Ellie said:

you think it's better to get the comp?

Sure, if you haven't got half the songs on it already and want the DVD. It's very cheap for a box set. Otherwise it's cheaper to get Victory alone, but the songs on TUC are remastered so State Of Shock is much better quality on that.

OMG I love "wait". One of my fav "corporate rock" tracks of all time. Infact it would be in my top 20 off all time. With 2 great middle 8's as a nice bonus. Sounds straight outta a cheesy 80's sci fi movie too. Love the warm synths on that one. I can picture a vidoe to this, and indeed have done in the past.



Also "one more chance" is awesome. It can make me cry sometimes, as I know exactly how randy feels. Again, superb middle 8.

"be not always" is just Mike trying something different, and Iam he does this alot but we just dont hear it thanx to his "one album every 4 or 5 years deal", so alot of his more interesting tracks get lost. Its not that good, with the longest silence in a track I have ever heard. Its silly


"state of shock" kinda sucks for me now. Jagger is so flat it just spoils the song. Woulda loved to of seen a video though. Could of been like the bowie/jagger video for "dancing in the street". Could u picture Jacko camping it up with Jagger?

"body" is so silly, again love the middle 8. (its a tuny instrumental break). Anyone think the melody sounds like "wanna be starting something" somewhat?

"hurt" would be good if it wasn't for randys OTT falcetto which really spoils the track. Shame as randy can sing, if he limits himself like on his solo and "one more chance" or the jacksons "she".

"torture" is great fun. Love the video too. Titos cut is not as bad as u may think. As someone said, the arrangement is kinda cool.

For me "2300 jackson street" is their best album, then "victory". Both sound dated, but who gives a shit really?

That "Body" track sounds a helluva lot like "Wanna Be Starting Something".

"The Hurt", as dated as it sounds is kinda cool.

"Torture" is the big hit, of course. I remember J5 trying to capitalize on this by giving away Jackson watches in specially marked boxes of Corn Flakes. I as a 2 year-old thought this was the coolest thing that the Jacksons could do and begged my Mommy to get me one.

"State of Shock" was the other big hit. I remember in High School, me and another friend who was big into The Jacksons formed a comedy singing group. We parodied this song and called it "State of Cock".

NWF said:

How witty

thesexofit said:

lilgish said:

Yeah, everytime i say that someone laughs.

There is art to my madness (isn't that shakespere?)


Its funky. Dig those loud snares man

thank you and good night...

thesexofit said:

Yeah it is great, and it's is also my favourite jacksons album..(For the minute)
[Edited 9/4/05 9:08am]

It's a big let down form the previous three Jackson brother albums, especially considering MJ's Thiller being so huge at the time. This album wasn't quite up to par with the other material IMHO!