"Let's get it on."
"Sexual Healing."
"Heard it from the grapevine."
"You're all I need to get by."

The classic lists go on and on. Marvin Gaye was the man when it came to R n' B music, Ever since he passed away, all I've been hearing are a lot of dumb guys thinking they can pass out like him.

I ask you all, who do you think is man enough to become the next original R n' B singer like Gaye was?

Prince is NOT gaye

I don't know about "original" but Donnie strikes me as the next Marvin Gaye as far as his political views and song.

There will never be another Marvin Gaye....Never!!!


He was and still is, in a class by himself....

I don't know what it is, but when u listen
2 some live recordings from the late 60's-70's
I get goosebumps just from hearing
the crowd response 2 him simply walking on stage
or starting a certain song or hitting a certain note etc.. .
There seems 2 b such electricity, I can't think of any
*new* artist that taps in2 the public or an
audience like that.

& Society has changed so much..
The way we consume a celebrity/musician/artist or whatever
u wanna call it, it's so different in this day & age. Things
r a lot more fragmentary..it's become impossible 4 any artist
2 make a connection with the public in sucha uniform way
so that it reads 2 an entire generation. Like the Icons
of old did.
So, I don't think there will ever b another
anyone of that magnitude...wether it's the Marvins & Arethas
or the MJs & the Madonnas... . I'm sure there will always b somebody
considered the consistant hitmaker of the moment. It'll just b without
that'magic'. Of course I might just b getting old

funkpill said:

I agree.

Crucial: Donnie is clearly trying to be Stevie, not Marvin, but from the sound of Colored Section, he's dangerously close to developing a purely derivative sound.

funkpill said:

co-sign.

whos Donnie??

Noones gonna match Marvin. Im not saying that cos of my opinion, I do think hes amazing but I know hes not invincible, but because i just dont think its possible right now!!

namepeace said:

Well, as far as his political stance on race he's the closest to a Marvin in that regard. But his sound is a mix of Hathaway and Stevie.

susannah said:

Donnie is this bomb ass artist that came out with "The Colored Section" a couple of years back. Great CD, just no pub for it.

TheCrucialExperience said:

I hear more Stevie in his politics than Marvin, but to many that's a distinction without a difference. He is a significant talent, no doubt.

namepeace said:

No doubt.

Marvin was awesome..and he is someone who nobody will be able to be the "next of." Same goes for Michael, Prince and Elvis and so on and so on.

One of a kind guy. So in short..nobody!

namepeace said:

I have to check out Donnie.....

Heard about him a fews years back....

dsoul60 said:

What a stupid question...

TheCrucialExperience said:

Donnie ??

He sounds more like a wannabe Stevie...

Attention, his last album is very good compare to those average r'n'b artists of today, but like all the so called New Soul artists, he tries to repeat what it has already been done 30 years ago...

krayzie said:

krayzie, agreed on the Stevie influence, but really, I don't care whether these guys are clearly co-opting the 70's soul sound. I know the difference between the original and the copy. But if the copy is enjoyable, so be it.

We can't clone Stevie, Marvin, Donnie Hathaway, Al Green, etc. And we want to hear artists play real music. So why not support these new cats and kittens who are actually PLAYING?

krayzie said:

LOL! Like there was a chance in hell YOU'D be able to look at it from an UNBIASED point of view! LOL!

Donnie is another freakin' derivative. Just like D'Angelo and all those other "NeoSoul" artists. If an artist sounds like another artist - then they're a derivative. Why can't anyone create a unique sound to themselves anymore? I think Jon Spencer is the new Marvin Gaye...

mattperry said:

So YOU yourself like DERIVITAVE Spencer, right?

TheCrucialExperience said:

Who is he a derivative of? Name an artist that came before him, that sounded like he does. He's taken influences ranging from rockabilly to soul to hip hop to Elvis and created his own sound. He's not a derivative - he's not trying to be anybody. Saying Jon Spencer is a derivative is like saying Prince is a derivative - sure he's influenced - but it's not true. He's created his own voice and universe which only he can do.

mattperry said:

D'Angelo and Donnie (for example) bring a specific artist to mind when listening to them. They sound like a watered down version of that artist.

They have

NO

NEW

IDEAS.

There won't be one!

mattperry said:

Sounds like you're talking out the side of your neck. Seems to me that just because you LIKE Spencer that you don't wanna say he 'COPIES' but "IS INFLUENCED BY" those that came before him. It's all relative to who you like.

mattperry said:

THEY have no new ideas yet YOU just named ELVIS as who you think SPENCER is like. LOL! WTF? How new is ELVIS? LOL!

There never will be another Marvin Gaye. However i think Van Hunt if given record company support could be a major star. I don't think i've ever heard a debut album from a soul singer (R&B is pointless musical term) with so many strong songs.

TheCrucialExperience said:

Ummmm. No I didn't. And how does me saying Jon Spencer was influenced by Elvis era rock have anything with these neo-soul "artists" not having any ideas.

Nothing is relative to who you like. I can hear an artist directly re-cycling old ideas as opposed to an artist being influenced by another artist, but still bringing something new to the table.

You sound like you don't listen to a lot of music, or are not a musician yourself, so you probably can't get what I'm on about. This is why these artists are selling so well - the general public don't know that (for example) the Strokes just ripped off Velvet Underground, but didn't add their own stamp. Essentially they are a cover band of style. They won't last. They're not adding anything new.

PREDICTION 1: Donnie (and nearly every other neo-soul artist - given that the genre is built on copying previous greats) will not go down in music history as innovators.

PREDICTION 2: You will reply to this with an angry response.

WildheartXXX said:

Van Hunt, for example, is being influenced by Soul. His music doesn;t immediatly make people think he's copying someone. There are original ideas in the music/lyrics. It's still not great, but there is something unique there, that could come to the surface if he doesn't TRY and be someone else and stays true to himself.

dsoul60 said:

THERE IS NO NEXT MARVIN GAYE - Let the guy rest already. No-one needs to replace him. He was an original, and as such is one of a kind.

mattperry said:

Because you like to hide behind the word "INFLUENCED" when it's YOUR ARTIST we're speaking on and then say OTHER ARTISTS are "COPIES." Like I said, it's ALL relative. "INFLUENCED" is a nice way of saying "COPY", it all depends on who YOU like. But nice try, kid.