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Scarlet's Walk Little Earthquakes From The Choirgirl Hotel Boys For Pele To Venus and Back The Beekeeper Tales of a Librarian: A Tori Amos Compilation Strange Little Girls Y Kant Tori Read? This varies from time to time, as I may be feeling certain albums more at different times. For a while, SW was my fave, but lately I've shifted back to UTP. Of course, LE will always have a soft spot in my heart, since it was what made me a fan. I pick UTP at this time because it really blends well all of her different facets. There is the emotionally fragile girl (Baker, Baker), The rebellious preacher's daughter (God) and the in-your-face feminist (Past the Mission). Thematically, it is one of her most interesting works. While LE was a sort of diary entry, analyzing the traumas heaped upon her during her life (most of them at the hands of men), UTP takes a different route. It acts as a declaratory statement towards women, forcing them to take a look at the betrayals and battles that they instigate with other women. Several songs reflect this theme (Cornflake Girl, The Waitress, Space Dog, Bells For Her). Interestinly, Tori takes a good, hard look at the "fairer sex" in a way that is as honest as it is scathing. It is an indictment of the lack of unity amongst women, and how they often betray each other, as well as the men in their lives. While the males in LE were harsh, fickle creatures, the men of UTP are victims of feminine wrath (Pretty Good Year, Past the Mission). Even God is looked at as possibly being the victim of a lack of feminine love, resulting in the problems in the world today. Of course, Tori doesn't come out guns-a-blazin' towards women without good reason. There is a feeling of her calling out women (herself included) so that they can get past the petty bickering and actually find a unity with one another. In a nutshell, for feminism to work women must get themselves together and focus on common goals. I can honestly say I've never seen any feminist address these vital issues, and I was impressed with Tori's honest, no BS approach to this topic. 
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JediMaster said: Under The Pink
Scarlet's Walk Little Earthquakes From The Choirgirl Hotel Boys For Pele To Venus and Back The Beekeeper Tales of a Librarian: A Tori Amos Compilation Strange Little Girls Y Kant Tori Read? This varies from time to time, as I may be feeling certain albums more at different times. For a while, SW was my fave, but lately I've shifted back to UTP. Of course, LE will always have a soft spot in my heart, since it was what made me a fan. I pick UTP at this time because it really blends well all of her different facets. There is the emotionally fragile girl (Baker, Baker), The rebellious preacher's daughter (God) and the in-your-face feminist (Past the Mission). Thematically, it is one of her most interesting works. While LE was a sort of diary entry, analyzing the traumas heaped upon her during her life (most of them at the hands of men), UTP takes a different route. It acts as a declaratory statement towards women, forcing them to take a look at the betrayals and battles that they instigate with other women. Several songs reflect this theme (Cornflake Girl, The Waitress, Space Dog, Bells For Her). Interestinly, Tori takes a good, hard look at the "fairer sex" in a way that is as honest as it is scathing. It is an indictment of the lack of unity amongst women, and how they often betray each other, as well as the men in their lives. While the males in LE were harsh, fickle creatures, the men of UTP are victims of feminine wrath (Pretty Good Year, Past the Mission). Even God is looked at as possibly being the victim of a lack of feminine love, resulting in the problems in the world today. Of course, Tori doesn't come out guns-a-blazin' towards women without good reason. There is a feeling of her calling out women (herself included) so that they can get past the petty bickering and actually find a unity with one another. In a nutshell, for feminism to work women must get themselves together and focus on common goals. I can honestly say I've never seen any feminist address these vital issues, and I was impressed with Tori's honest, no BS approach to this topic. Awesome fucking assessment! I haven't focused on that album in a long time, and you reminded me why it's so great. Thanks.  | |
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GangstaFam said: JediMaster said: Under The Pink
Scarlet's Walk Little Earthquakes From The Choirgirl Hotel Boys For Pele To Venus and Back The Beekeeper Tales of a Librarian: A Tori Amos Compilation Strange Little Girls Y Kant Tori Read? This varies from time to time, as I may be feeling certain albums more at different times. For a while, SW was my fave, but lately I've shifted back to UTP. Of course, LE will always have a soft spot in my heart, since it was what made me a fan. I pick UTP at this time because it really blends well all of her different facets. There is the emotionally fragile girl (Baker, Baker), The rebellious preacher's daughter (God) and the in-your-face feminist (Past the Mission). Thematically, it is one of her most interesting works. While LE was a sort of diary entry, analyzing the traumas heaped upon her during her life (most of them at the hands of men), UTP takes a different route. It acts as a declaratory statement towards women, forcing them to take a look at the betrayals and battles that they instigate with other women. Several songs reflect this theme (Cornflake Girl, The Waitress, Space Dog, Bells For Her). Interestinly, Tori takes a good, hard look at the "fairer sex" in a way that is as honest as it is scathing. It is an indictment of the lack of unity amongst women, and how they often betray each other, as well as the men in their lives. While the males in LE were harsh, fickle creatures, the men of UTP are victims of feminine wrath (Pretty Good Year, Past the Mission). Even God is looked at as possibly being the victim of a lack of feminine love, resulting in the problems in the world today. Of course, Tori doesn't come out guns-a-blazin' towards women without good reason. There is a feeling of her calling out women (herself included) so that they can get past the petty bickering and actually find a unity with one another. In a nutshell, for feminism to work women must get themselves together and focus on common goals. I can honestly say I've never seen any feminist address these vital issues, and I was impressed with Tori's honest, no BS approach to this topic. Awesome fucking assessment! I haven't focused on that album in a long time, and you reminded me why it's so great. Thanks. Awww, shucks! T'weren't nothin'!
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From my assride review thread:
As some of you know, I do not consider myself a huge Tori Amos fan. I did buy Boys for Pele when it came out and while I absofreakinlutely LOVE Professional Widow, I was kinda lost on much of that album. So I never really ventured into her music that much. All these years have gone by and I have definitely missed the Tori train.
GangstaFam recommended that I check out Tori's "Choirgirl Hotel" album: 
I sent him this orgnote: See, here's the thing. I totally dig on her person. I am so intrigued by her disasterous and tragic stories and find that a very compelling part of her artistry. I only own 2 albums. Boys for Pele and The BeeKeeper. Now I have given Beekeeper a couple spins and it's not that I don't like it, I'm jsut not jazzed by it. I have to admit, that I love love love Professional Widow, and I'm not talking about the dance mix That song for me is the part of Tori that I crave and can't really get enough of. That song is her trippin the fuck out. I mean what the hell? The instruments, the lyrics and her delivery. All fucked up and I LOVE IT!.
I only liked some of Boys and so I never really checked out her other stuff. I think if I would have stuck with it as it was happening, it would have made an impression because I can't even begin to explain the impact that artists like Bjork and PJ have had on me especially considering my life around 94. That domestic abuse thread I wrote, well that is exactly the place I was in/leaving at the time so I think if I had stuck with Tori she would have made her mark on me. But it's not like I can go back and recreate that experience. For me to pick up Tori now, it will have to be about something else, and what that will be will be for me to find out. I did really dig on many of the lyrics from Beekeeper so I think it's safe to say that it will keep me coming back for more. I dunno, I know there are treasures to be discovered and I will start by Choirgirl and working my way through. She is an artist that is just so respected by so many I respect that I feel it would be a disservice not to give her a full fledged chance. Thank you for stoking the sparks I need on this  Well.....at GangstaFam's suggestion, I bought Tori's "Choirgirl" and I have one question: WHAT THE HELL!? Since Saturday I have been eating this album alive . This is her "OK Computer" for me. I absolutely loved Radiohead's "The Bends" and when "OK Computer" was released I didn't feel it, at all. I left it in the music store. Then some years later Radiohead released "KidA" and I only had to hear the first 5 chords of the first song to know I would be touched in an amazing way. That is all I heard, 5 chords, and I picked up that album without question. I can't even tell you how revolutionary KidA was for me. It wasn't until KidA that I went back and bought Radiohead's "OK Computer" and it was just one of those things I just wasn't ready for because when I listened to it the second time around it was fresh and alive and real and amazing. And I sat there thinkin....I have missed out on this for so long and it made the re-discovery all that more amazing. That is what Choirgirl is for me 
And you know what? I do own Choirgirl. I told Gangsta that I only owned Boys and Bees but as soon as I saw the cover I realized that I do own this album as well. It's in storage though and I never bought a new copy or dug the existing one out of storage. I have no idea what was happening or why I did not connect with it at the time I bought it. Sometimes I get an album and get sidetracked from it and then it gets lost in the shuffle and then later I come back to it and think, "why didn't I feel this the first time?". Because I cannot imagine that this album wouldn't have had an impact on me all those years ago when I bought it. I mean I remember that I listened to it because the first song immediately sounded familiar but I don't remember the rest of it at all. This album is simply stunning and amazing. It is the Tori I have been craving! The music, the lyrics. I just love this album. It makes me so less afraid to dive into her other works. I realize that this will be her most unique work for me but it does stoke the hunger I have needed for her music. My favorite songs are Spark, Black Dove (I really love this song), Rasberry Swirl (YES!), Liquid Diamonds, She's Your Cocaine (Tori in full effect ).....and Pandora's Aquarium....that song is gorgeous. Pandora strikes the most emotional right now. And I never stopped to consider how talented a piano player she is. The timing she exercises with her fingers on the ivory, it is what sets her apart from so many other piano divas.
Thank you so much Gangsta for recommending this to me. I truly truly love it. I love how it unfolded on me. I will always think of you when I hear it Did that answer your question?
. [Edited 9/6/05 13:06pm] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: From my assride review thread:
As some of you know, I do not consider myself a huge Tori Amos fan. I did buy Boys for Pele when it came out and while I absofreakinlutely LOVE Professional Widow, I was kinda lost on much of that album. So I never really ventured into her music that much. All these years have gone by and I have definitely missed the Tori train.
GangstaFam recommended that I check out Tori's "Choirgirl Hotel" album:
I sent him this orgnote: Well.....at GangstaFam's suggestion, I bought Tori's "Choirgirl" and I have one question: WHAT THE HELL!? Since Saturday I have been eating this album alive . This is her "OK Computer" for me. I absolutely loved Radiohead's "The Bends" and when "OK Computer" was released I didn't feel it, at all. I left it in the music store. Then some years later Radiohead released "KidA" and I only had to hear the first 5 chords of the first song to know I would be touched in an amazing way. That is all I heard, 5 chords, and I picked up that album without question. I can't even tell you how revolutionary KidA was for me. It wasn't until KidA that I went back and bought Radiohead's "OK Computer" and it was just one of those things I just wasn't ready for because when I listened to it the second time around it was fresh and alive and real and amazing. And I sat there thinkin....I have missed out on this for so long and it made the re-discovery all that more amazing. That is what Choirgirl is for me
And you know what? I do own Choirgirl. I told Gangsta that I only owned Boys and Bees but as soon as I saw the cover I realized that I do own this album as well. It's in storage though and I never bought a new copy or dug the existing one out of storage. I have no idea what was happening or why I did not connect with it at the time I bought it. Sometimes I get an album and get sidetracked from it and then it gets lost in the shuffle and then later I come back to it and think, "why didn't I feel this the first time?". Because I cannot imagine that this album wouldn't have had an impact on me all those years ago when I bought it. I mean I remember that I listened to it because the first song immediately sounded familiar but I don't remember the rest of it at all. This album is simply stunning and amazing. It is the Tori I have been craving! The music, the lyrics. I just love this album. It makes me so less afraid to dive into her other works. I realize that this will be her most unique work for me but it does stoke the hunger I have needed for her music. My favorite songs are Spark, Black Dove (I really love this song), Rasberry Swirl (YES!), Liquid Diamonds, She's Your Cocaine (Tori in full effect ).....and Pandora's Aquarium....that song is gorgeous. Pandora strikes the most emotional right now. And I never stopped to consider how talented a piano player she is. The timing she exercises with her fingers on the ivory, it is what sets her apart from so many other piano divas.
Thank you so much Gangsta for recommending this to me. I truly truly love it. I love how it unfolded on me. I will always think of you when I hear it Did that answer your question?
. [Edited 9/6/05 13:06pm] I remember reading this review before, and I thought you nailed it! FTCH is quite underrated!
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You know....I would like to hear "Siren" live. I've been listening to that one alot lately, but I can't find a live version of it. I haven't tried Emule yet though. "as prince goes poom poom poom poom
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BOOMshockaLockaBOOM said: You know....I would like to hear "Siren" live. I've been listening to that one alot lately, but I can't find a live version of it. I haven't tried Emule yet though.
She played that in Austin, apparently (why couldn't she play it for me in Houston? Arrrgh). Hopefully, it will show up on those "official bootlegs".
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JediMaster said: BOOMshockaLockaBOOM said: You know....I would like to hear "Siren" live. I've been listening to that one alot lately, but I can't find a live version of it. I haven't tried Emule yet though.
She played that in Austin, apparently (why couldn't she play it for me in Houston? Arrrgh). Hopefully, it will show up on those "official bootlegs". yeah it just seems like a forgotten song that's never in her repertoire. I think I'd kill over if I heard "Happy Workers" live.....I really do like that one too.  "as prince goes poom poom poom poom
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BOOMshockaLockaBOOM said: JediMaster said: She played that in Austin, apparently (why couldn't she play it for me in Houston? Arrrgh). Hopefully, it will show up on those "official bootlegs". yeah it just seems like a forgotten song that's never in her repertoire. I think I'd kill over if I heard "Happy Workers" live.....I really do like that one too. I think I told JediMaster earlier this year that I don't know anyone that really likes "Happy Worker", lol. It would be interesting to see how she would interpret it on the piano. | |
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sextonseven said: BOOMshockaLockaBOOM said: yeah it just seems like a forgotten song that's never in her repertoire. I think I'd kill over if I heard "Happy Workers" live.....I really do like that one too. I think I told JediMaster earlier this year that I don't know anyone that really likes "Happy Worker", lol. It would be interesting to see how she would interpret it on the piano. well, I do.  I think it would sound pretty good. "Hey Jupiter" should be replaced with "Happy Workers" in all of her setlists from now on. I just never got into Hey Jupiter."as prince goes poom poom poom poom
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The Beekeeper is her finest work, in my opinion. Behind that, Choirgirl and Pele. Then Scarlet's Walk, Venus, Under the Pink and Little Earthquakes.
I love the way she is maturing, and turning her creativity in different directions. She is no longer the same person as when she recorded masterpieces like Boys for Pele and Choirgirl.. she is who she is today, and that is what the Beekeeper reflects. Older, wiser, just as passionate. For her to try and recreate music that no longer is true to herself would be unacceptable to her fans. She is always honest in her music, and that is one of the things that makes her so special. Listening to the Beekeeper is like wearing my favorite t-shirt and jogging pants, curling under a blanket on a cool night, and just laying back... comfort music, in other words. The way the songs are pieced together is amazing to me. Some of her most gorgeous and lush melodies (Sleeps with Butterflies, Goodbye Pisces, Ireland). Parasol is bitter and determined and angry. Hoochie Woman has a little anger and but she seems a little bemused in it. Toast is pure hearbreak and nostalgia. Sweet the Sting is sly and sexy and funky. Orange Knickers - more bitterness, and one of her most clever and effective songs. Cars and Guitars - incredible melody, seems a little contrived at first until you really dig into the feeling and the lyrics. Ribbons Undone - incredibly touching tribute to her daughter. The pain is so real on tracks like iieee and Spark, it only makes sense that the joy would be so real on a track like Ribbon Undone. Can you imagine her recording a track like iieee right now? It would ring completely hollow, and yet alot of fans would like nothing more than for Tori to record Pele part 2, or the Return of Choirgirl. The Beekeeper is sublime, and in my mind she has never been better. Listen to the vocal performance on Original Sinsuality.... incredible. Tori has explored darkness and light and pain and joy and everything in between in her music, and I can't wait to hear and see what she does next  | |
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Not really feelin' all of the Beekeeper. Sweet The Sting is amazing, though. I do like Sleeps with Butterflies, but the other songs? Just not there,yet. It reminds me of the new NIN cd. I feel 2 or three songs, but not the entire album.
My fav will always be Under The Pink. All I knew of Tori at that time was she was a hot redhead in a box in a video. I bought the first cd I could find of hers, and it wasn't Little Earthquakes. But from the start of the cd, I fell deep into that Tori trance. You know, the one where you buy any magazine where she's on the cover? And you read everything you can about her? But it's all done in secret? That was me. Tori challenged my "manhood" and won! Every song on that cd is perfect. I do need to re-listen to BFP and Choir girl. I hadn't put them on in awhile. I also absolutely love the live version of Precious Things on the Venus and Back cd. As of now, I know not to expect another UTP everytime she puts out a cd. It's not that UTP spoke to me in a way, but I understood where she was at the time more than I do now. Right now, the Bee keeper reminds me of Tori making a quilt with her daughter and talking about old times when she USED to be wild. Scarlett's Walk is exactly like the American hitchhike she was trying to describe. I enjoyed that cd as well. | |
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Boys For Pele
Then The Beekeeper and Little Earthquakes share second spot. The simple answer to why is that they were each the perfect album for what was occurring in my life at the time I first heard them. I love Choirgirl, Venus and Under The Pink and am still working my way through Scarlet's Walk although I love some of the songs. I really like most of Y Kant Tori Read ~ Etienne is one of my favourites by her ever and Heart Attack at 23 is insane!!!! Music is the language of the spirit. It opens the secret of life bringing peace, abolishing strife. --Kahlil Gibran | |
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Choirgirl
It used to be Boys for Pele, but now it's all Choirgirl for me. | |
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heartbeatocean said: Choirgirl
It used to be Boys for Pele, but now it's all Choirgirl for me. Yeah, Choirgirl has grown on me a lot. Liquid Diamonds is one of my fave songs of hers. | |
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heartbeatocean said: Choirgirl
It used to be Boys for Pele, but now it's all Choirgirl for me. I've been there too. It's tough for me choosing between those 2, but I always go back to Pele. | |
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i'm really trying to like Tori....what cd is a great starter cd? | |
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Rhondab said: i'm really trying to like Tori....what cd is a great starter cd?
definitely try choirgil first My rank: 1. Choirgirl 2. Earthquakes 3. Venus (sooo underrated!) 4. Pink 5. Pele 6. Beekeeper 7. Scarlet 8. Girls I'm not sure about all the fuss over Scarlet, although I must admit it's the one Tori album I've never heard in its entirety... I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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Rhondab said: i'm really trying to like Tori....what cd is a great starter cd? I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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Rhondab said: i'm really trying to like Tori....what cd is a great starter cd?
She's an acquired taste and frankly some people just can't dig it...not unlike Erykah. I would start with Choirgirl; if you can't get into that one, go with Earthquakes. My rank: 1. Choirgirl 2. Earthquakes 3. Venus (LOVE this one) 4. Pink 5. Pele 6. Beekeeper 7. Scarlet 8. Girls I don't understand all the hoopla around Scarlet ? Will someone explain it to me ? I like "Wednesday" "Fairytale" and "Taxi Ride" but the rest...i could take it or leave it. I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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Rhondab said: i'm really trying to like Tori....what cd is a great starter cd?
Personally, I recommend you start with her first "solo" album, Little Earthquakes. It is a boldly confessional album, giving a whole lot of insight into who she is, and what made her that way. After that, you can really pick up anywhere.
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badujunkie said: I don't understand all the hoopla around Scarlet ? Will someone explain it to me ? I like "Wednesday" "Fairytale" and "Taxi Ride" but the rest...i could take it or leave it. Lots of people feel that way. Personally, I love it. It is a "journey" Tori takes through America, in an inward way. She examines all of the good and bad of the US in the post 9-11 world. How you can't like "Gold Dust" is beyond me.
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JediMaster said: Rhondab said: i'm really trying to like Tori....what cd is a great starter cd?
Personally, I recommend you start with her first "solo" album, Little Earthquakes. It is a boldly confessional album, giving a whole lot of insight into who she is, and what made her that way. After that, you can really pick up anywhere. I agree. The first album is the template and is what Tori is all about since she radically changed her style from hard rock in the 80s. After 'Little Earthquakes' you can listen to any of the other albums to see the different variations of her style that she has tried. | |
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Thanks guys...I'mma get that cd. I like her vibe but I really never truly listened to her. | |
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sextonseven said: JediMaster said: Personally, I recommend you start with her first "solo" album, Little Earthquakes. It is a boldly confessional album, giving a whole lot of insight into who she is, and what made her that way. After that, you can really pick up anywhere. I agree. The first album is the template and is what Tori is all about since she radically changed her style from hard rock in the 80s. After 'Little Earthquakes' you can listen to any of the other albums to see the different variations of her style that she has tried. You can't go wrong with starting at the beginning. | |
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GangstaFam said: sextonseven said: I agree. The first album is the template and is what Tori is all about since she radically changed her style from hard rock in the 80s. After 'Little Earthquakes' you can listen to any of the other albums to see the different variations of her style that she has tried. You can't go wrong with starting at the beginning. Just as long as it's not the very beginning. If Rhondab listens to 'Y Kant Tori Read' first, she'll think we're all on some serious drugs for liking Tori so much.  | |
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sextonseven said: GangstaFam said: You can't go wrong with starting at the beginning. Just as long as it's not the very beginning. If Rhondab listens to 'Y Kant Tori Read' first, she'll think we're all on some serious drugs for liking Tori so much. yeah. She'll be like "what's with this Pat Benatar wanna-be crap?"
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BOOMshockaLockaBOOM said: You know....I would like to hear "Siren" live. I've been listening to that one alot lately, but I can't find a live version of it. I haven't tried Emule yet though.
There is a live version right here: http://www.hereinmyhead.c...s/slg.html  [Edited 9/8/05 17:01pm] | |
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The album that got me into her was Boys For Pele. I was working at Sam Goody and we would play it in store. I LOVE the harpsichord, so I was sold. Caught a Lite Sneeze is her best video. Professional Widow is a killer track.
However, I really LOVE From the Choirgirl Hotel. The plugged band is the best. I love the balance of electric and acoustic instruments and I can listen to this album without ever skipping a song. | |
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JediMaster said: sextonseven said: Just as long as it's not the very beginning. If Rhondab listens to 'Y Kant Tori Read' first, she'll think we're all on some serious drugs for liking Tori so much. yeah. She'll be like "what's with this Pat Benatar wanna-be crap?"When I'm first getting into an artist with a sizeable amount of work, it's nice to start at the beginning, work your way forward and watch the artist develop. Of course, it doesn't always work out that way, but it's usually the most rewarding. | |
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