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Oh and I don't see Prince skipping over Louisana and Mississippi when he tours. I bet he didn't mind taking tour $$$ from them all these years. I'm from Mississippi and Prince skipped over us for years even before he blew up with "Purple Rain". He came to Jackson once in 1980 with Rick James and he never returned here again until 1997. Everyone else came here every year....Rick James, Shalamar, Lakeside, etc. Everyone was saying "Where the hell is Prince?" The only reason he came here in 1997 is because he was booked for two dates in Louisiana for the same week by mistake. If it weren't for that mistake, he would have given us the finger again. The only money Prince has made off us here is from his record sales because he sure as hell fucked us when it came to touring. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: BlaqueKnight said:
Oh and I don't see Prince skipping over Louisana and Mississippi when he tours. I bet he didn't mind taking tour $$$ from them all these years. I'm from Mississippi and Prince skipped over us for years even before he blew up with "Purple Rain". He came to Jackson once in 1980 with Rick James and he never returned here again until 1997. Everyone else came here every year....Rick James, Shalamar, Lakeside, etc. Everyone was saying "Where the hell is Prince?" The only reason he came here in 1997 is because he was booked for two dates in Louisiana for the same week by mistake. If it weren't for that mistake, he would have given us the finger again. The only money Prince has made off us here is from his record sales because he sure as hell fucked us when it came to touring. I was in a band that played at The Dock in Jackson around that time at it was told to me that Prince played an after party show there. Have you heard this? Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Artists like Prince are known for getting people to think & do. He has a strong fanbase and right now would be a good time to make a stand for something good. The same guy who made the "Cinnamon Girl" video needs to step up and been seen. This rings true for any and all entertainers who have displayed political views in their music. Where are those f*ckin' Dixie Chicks? They better surface, too.
 "Take good care not to practice your righteousness in front of men in order to be observed by them; otherwise you will have no reward with your Father who is in the heavens. Hence when you go making gifts of mercy, do not blow a trumpet ahead of you, just as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be glorified by men. Truly I say to you, they are having their reward in full. But you, when making gifts of mercy, do not let your left hand know what your right is doing, that your gifts of mercy may be in secret; then your Father who is looking on in secret will repay you." - Matthew 6:1-4 |
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Bfunkthe1 said: vainandy said: I'm from Mississippi and Prince skipped over us for years even before he blew up with "Purple Rain". He came to Jackson once in 1980 with Rick James and he never returned here again until 1997. Everyone else came here every year....Rick James, Shalamar, Lakeside, etc. Everyone was saying "Where the hell is Prince?" The only reason he came here in 1997 is because he was booked for two dates in Louisiana for the same week by mistake. If it weren't for that mistake, he would have given us the finger again. The only money Prince has made off us here is from his record sales because he sure as hell fucked us when it came to touring. I was in a band that played at The Dock in Jackson around that time at it was told to me that Prince played an after party show there. Have you heard this? He sure did. Rumors were going around at the concert that he was going to be playing at The Dock later but I didn't believe them. I figured Prince would get on his bus and get the hell out of Mississippi after the concert. The rumors were true, he did play at The Dock and I was pissed the next morning when I found out that I missed it. At least I got to see the concert at the coliseum though.Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: He sure did. Rumors were going around at the concert that he was going to be playing at The Dock later but I didn't believe them. I figured Prince would get on his bus and get the hell out of Mississippi after the concert. The rumors were true, he did play at The Dock and I was pissed the next morning when I found out that I missed it. At least I got to see the concert at the coliseum though.So I followed Prince on the same stage! Sort of.. Very Cool! I also played at Birdys in Indianapolis and he did an after show there within a day or two of when I was there. Damn.  Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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CreamyThighs said: I hate to say this, but PRince is a JW, and this kind of disaster is a JW's wet dream, cuz it contributes to their "end of the world" theories...
