VinaBlue said:

Hi Vina!!!! Watch your mail hon ~ for real.

MoonSongs said:

What loveliness do you have planned?

VinaBlue said:

thank you

Little Earthquakes-It Got Me Into The Blissfullness of miss amos
Boys For Pele-So Dark,Angry And Sad!
Choirgirl-its good for rainy weather

weepingwall said:

It's definitely her water album.

GangstaFam said:

Juniper Tree dvd!

I gotta buy a 2nd vcr so I can copy that Tori boot for you. I totally intended to do that for you long ago.

BOOMshockaLockaBOOM said:

You're welcome!

VinaBlue said:

I still owe you major Bjork and PJ too. We'll just have to swap entire music inventories.

Rhondab said:

Hounds Of Love.

Cloudbuster said:

actually the official guide 2 b the perfect ears with feet recomemds:

Still my least fave of Kate's, but I like it a lot more than I used to. The first three tracks...

Cloudbuster said:

Still it's so Tori!

MikeMatronik said:

Sure is.

Cloudbuster said:

Still can't find that one.

MikeMatronik said:

I really don't understand the constant comparisons between Kate and Tori. Honestly, everything about their music is very different, apart from the fact that they are both extraordinarily original, they are both women, and there is sometimes a superficial similarity in their voices. Kate is much more akin to Peter Gabriel, in my opinion.

Kate and Tori are as similar as, say, U2 and The Rolling Stones.
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JonSnow said:

When they both sing softly and are accompanied by little more than a piano, I can kinda see it in their phrasing, tone and pitch. But most of the time when Kate really gets going, she sounds more like Cyndi Lauper to me. Tori's got a sexier, richer quality to her voice. Kate is more delicate and at times wild. But for the most part, yeah...their music and subject matter is nothing alike.

JonSnow said:

Some do. Some don't. I pushed Tori onto a lot of my friends when she released Little Earthquakes.

Me: You gotta hear this great album.

Them: Sounds like Kate Bush.

JonSnow said:

They do have similar voices, and both are oddball, eccentric little girls who dance with fairies and elves and what-not. That having been said, the comparison should stop there. Kate IS much more in line with Gabriel (I've been saying that for years), whereas Tori is more esoteric. Kate is all about storytelling and overall arcs with her albums. Tori's stuff tells stories as well, but in a rather abstract fashion. Tori is more about the emotion behind the story.

In all, to use a film comparison, Kate is Stanley Kubrick to Tori's David Lynch. You can see the influence of Kubrick on Lynch, but Lynch has gone in a much more abstract direction. Kubrick is all about long shots, and delving into darkeness. Lynch does this as well, but in a much more painterly, metaphoric manner.

JediMaster said:

Good comparison. But wouldn't you say that overall, Tori's darker?

JediMaster said:

Well said. Tori's music seems to come from a more primal source deep inside her, whereas Kate seems to be more detached, creating art for art's sake, and telling stories - - with alot of passion, but with less of herself in the songs. I think Bowie approaches alot of his work in the same way, but when he DOES get personal, the results are astounding (the bewlay brothers, for example).

Musically, Kate and Tori are NOTHING alike - - at all. The instrumentation Kate uses has always reminded me very much of Peter Gabriel.

I love them both, and the comparisons only bother me when used by journalists in such a way as to imply that Kate came first and is thus somehow better, or that Tori is a pale Kate imitation. I think Tori has been honest and fiercely independant w/ her music, and I think she has shown over and over again that she follows her own path. As does Kate.

JonSnow said:

Tori could never write something like "Watching You Without Me" and Kate could never write something like "Father Lucifer". Simple as that.

GangstaFam said:

Oh, most definitely. I would also say that Lynch is, overall, darker than Kubrick as well. I was just using this example to show how one artist has built on what another has done, but with overall different results.

JonSnow said:

Couldn't agree more. Kate's stuff often seems to be very much from an outside observer's perspective (even when she's getting personal). Songs like "This Woman's Work" typify her detached, yet emotionally involved, perspectives.

Tori, on the other hand, is completely internal. Even the different characters in her songs could very well be manifestations of her subconcious. When she sings a song like "Father Lucifer" it is unclear if she is really interacting with a real being, or if the character simply reflects her darker side of her psyche.

GangstaFam said:

VERY true. On a broader scale, Tori could never do an album like The Dreaming, and I sure as hell can't imagine Kate doing From The Choirgirl Hotel

JediMaster said:

We picked the same song for Tori as an example.

Both of those albums are the most extreme and different among their work, wouldn't you say?

GangstaFam said:

Yup, and the ones that seem to polarize their fans as well. They are either loved or hated!

Pele for me. Theres no doubt. I love them all but Pele owns my heart.

Cloudbuster said:

There you go again turning this into a Kate thread.....damn can Tori have one shining moment to herself

Don't Push Your Foot On The Heartbrake I love the live version even better, especially the part where she goes "contro-o-o-o-o-o-o-ol". Yeah, it's still my second least favorite....Red Shoes is her worst, imo.

Let's end this war between Kate and Tori!

They r gonna marry their kids

Bertie and Natashya...

MikeMatronik said: