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Thread started 08/31/05 6:57am

DavidEye

Final tracklist for Santana's new CD 'All That I Am'


SANTANA 'ALL THAT I AM' (release date: November 1,2005)

Hermes
El Fuego
I'm Feeling You (featuring Michelle Branch)
My Man (featuring Big Bio and Mary J.Blige)
Just Feel Better (featuring Stevn Tyler)
I Am Somebody (featuring Will I.Am)
Con Santana
Twisted (featuring Anthony Hamilton)
Trinity (featuring Kirk Hammett and Robert Randolph)
Cry Baby Cry (featuring Joss Stone and Sean Paul)
Brown Skin Girl (featuring Bo Brice)
I Don't Wanna Lose Your Love (featuring Los Lonely Boys)
Tu Amor


The first single is "I'm Feeling You" which you can download for free on AOL Music.
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Reply #1 posted 08/31/05 7:10am

kisscamille

Thanks Davideye. I see they've moved the release date once again. Just in time for christmas wink
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Reply #2 posted 08/31/05 7:12am

susannah

oooh cant wait! I didnt know there was a new one on the way! Lets see if its any good though, anyone heard anything? I loved Supernatural but the last one was a bit of a let down....
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Reply #3 posted 08/31/05 7:16am

kisscamille

susannah said:

oooh cant wait! I didnt know there was a new one on the way! Lets see if its any good though, anyone heard anything? I loved Supernatural but the last one was a bit of a let down....


I love Shaman. Thought it was just as good as Supernatural. I guess I'm biased because I'm a huge Santana fan. I love just about all his music. It would be nice if he went back to just him and his band, but I do enjoy most of the collaborations.
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Reply #4 posted 08/31/05 7:21am

susannah

im a huge fan too! Ive got most of the old stuff, but I guess I was just a bit disappoointed by it. Saying that though, I havent listened to it since it came out actually.....hmmm!

I really liked the collaborations on Supernatural, it gave his sound a freshness, and it really sounded like he was working with the other person, making something unique to each song.

Abraxas is one of the best albums ever!
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Reply #5 posted 08/31/05 8:02am

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DavidEye said:


SANTANA 'ALL THAT I AM' (release date: November 1,2005)

Hermes
El Fuego
I'm Feeling You (featuring Michelle Branch)
My Man (featuring Big Bio and Mary J.Blige)
Just Feel Better (featuring Stevn Tyler)
I Am Somebody (featuring Will I.Am)
Con Santana
Twisted (featuring Anthony Hamilton)
Trinity (featuring Kirk Hammett and Robert Randolph)
Cry Baby Cry (featuring Joss Stone and Sean Paul)
Brown Skin Girl (featuring Bo Brice)
I Don't Wanna Lose Your Love (featuring Los Lonely Boys)
Tu Amor


The first single is "I'm Feeling You" which you can download for free on AOL Music.



Is he changing his name to Terence Trent D'arby ????
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Reply #6 posted 08/31/05 3:32pm

roddiekay

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Damn..I thought we were talking about Juelz...lol jk!
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Reply #7 posted 08/31/05 4:22pm

MrTation

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bored Yet another album of pop colaborations.


He should call it "Sellout: All That I Was"


rolleyes






BTW: Herbie Hancock's version of this type of thing came out yesterday.Im a Hancock completist ,but I doubt I'll be picking his or Santana's up anytime soon. confused
"...all you need ...is justa touch...of mojo hand....."
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Reply #8 posted 09/01/05 3:34am

unique

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i can't wait 2 hear the song with the dude from pop idol

oh wait, typo

i CAN wait, until eternity

it would b interesting 2 hear him duet smooth with the looser dude from x factor, and perhaps will chung, then he could reach the lame audience he appears 2 b craving here, or should i say what clive davis invisioned

2 think that about 25 years ago he did the old name change thing and gave up on making commercial music, only 2 b brought back in2 stardom by releasing a duets album

the divine light project with bill laswell is a very worthy cd, particularly 4 fans of panthelassa by miles and laswell, thats a sign that at least something new(ish) can come out and b interesting. the very choice of artists here just shows its all about selling out instead of making decent music

just imagine what an album with prince, santana and larry graham COULD sound like if they put away any commericial and lame/stupid ideas. if they only did that when miles was still alive, it could have been 1 of the greatest albums ever
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Reply #9 posted 09/01/05 3:44am

susannah

whos he duetting with from pop idol/x factor?

Thats bad man, thats just going too far! At least most of people on Supernatural (if I remember correctly) were credible...
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Reply #10 posted 09/01/05 3:46am

DavidEye

kisscamille said:

Thanks Davideye. I see they've moved the release date once again. Just in time for christmas wink



There's a rumor that the release date was moved so that it won't compete with the new Rolling Stones album lol
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Reply #11 posted 09/01/05 3:55am

DavidEye

MrTation said:

bored Yet another album of pop colaborations.
He should call it "Sellout: All That I Was"
rolleyes

BTW: Herbie Hancock's version of this type of thing came out yesterday.Im a Hancock completist ,but I doubt I'll be picking his or Santana's up anytime soon. confused



Yeah,I would love to hear a new Santana CD without all the guest stars.This was a formula that worked well on 'Supernatural' and I really love that album.But by now,it's become a tired strategy.I blame Clive Davis,this is really his idea.In fact,Carlos has recorded a totally instrumental album (with no guest stars) titled 'Hymns',but unfortunately,Arista doesn't seem too eager to release it disbelief

In any case,I'm just glad that Carlos has a record deal,period.Most artists his age are forgotten/ignored by the major record labels.And there will probably be a few gems on this new album.Hopefully,one day he can release the music he really wants to make.



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Reply #12 posted 09/01/05 4:03am

DavidEye

kisscamille said:

susannah said:

oooh cant wait! I didnt know there was a new one on the way! Lets see if its any good though, anyone heard anything? I loved Supernatural but the last one was a bit of a let down....


I love Shaman. Thought it was just as good as Supernatural. I guess I'm biased because I'm a huge Santana fan. I love just about all his music. It would be nice if he went back to just him and his band, but I do enjoy most of the collaborations.



I liked 'Shaman' when I first bought it,but it didn't hold my interest for long.I quickly grew bored with it.On 'Supernatural',the collaborations were really inspired.I mean,you can't go wrong with Lauryn Hill and Eric Clapton on your album,can you? But 'Shaman' simply tried too hard to repeat that formula.There are several really great tracks,but it just doesn't hold together as a cohesive album.I found myself using the "skip" button my CD player,lol.
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Reply #13 posted 09/01/05 4:06am

susannah

Exactly. As far as the collaborations go, it was almost as if he used all the good artists on Supernatural then had to make to with what he had for Shaman. Its was just second rate, whereas Supernatural was a really good, cohesive record. Shaman just didnt cut it.

To go on from what Unique said too, theyre both so different to his original work though. So commercialised, almost a total change in genre maybe, but just keeping his guitar.
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Reply #14 posted 09/01/05 4:12am

DavidEye

susannah said:

Exactly. As far as the collaborations go, it was almost as if he used all the good artists on Supernatural then had to make to with what he had for Shaman. Its was just second rate, whereas Supernatural was a really good, cohesive record. Shaman just didnt cut it.



Exactly.On 'Supernatural',he was working with truly talented artists,and the songs are all first-rate.But on 'Shaman',he was working with some people that I had never even heard of! Songs like "America" and "Since Supernatural" are horrible.
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Reply #15 posted 09/01/05 4:16am

susannah

Silly, silly Clive Davis!!!
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Reply #16 posted 09/01/05 4:17am

unique

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susannah said:

whos he duetting with from pop idol/x factor?

Thats bad man, thats just going too far! At least most of people on Supernatural (if I remember correctly) were credible...


whats bad? sticking the loser from american idol with a guitar legend is bad. the label r just trying 2 market bo by sticking him on anything they can like the queen tribute album (which has a few decent moments, but doesnt really need 2 versions of bohemian rhapsody, the flaming lips inclusion is particularly interesting in view of the kleptones connection)

supernatural wasnt such a bad album tho, they at least attempted 2 make it not seem an obvious duets album by not making every song a duet. some of the trax r pretty good, like put ure lights on and smooth. nice choice in using everlast, his solo material doesnt get the recognition it deserves. maria maria is another good track, but the guests r just an xcuse 2 push wyclefs protoges. and how many ppl remember eagle eye cherry anymore? seeing him live was 1 of the blandest shows ive ever been 2. his sister was cool, but hasnt done much recently xcept live 8, but he certainly doesnt live up 2 his fathers legacy

1. (Da Le) Yaleo
2. Love Of My Life (Featuring Dave Matthews)
3. Put Your Lights On ( Featuring Everlast)
4. Africa Bamba
5. Smooth (Featuring Rob Thomas)
6. Do You Like The Way (Featuring Lauryn Hill & CEE LO)
7. Maria Maria (Featuring The Product G&B, Produced by Wyclef)
8. Migra Listen
9. Corazon Espinado (Featuring Mana)
10. Wishing It Was (Featuring Eagle Eye Cherry)
11. El Farol
12. Primavera
13. The Calling (Featuring Eric Clapton)


i must say i didnt play shamen much either. i have all santanas studio albums, and most of the live ones, but whilst the first few get repeated spins, and even some of the late 70s onedip albums get irregular plays, i dont think any of the new music from the 90s onwards is going 2 get many repeated plays, apart from laswells reinterpretations, but thats just remixes of old tunes (and rather fantastic 2)
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Reply #17 posted 09/01/05 4:25am

susannah

unique said:

susannah said:

whos he duetting with from pop idol/x factor?