having said that, I still hope he contributes something...money, preferably. doesn't have to be high profile, either. He can do it in secret. He helped Marva Collins's cause in secret for many years. As a JW of almost 20 years, I certainly did not get a "wet dream" from watchin the footage of the hurricane disaster. I've made donations of money, clothes and food because it's the right thing to do. I see the look on the children's faces and think 'what if that were my own kids there?' Not that I am under any obligation to explain that to you, because the thread is poses question about what Prince is doing to contribute. But it doesn't amaze me that one person would classify a whole group of people as having a so-called wet dream over the disaster that costs thousands their homes, including the JWs who live in New Orleans. If you hated to say it, why say it, esp. when it's the furthest thing from the truth. There a family in my congregation that hasn't heard from one of their relatives who lives in New Orleans. Do you they're gettin up at night and havin a big "wet dream" over that? I'm sure they haven't been able to sleep and spent the night crying wondering if he's still alive. Some of the JWs on the org who live close to New Orleans have told me of the supplies the local congregations are donating and having trucked to the Superdome. We are not immune to the disasters of the world and are just as vulnerable. If you wanna make this 'wet dream' comment a separate thread, be my guest and not jack this thread because of it. [Edited 9/3/05 10:20am] | |
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Smittyrock70 said: BlaqueKnight said: Artists like Prince are known for getting people to think & do. He has a strong fanbase and right now would be a good time to make a stand for something good. The same guy who made the "Cinnamon Girl" video needs to step up and been seen. This rings true for any and all entertainers who have displayed political views in their music. Where are those f*ckin' Dixie Chicks? They better surface, too.
"Take good care not to practice your righteousness in front of men in order to be observed by them; otherwise you will have no reward with your Father who is in the heavens. Hence when you go making gifts of mercy, do not blow a trumpet ahead of you, just as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be glorified by men. Truly I say to you, they are having their reward in full. But you, when making gifts of mercy, do not let your left hand know what your right is doing, that your gifts of mercy may be in secret; then your Father who is looking on in secret will repay you." - Matthew 6:1-4 Great sentiment.  | |
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AntonioFargas said: Smittyrock70 said: "Take good care not to practice your righteousness in front of men in order to be observed by them; otherwise you will have no reward with your Father who is in the heavens. Hence when you go making gifts of mercy, do not blow a trumpet ahead of you, just as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be glorified by men. Truly I say to you, they are having their reward in full. But you, when making gifts of mercy, do not let your left hand know what your right is doing, that your gifts of mercy may be in secret; then your Father who is looking on in secret will repay you." - Matthew 6:1-4 Great sentiment. You two should learn the difference between leading by example; encouraging the masses to act and "blowing trumpets in front of you" or whatever. I could find a Bible quote to support my point; but I don't need to play that card. [Edited 9/3/05 11:24am] | |
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Housequake2K2 said: CreamyThighs said: I hate to say this, but PRince is a JW, and this kind of disaster is a JW's wet dream, cuz it contributes to their "end of the world" theories...
having said that, I still hope he contributes something...money, preferably. doesn't have to be high profile, either. He can do it in secret. He helped Marva Collins's cause in secret for many years. As a JW of almost 20 years, I certainly did not get a "wet dream" from watchin the footage of the hurricane disaster. I've made donations of money, clothes and food because it's the right thing to do. I see the look on the children's faces and think 'what if that were my own kids there?' Not that I am under any obligation to explain that to you, because the thread is poses question about what Prince is doing to contribute. But it doesn't amaze me that one person would classify a whole group of people as having a so-called wet dream over the disaster that costs thousands their homes, including the JWs who live in New Orleans. If you hated to say it, why say it, esp. when it's the furthest thing from the truth. There a family in my congregation that hasn't heard from one of their relatives who lives in New Orleans. Do you they're gettin up at night and havin a big "wet dream" over that? I'm sure they haven't been able to sleep and spent the night crying wondering if he's still alive. Some of the JWs on the org who live close to New Orleans have told me of the supplies the local congregations are donating and having trucked to the Superdome. We are not immune to the disasters of the world and are just as vulnerable. If you wanna make this 'wet dream' comment a separate thread, be my guest and not jack this thread because of it. [Edited 9/3/05 10:20am] my apologies. | |
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vainandy said: If Prince is going to contribute, I would rather see him contribute privately or throw a benefit concert of his own rather than perform with a bunch of tired ass current performers.
 We have enough of that shit already.[Edited 9/3/05 13:07pm] | |
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AntonioFargas said: Smittyrock70 said: "Take good care not to practice your righteousness in front of men in order to be observed by them; otherwise you will have no reward with your Father who is in the heavens. Hence when you go making gifts of mercy, do not blow a trumpet ahead of you, just as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be glorified by men. Truly I say to you, they are having their reward in full. But you, when making gifts of mercy, do not let your left hand know what your right is doing, that your gifts of mercy may be in secret; then your Father who is looking on in secret will repay you." - Matthew 6:1-4 Great sentiment. | |
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Gold319 said: BlaqueKnight said: Is Prince gonna do the benefit concert or the telethon for the people of New Orleans and Mississippi? I notice that people on this site diss Alicia and Usher to no end; well where's ya boy in all of this? Staying low key with the rest of the "entertainers". Any entertainer who has taken a political view on a record needs to step up and do their part. People like Usher, Alicia and even silly ass David Banner who are not known for expressing any political views are stepping up to help raise money for this disaster. Where's Prince?
Yeah, I went there. Prayers to all the people suffering. I'm doing what little I can. Hopefully others will, too. Peace. Just a minute!! I will enquire about this on the Club!!!!
They may give me a few answers!!!!! Any answers? | |
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BlaqueKnight said: AntonioFargas said: Great sentiment. You two should learn the difference between leading by example; encouraging the masses to act and "blowing trumpets in front of you" or whatever. I could find a Bible quote to support my point; but I don't need to play that card. [Edited 9/3/05 11:24am] No you should probably learn to not give a damn what Prince or any other celebrity or public figure is doing or going to do in regards to this. He's been a pretty charitable guy over the years but I don't think that should be anyone's concern. We ALL should be doing what we can instead of worrying about the recognition for it. Your tone comes across like you're "star-gazing" than truly concerned. [Edited 9/3/05 13:06pm] | |
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AntonioFargas said: BlaqueKnight said: You two should learn the difference between leading by example; encouraging the masses to act and "blowing trumpets in front of you" or whatever. I could find a Bible quote to support my point; but I don't need to play that card. [Edited 9/3/05 11:24am] No you should probably learn to not give a damn what Prince or any other celebrity or public figure is doing or going to doi in regards to this. He's been a pretty charitable guy over the years but I don't think that should be anyone's concern. We ALL should be doing what we can instead of worrying about the recognition for it. Your tone comes across like you're "star-gazing" than truly concerned. Precisely. | |
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anybody can show up and sing a song...
not everybody can WRITE a song that raises social consciousness. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Is Prince gonna do the benefit concert or the telethon for the people of New Orleans and Mississippi? I notice that people on this site diss Alicia and Usher to no end; well where's ya boy in all of this? Staying low key with the rest of the "entertainers". Any entertainer who has taken a political view on a record needs to step up and do their part. People like Usher, Alicia and even silly ass David Banner who are not known for expressing any political views are stepping up to help raise money for this disaster. Where's Prince?
Yeah, I went there. Prayers to all the people suffering. I'm doing what little I can. Hopefully others will, too. Peace. WELL,I GUESS YOUR ANSWER LIES IN PRINCE'S NEW SONG "SST". FOR 99 CENTS U CAN DOWNLOAD THE SONG FROM HIS WEBSITE @ WWW.NPGMUSICCLUB.COM. ALL PROCEEDS GO TO THE KATRINA RELIEF FUND! |
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Smittyrock70 said: BlaqueKnight said: Is Prince gonna do the benefit concert or the telethon for the people of New Orleans and Mississippi? I notice that people on this site diss Alicia and Usher to no end; well where's ya boy in all of this? Staying low key with the rest of the "entertainers". Any entertainer who has taken a political view on a record needs to step up and do their part. People like Usher, Alicia and even silly ass David Banner who are not known for expressing any political views are stepping up to help raise money for this disaster. Where's Prince?
Yeah, I went there. Prayers to all the people suffering. I'm doing what little I can. Hopefully others will, too. Peace. WELL,I GUESS YOUR ANSWER LIES IN PRINCE'S NEW SONG "SST". FOR 99 CENTS U CAN DOWNLOAD THE SONG FROM HIS WEBSITE @ WWW.NPGMUSICCLUB.COM. ALL PROCEEDS GO TO THE KATRINA RELIEF FUND! There it is. It's a good song too. Great way to help the cause in the Gulf. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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avatarfunk said: anybody can show up and sing a song...
not everybody can WRITE a song that raises social consciousness. Amen to that!!! | |
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ABeautifulOne said: BlaqueKnight said: Is Prince gonna do the benefit concert or the telethon for the people of New Orleans and Mississippi? I notice that people on this site diss Alicia and Usher to no end; well where's ya boy in all of this? Staying low key with the rest of the "entertainers". Any entertainer who has taken a political view on a record needs to step up and do their part. People like Usher, Alicia and [b]even silly ass David Banner who are not known for expressing any political views are stepping up to help raise money for this disaster. Where's Prince?
Yeah, I went there. Prayers to all the people suffering. I'm doing what little I can. Hopefully others will, too. Peace.[/b] Umm David Banner is known for expressing his political opinion about his own state it's just you judge a book about by it's cover.... Thank you for enlightening the misinformed...It cracks me up how some of you music snobs lump hip-hop acts in the same pile...David Banner is one of the most political southern rappers in the game...The dude is known as a community activist in his hometown...And he's from Mississippi by the way, so he has a lot invested in the outcome of this horrific tragedy..I'll say it again, if you are going to hate on hip-hop (which at times it deserves) have your facts straight...please.... | |
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murph said: ABeautifulOne said: Umm David Banner is known for expressing his political opinion about his own state it's just you judge a book about by it's cover.... Thank you for enlightening the misinformed...It cracks me up how some of you music snobs lump hip-hop acts in the same pile...David Banner is one of the most political southern rappers in the game...The dude is known as a community activist in his hometown...And he's from Mississippi by the way, so he has a lot invested in the outcome of this horrific tragedy..I'll say it again, if you are going to hate on hip-hop (which at times it deserves) have your facts straight...please.... | |
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MadameS said: murph said: Thank you for enlightening the misinformed...It cracks me up how some of you music snobs lump hip-hop acts in the same pile...David Banner is one of the most political southern rappers in the game...The dude is known as a community activist in his hometown...And he's from Mississippi by the way, so he has a lot invested in the outcome of this horrific tragedy..I'll say it again, if you are going to hate on hip-hop (which at times it deserves) have your facts straight...please.... Even his first video contained a subtle political message. I don't have any of his stuff, but he's not one of the guys I'd lump in with the rest of the pseudo-minstrels that have pervaded hip-hop over the years. He kinda reminds me of a crunked-up Big Boi. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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I guess I fall into that camp that doesn't mind if Prince keeps his charity low profile, IF he chooses to contribute. (Which, as we know by the SST download, he does.) It's his business how he spends his money. Yes, of course, I am glad he is doing something. But I actually prefer that he doesn't "brag about it" or perform on some telethon. Actions speak louder than words, imo. To paraphrase Harlepolis, he doesn't have to justify his actions to anyone but himself,it's up to him if he can sleep at the end of the day.
I'm just wondering if some you who are strongly chastizing Prince for not participating are subconsiously just hoping to see a Prince performance? Don't get me wrong, I would love to see a Prince performance, but if it's because thousands are dead and New Orleans is decimated, I'd rather just wait for the next awards show or tour. (I know I'll get attacked for that last pharagraph, just remember it's ONLY my opinion.) The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp. | |
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I'm sure that if Prince wants to contribute to the vicitms of this disaster, he will do so in his own way. And don't be criticizing him, Usher, Alicia Keys, Diddy, Kanye West or Celine Dion if they want to arrange a benefit concert or song or whatever, they're using their best talents for a worthwhile cause. If anything, we should be directing our righteous indignation towards our government at this time. The American people didn't fail on our own countrymen and women in the Gulf states; our government did. And we should be holding them accountable for the atrocities of this disaster while we reach out to the victims.
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Just a thought in defense of Prince.
Don't most of these event take pledges of funds? In the past it was that way and what usually happens is when the excitement wears off, a lot of people don't back up their pledges. Those who really intend to give usually go ahead and give regardless, it's those long term things that need continous support on a yearly basis that these events do the most good, by keeping it in the public eye. In this case, it already is in the public eye, what more do we really need. Also, who knows how much of this money actually gets to charity, I mean, we have heard of things from the Red Cross and other organizations whose main goal is to provide relief in times of distress. Whose the watchdog of all these charity events that spring up at a moments notice? Now, Prince is familiar with the dirt of the record industry and doesn't want to be tangled up in it. Perhaps he's aware of some dirt in these events that he doesn't want to lend his name to. Seems partical to me. | |
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Uh, I just took a look at the NPG site, I haven't been over there for a long time and I see that he has his own charity thing going. So what's the fuss? | |
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morningsong said: Uh, I just took a look at the NPG site, I haven't been over there for a long time and I see that he has his own charity thing going. So what's the fuss?
this was asked before the songs came out.....maybe the songs were in responce....or maybe not.. discussion is always healthy..even if we disagree...theres still love in this house... 
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