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PrintableJediMaster said: In all, to use a film comparison, Kate is Stanley Kubrick to Tori's David Lynch. You can see the influence of Kubrick on Lynch, but Lynch has gone in a much more abstract direction. Kubrick is all about long shots, and delving into darkeness. Lynch does this as well, but in a much more painterly, metaphoric manner. Strange, though interesting analogy. I can see Tori as David Lynch but I can't see Kate as Stanley Kubrick. And I'm not convinced that David Lynch was influenced by Stanley Kubrick. Have you read this? Well, okay, maybe by the brutality of Clockwork Orange. Overall, Kate's music is much more filmic than Tori's. I would LOVE to make films like Kate's songs. Moody and imagistic with cross-current emotions like in Mother Stands For Comfort. I consider her a major influence on my own work as a filmmaker. | |
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MikeMatronik said: Let's end this war between Kate and Tori!
They r gonna marry their kids Bertie and Natashya...  Wouldn't there be quite an age gap? | |
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BOOMshockaLockaBOOM said: Cloudbuster said: Still my least fave of Kate's, but I like it a lot more than I used to. The first three tracks...
 There you go again turning this into a Kate thread.....damn can Tori have one shining moment to herself  
Don't Push Your Foot On The Heartbrake  I love the live version even better, especially the part where she goes "contro-o-o-o-o-o-o-ol".  Yeah, it's still my second least favorite....Red Shoes is her worst, imo. DPYFOTH is one of my very least songs of hers. Still, each to their own.
I really don't understand what folk have got against The Red Shoes. Sure, it's quite an ordinary album (for Kate, at least), but there's still a lot of good songs on there. Ok, back to Tori.  | |
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Cloudbuster said: Ok, back to Tori.
Yes...please. 
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heartbeatocean said: JediMaster said: In all, to use a film comparison, Kate is Stanley Kubrick to Tori's David Lynch. You can see the influence of Kubrick on Lynch, but Lynch has gone in a much more abstract direction. Kubrick is all about long shots, and delving into darkeness. Lynch does this as well, but in a much more painterly, metaphoric manner. Strange, though interesting analogy. I can see Tori as David Lynch but I can't see Kate as Stanley Kubrick. And I'm not convinced that David Lynch was influenced by Stanley Kubrick. Have you read this? Well, okay, maybe by the brutality of Clockwork Orange. Overall, Kate's music is much more filmic than Tori's. I would LOVE to make films like Kate's songs. Moody and imagistic with cross-current emotions like in Mother Stands For Comfort. I consider her a major influence on my own work as a filmmaker. Lynch has stated several times that Kubrick is a huge influence on his work. The main film he cites is Kubrick's Lolita. To me, its fairly obvious. I see a whole lot of Kubrick's style in Lynch's. 
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boys for pele. perfection on plastic. beekeeper is a close second. | |
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JediMaster said: heartbeatocean said: Strange, though interesting analogy. I can see Tori as David Lynch but I can't see Kate as Stanley Kubrick. And I'm not convinced that David Lynch was influenced by Stanley Kubrick. Have you read this? Well, okay, maybe by the brutality of Clockwork Orange. Overall, Kate's music is much more filmic than Tori's. I would LOVE to make films like Kate's songs. Moody and imagistic with cross-current emotions like in Mother Stands For Comfort. I consider her a major influence on my own work as a filmmaker. Lynch has stated several times that Kubrick is a huge influence on his work. The main film he cites is Kubrick's Lolita. To me, its fairly obvious. I see a whole lot of Kubrick's style in Lynch's.  It's not that obvious to me and I'm very familiar with almost all their work. I'm a big fan of both though, so maybe that says something. I keep trying to find parallels and I just don't see it.  I gotta think about this. | |
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SassyBritches said: boys for pele. perfection on plastic. beekeeper is a close second.
It's a very strong contender for my favorite album of the 90's. | |
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GangstaFam said: SassyBritches said: boys for pele. perfection on plastic. beekeeper is a close second.
It's a very strong contender for my favorite album of the 90's. The beekeeper is so masculine for my taste... | |
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MikeMatronik said: The beekeeper is so masculine for my taste...
What do you mean? | |
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GangstaFam said: MikeMatronik said: The beekeeper is so masculine for my taste...
What do you mean? very slow and not very experimental...safety net | |
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MikeMatronik said: very slow and not very experimental...safety net
How is that masculine? | |
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heartbeatocean said: JediMaster said: Lynch has stated several times that Kubrick is a huge influence on his work. The main film he cites is Kubrick's Lolita. To me, its fairly obvious. I see a whole lot of Kubrick's style in Lynch's. It's not that obvious to me and I'm very familiar with almost all their work. I'm a big fan of both though, so maybe that says something. I keep trying to find parallels and I just don't see it. I gotta think about this.I'll have to start another thread altogether, as I could go on for hours about both of them! My two favorite directors, hands down!
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JediMaster said: heartbeatocean said: It's not that obvious to me and I'm very familiar with almost all their work. I'm a big fan of both though, so maybe that says something. I keep trying to find parallels and I just don't see it. I gotta think about this.I'll have to start another thread altogether, as I could go on for hours about both of them! My two favorite directors, hands down! Break it down! | |
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GangstaFam said: JediMaster said: I'll have to start another thread altogether, as I could go on for hours about both of them! My two favorite directors, hands down! Break it down! Yeah, Jedi did you start that thread yet? If you don't I'm gonna!  | |
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heartbeatocean said: GangstaFam said: Break it down! Yeah, Jedi did you start that thread yet? If you don't I'm gonna! Just no more Tori vs. Kate threads please. | |
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heartbeatocean said: GangstaFam said: Break it down! Yeah, Jedi did you start that thread yet? If you don't I'm gonna! Haven't yet! By all means, go for it!
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TRON said: heartbeatocean said: Yeah, Jedi did you start that thread yet? If you don't I'm gonna! Just no more Tori vs. Kate threads please. Amen!!!
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JediMaster said: heartbeatocean said: Yeah, Jedi did you start that thread yet? If you don't I'm gonna! Haven't yet! By all means, go for it! Here it is! http://www.prince.org/msg/100/160498 | |
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