Thats bad man, thats just going too far! At least most of people on Supernatural (if I remember correctly) were credible...


whats bad? sticking the loser from american idol with a guitar legend is bad. the label r just trying 2 market bo by sticking him on anything they can like the queen tribute album (which has a few decent moments, but doesnt really need 2 versions of bohemian rhapsody, the flaming lips inclusion is particularly interesting in view of the kleptones connection)

supernatural wasnt such a bad album tho, they at least attempted 2 make it not seem an obvious duets album by not making every song a duet. some of the trax r pretty good, like put ure lights on and smooth. nice choice in using everlast, his solo material doesnt get the recognition it deserves. maria maria is another good track, but the guests r just an xcuse 2 push wyclefs protoges. and how many ppl remember eagle eye cherry anymore? seeing him live was 1 of the blandest shows ive ever been 2. his sister was cool, but hasnt done much recently xcept live 8, but he certainly doesnt live up 2 his fathers legacy

1. (Da Le) Yaleo
2. Love Of My Life (Featuring Dave Matthews)
3. Put Your Lights On ( Featuring Everlast)
4. Africa Bamba
5. Smooth (Featuring Rob Thomas)
6. Do You Like The Way (Featuring Lauryn Hill & CEE LO)
7. Maria Maria (Featuring The Product G&B, Produced by Wyclef)
8. Migra Listen
9. Corazon Espinado (Featuring Mana)
10. Wishing It Was (Featuring Eagle Eye Cherry)
11. El Farol
12. Primavera
13. The Calling (Featuring Eric Clapton)


i must say i didnt play shamen much either. i have all santanas studio albums, and most of the live ones, but whilst the first few get repeated spins, and even some of the late 70s onedip albums get irregular plays, i dont think any of the new music from the 90s onwards is going 2 get many repeated plays, apart from laswells reinterpretations, but thats just remixes of old tunes (and rather fantastic 2)


bold - thats what i meant! Who is this reality tv person then?

The flaming lips eh, thats pretty damn good. Wonder how that sounds...
Michelle branch was on Shaman! thats cheating!

I know what you mean about 90s compared to 70s, theyre just so different. you couldnt expect a more recent fan to like the older stuff. Its like any artist that lasts a couple of decades though, if you like them in the beginning you tend to bring yourself to like them all the way through. that doesnt work so well the other way around, be interesting to see though... anyone here like the new stuff first then get into old stuff?
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Reply #18 posted 09/01/05 4:28am

DavidEye

have you guys heard the new single "I'm Feeling You"? It's available on AOLmusic as a free download.
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Reply #19 posted 09/01/05 4:31am

unique

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DavidEye said:

susannah said:

Exactly. As far as the collaborations go, it was almost as if he used all the good artists on Supernatural then had to make to with what he had for Shaman. Its was just second rate, whereas Supernatural was a really good, cohesive record. Shaman just didnt cut it.



Exactly.On 'Supernatural',he was working with truly talented artists,and the songs are all first-rate.But on 'Shaman',he was working with some people that I had never even heard of! Songs like "America" and "Since Supernatural" are horrible.


the words "truly talented" and eagle eye cherry should never meet. i presume ure brain has subconsiously tried 2 wipe that track from ure memory, so u r 4given lol

out of 13 tracks, only 5 had collaborations with well known artists that were any good, and another 3 from relatively unknown or new artists, so they hardly went flat out 2 fill the album with top guests and left no space 4 any1 decent the next time around. in fact there r some great artists on shamen, but just lame tracks

musiq, seal, macy gray, dido, placido domingo r perhaps bigger names than some or even most of the sames on supernatural, and the rest of the artists even r perhaps more well known than a couple of names on supernatural, but its a perfect xample of having big names and nothing 2 back them up. as supernatural had a few good tunes, it really wouldnt matter 2 much who appeared on them, the songs had the basica appeal from the beginning. it is a shame they had 2 follow up supernatural by pimping another cd full of guests

1. Adouma
2. Nothing At All (Featuring Musiq)
3. The Game Of Love (Featuring Michelle Branch)
4. You Are My Kind (Featuring Seal)
5. Amore (Sexo) (Featuring Macy Gray)
6. Foo Foo
7. Victory Is Won
8. Since Supernatural (Featuring Melkie Jean & Governor Washington)
9. America (Featuring P.O.D.)
10. Sideways (Featuring Citizen Cope)
11. Why Don't You & I (Featuring Chad Kroeger from Nickelback)
12. Feels Like Fire (Featuring Dido)
13. Aye Aye Aye
14. Hoy Es Adios (Featuring Alejandro Lerner)
15. One Of These Days (Featuring Ozomatli)
16. Novus (Featuring Placido Domingo)
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Reply #20 posted 09/01/05 4:43am

