GangstaFam said:

you rawk!

Anxiety said:

Thanks. I try.

Any other requests while I'm there?

Anxiety said:

sorry i'm not really up to date on the bowie news but i was under the impression most of the tracks for that album have already been released, spread over heathen and reality. That 'uncle floyd' song on heathen (can't remember the name right now) was definitly supposed to be on toy.

GangstaFam said:

I'd love to hear "Toy" especially after hearing the updated "You've Got A Habit Of Leaving"! The platinum set also looks intersting. I already have the 74-79 disc, though.

And where is the best 93-03...that's probably when some of his best stuff was released (but especially "Heathen")!
[Edited 9/1/05 18:20pm]

kev1n said:

Nope. Only about half of them.

kev1n said:

it's supposed to be all re-recordings of his early stuff, right? i think there was a song that made it on the 'slow burn' CD single, and maybe another track from one of the limited edition bonus discs...but most of the tracks are under wraps.

and i'm not ashamed to say it: i want him to do "when i'm five"!!

Anxiety said:

For the record:

After performing 'Can't Help Thinking About Me', 'I Dig Everything' and 'The London Boys' on the short tours of 1999/2000, Bowie became enthusiastic about the idea of re-recording some lesser known songs from the early days of his career. These re-recordings, together with a couple of new songs written in the same spirit, were to appear on an album that was scheduled for mid-2001, tentatively titled Toy. According to David's journal on BowieNet, the production and artwork of the album were finished already in early 2001. However, time passed and rumours filtered through that Virgin appeared to be reluctant to release an album full of songs they didn't have the rights to. At the end of 2001, Bowie left Virgin to set up his own record label ISO, but so far Toy remains unreleased.

A couple of songs recorded for Toy now have appeared on Heathen and as B-sides of its first single 'Slow Burn'. In this temporary section (Bowie after all says he still intends to release Toy one day!), I'll summarise where to find the songs that have been released. According to a reliable source, Toy was supposed to have featured the following tracks:

Uncle Floyd/Afraid/Baby Loves That Way/I Dig Everything/Conversation Piece/Let Me Sleep Beside You/Toy/Hole In The Ground/Shadow Man/In The Heat of the Morning/You've Got a Habit Of Leaving/Karma Man.

Surely more tracks were recorded for possible B-sides. An excerpt from one of these, 'The London Boys', has recently been made available. In alphabetical order, these are the songs recorded for Toy:


Afraid: has appeared on Heathen.

Baby Loves That Way: released on the Japanese 'Slow Burn' (Sony SICP-162) and UK and EC 'Everyone Says 'Hi' CD single (ISO/Columbia 673134 5 and ISO/Columbia COL 673076 2).

Conversation Piece: appeared on the bonus disc of the 2CD edition of Heathen.

Hole In The Ground: remains unreleased.

I Dig Everything: remains unreleased.

In The Heat of the Morning: remains unreleased.

Karma Man: remains unreleased.

Let Me Sleep Beside You: remains unreleased.

London Boys, The: in July 2002, a 1'26" excerpt was issued as a "secret B-side" on a section of BowieNet dedicated to Heathen, followed in August by another 1'30" excerpt. As the latter is faded out, both pieces still do not cover the entire song.

Shadow Man: included on both EC editions of the 'Slow Burn' CD-single (ISO/Columbia COL 672744 1 and COL 672744 2) and on the UK 'Everyone Says 'Hi'' single (ISO/Columbia 673134 3).

Toy: this track was later offered as a free download (re-titled 'Your Turn To Drive') to customers who ordered their copy of Reality online from HMV.

Uncle Floyd: this song was re-recorded for Heathen as 'Slip Away'; the Toy version remains unreleased.

You've Got a Habit Of Leaving: featured on the EC 'Slow Burn' (ISO/Columbia COL 672744 2) and UK 'Everyone Says 'Hi' singles (ISO/Columbia 673134 5).

i'm sure that writer simply forgot to include 'when i'm five'.

Anxiety said:

Hopefully this part of the quote includes that song.

GangstaFam said:

...and i'll let my sister do the washing up...

Anxiety said:

So out of that list of Toy tracks, which ones do you have so far?

GangstaFam said:

well, i have the slow burn single with all the extra songs on it...i don't have any b-sides from the other singles from heathen, or any of the reality b-sides.

Anxiety said:

I'm working to fix that right now!

Conversation Piece is very nice, IMO. Has he ever sung any song in such a deep voice?

calldapplwondery83 said:

I adore that! It's so subtle and understated, but I think it's one of the best things he's ever done.

He sings a cover of "I Feel Free" that's pretty low. Parts of "Sweet Thing" too.

GangstaFam said:

Yes, I thought about "I feel free" but I couldn't remember the title exactly and was too lazy to check.

calldapplwondery83 said:

You're making me wanna bust out my 00's Bowie set now.

Pfff..Bowie I love u & all..but
Give the back catalogue a rest already.

Martinelli said:

I don't think he has any control over this kind of thing. EMI are just trying to make their money.

Martinelli said:

Bowie, don't listen to Martinelli! I want my 30th anniversary edition of Young Americans!

(though the kabillion anthologies are getting a bit )

Anxiety said:

Me too! With the high quality of all the non-album material, I think it's gonna be the best one yet.

That 1997 Bowie 'bond' deal
which made him 55 million dollars
was based on the 'future' exploitation of
25 album in his back catalogue 4
10 years running.

Oh & Young Americans is the MOST BORING Bowie
album of the 70's...

Martinelli said:

Hardly!

Martinelli said:

i used to think that, too...but it really isn't. it's just not as immediate as some of his other '70s output.

oh, and i think you're forgetting about 'pin-ups'.

oh, and uh, OH YEAH.....



























































SEPTEMBER 8!!!

Martinelli said:

I'm sure EMI/Virgin is allowed to repackage and compile in any way they see fit.

Anxiety said:

Have you had a breakthrough with it lately?

Anxiety said:

They don't deserve to be standing next to him!

GangstaFam said:

and whatever - i hope bowie and/or EMI/virgin exploits the living daylights out of his back catalog - it can be annoying to see a new "greatest hits" every two years, but the up side of it all is that i don't have to buy them. meanwhile, if some new, spiffy reissue of "low" is gonna someday entice a kid to buy it and get into bowie, then great. i'm all for it.

GangstaFam said: