sosgemini said:

Yeah I say they are. They had that silly motto. "rnb on a smooth pop tip" or whatever. The image, attitude, the over relience on the producer, was all newjack. And the overalls I was too young, but I remember wanting some after seeing another bad creation with them on, and they were bivins project.

Yeah its newjack.

Its tough to bother with what was newjack and what wasn't. Babyface's cuts are strictly not newjack, but I call them newjack.

Glenn medeiros' "she aint worth it" aint really newjack, but I call it that.

And "gangster" was rubbish. Ok video though.
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"Gangsta" wasn't on any album was it? I had the single and was expecting it to be on Hootie Mack, then it wasn't.

Remember the Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air episode where Will rents out the mansion for a Bell Biv DeVoe video production, and the song was "Gangsta"?

CinisterCee said:

Oddly its a bonus cut off my "hootie wack" album. Dr freeze just wanted to do "poison" part 2. I cant believe he is on mj's "invincible". All those years he completely vanished then up he pops on of all things somethignas high profile as an MJ album.

"shes a gangster, u know she would, trying to hide it, by looking good....."

Remember the "do me" video? Hmmmm, some nice ladies in that one.

I like the riff "you can do me in the morning, u can do me in the night....". That video almost defines newjack. Though I hardly ever play any BBD.

Most of the remixes on this album were drastic, and some of them were like brand-new songs, "Word To The Mutha", "Ain't Nut'in Changed", "Let Me Know Something".


I didn't like Hootie Mack by the way. I welcomed the 1996 New Edition reunion.

CinisterCee said:

Yeah I may play "ain't nothing changed" remix sometimes. That does hit harder then their other tracks.

thesexofit said:

hehe absolutely.

CinisterCee said:

"aint nothing changed, ain't nothing changed".

Damnit. Where is that cd, i wanna hear it now.

TonyVanDam said:

Dr. Freeze (Elliot Strait) wrote and produced "Poison". HE also did"...Sex U Up" for Color Me Badd and "Break Of Dawn" on MJ's Invincible.

CinisterCee said:

I disagree. I like all the remixes except the "Do Me" remixes. They were/are horrible.

Adisa said:

Yeah I didn't like the Do Me remixes either, but that album has some cool stuff. "She's Dope" remixed by Marley Marl.

Adisa said:

U all know bobby had the best remix album.



Infact he had two.

All of the tracks off "dance! Ya know it" were better then the originals, with the excpetion of "my perogative". "girl next door" got funked up on the remix

"...gi.gi.gi.gi.gi.gi,gi, gurrrrl next door". Alot of stuttering sorta remixes. Classic.

CinisterCee said:

Yeah, that's one of the best. I didn't even like that song until I heard this remix. I used to play this on piano my senior year during my class for jazz band. The drummer would join in and then

Ahhhh, memories.

Adisa said:

Ahhhhh. Thats why cinnie has this album. The marly marl connection. Yeah, that remix was ok last I heard it. I think the video was the remix too?


Didn't dj eddie F use to hang out with marly marl? I get so confused.....

I don't have it just because of the Marley Marl connection. It was basically a hip-hop album with singing on it. The concept was still relatively fresh, and BBD was way harder than other Newjack acts (Bobby Brown, Guy).

I didn't know at the time it was Public Enemy's people on production on Poison but it makes sense that I enjoyed in in 1991.

If New Edition can't make a good comeback, neither can BBD.

thesexofit said:

DJ Eddie F was Heavy D's DJ. Heavy D was on Uptown. Marley Marl did a couple tracks/remixes for Uptown (ie. "He Cuts So Fresh" feat. MC Shan) but that's about the closest I could connect the two.