DavidEye

actually,I love the track with Eagle Eye Cherry,"Wishing It Was" lol


I pretty much like everything on 'Supernatural'
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Reply #21 posted 09/01/05 4:45am

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susannah said:

I know what you mean about 90s compared to 70s, theyre just so different. you couldnt expect a more recent fan to like the older stuff. Its like any artist that lasts a couple of decades though, if you like them in the beginning you tend to bring yourself to like them all the way through. that doesnt work so well the other way around, be interesting to see though... anyone here like the new stuff first then get into old stuff?


i disagree, when an artists has such a fantastic back catalogue of classic material, and then after a less commercial period has a hit, most ppl who check out the older music will appreciate it 4 it is and prefer that

take bowie, stones, prince, santana, they could all have a hit album by the end of the year that sells more than anything they have done b4, and new fans will check out the older material. all those artists would b hard pushed 2 create anything better than thier seminal works from the 70s (or 80s 4 prince). who is going 2 look back and say that musicology is a better album than purple rain, 1999 or parade? no bowie fan would ever say reality is better than station 2 station, the fans of those artists just compare everything 2 the past when reviewing new material

the problem is with the record companies pimping crap out 2 radio and mtv. when the public dont have sufficient knowledge 2 buy lesser known artists who create greater music, but dont have the same radio or mtv coverage, ppl tend 2 play safe and buy the shit that sony and universal pump out, as they at least know they like the tune cuz they saw the video on mtv with the hummers and bling

1 of the few artists that ure statement could apply 2 is u2, thier music since the 90s has been different 2 that of the 80s. they r 1 of the few artists who have had a 30 year career that can still put out singles that are not only hits, but r new classics, and enjoyed at concerts as much as thier bigger earlier hits. there arent many artists in that category. and bearing in mind that u2 only have 4 performers, only 3 of which play instruments, guitar, bass and drums (and keyboards on some stuff by the edge), they have a very stripped down but relatively simplistic sound. they r also 1 of the few artists who b able 2 successfully transfer hit rock singles in2 hit dance trax, some of which r dancefloor classics. still think tho, than most ppl who get in2 a band 4 the 1st time, very late in thier career that they will appreciate the classic stuff more then the new if they take the time 2 check it out. if they dont, then i wouldnt classify them as a fan, but more as a casual listener
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Reply #22 posted 09/01/05 5:00am

susannah

i just meant santanas early music is really quite different to the latest stuff, and I dont see 15 year old fans who like the hit track from the newer album going off and getting into the old stuff, simply because theyre so different. I guess I was talking about a casual listener, well, a fan really, but not in as much of the way you or I interpret that!
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Reply #23 posted 09/01/05 5:13am

DavidEye

Hopefully,the young fans who bought 'Supernatural' will go back and get into his old albums.That's one good thing about his commercial comeback...it encourages his newer fans to check out what they missed.
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Reply #24 posted 09/01/05 5:19am

susannah

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Hopefully,the young fans who bought 'Supernatural' will go back and get into his old albums.That's one good thing about his commercial comeback...it encourages his newer fans to check out what they missed.


yeah hopefully. I guess I just dont have any faith....tis different tho!I liked the older stuff first so was looking forward to new albums, but i dont know if it would have been the same the other way around, because you form opinoins about someones sound dont you, and sometimes its hard to hear something different and like it the same way, if its not what you were expecting...
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Reply #25 posted 09/01/05 6:36am

kisscamille

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susannah said:

Exactly. As far as the collaborations go, it was almost as if he used all the good artists on Supernatural then had to make to with what he had for Shaman. Its was just second rate, whereas Supernatural was a really good, cohesive record. Shaman just didnt cut it.



Exactly.On 'Supernatural',he was working with truly talented artists,and the songs are all first-rate.But on 'Shaman',he was working with some people that I had never even heard of! Songs like "America" and "Since Supernatural" are horrible.


I know what you mean Davideye, but I still enjoy most songs on Shaman. The one song that blows my mind is "Sideways" by Citizen Cope. That song hurts my heart. I think it's the best song on the cd.
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Reply #26 posted 09/01/05 6:42am

susannah

Im gonna have to listen to it again cos I cant remember that song...
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Reply #27 posted 09/01/05 6:44am

kisscamille

susannah said:

Im gonna have to listen to it again cos I cant remember that song...


I don't even know the band Citizen Cope, but from the first time I heard the song, I was captivated by it.
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Reply #28 posted 09/01/05 6:45am

DavidEye

On 'Shaman',I love the songs "One Of These Days","Nothing At All","Adouma" and "Victory Is Won".Everything else is just okay."The Game Of Love" is a nice pop tune...catchy and fun.
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