain his image. Jay Kay surely doesn't practice what he preach, and I can feel this dishonestly and shallowness in his music.
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Reply #59 posted 09/16/05 3:58am

susannah

MrSoulpower said:

susannah said:

I know what you mean about Jay Kay going on about Capitalism, but I wonder if he means it that way I sometimes do - its for governments to change - at the end of that day, they have more money thatn Jay ever will. He came from quite a working class background didnt he? I do, and Id be buying those cars if I had that money, but Id staill be badgering the government about cancelling world debts. And I like to think We'd both give some poor soul a tenner if they asked for it.

twocents



I agree with you, and yes, Jay comes from a working class background. I also believe his intentions were sincere at first, but money and fame have changed him. I don't say bad things about anybody I work or have worked with in public, so I won't get into everything I have seen him say or do. Only that much: His "efforts" today are pure calculation, in order to maintain his image. Jay Kay surely doesn't practice what he preach, and I can feel this dishonestly and shallowness in his music.


well thats a real shame. I guess its all too common in his industry though. shrug
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