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Reply #90 posted 08/19/05 3:23pm

MikeMatronik

namepeace said:

MikeMatronik said:



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Y'all need to make a case for Bowie 'cause as much as I like him, he doesn't really "fit" the soul category as we understand it.


I know...
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But he as some funky moments (Stage live album for example)
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Reply #91 posted 08/19/05 3:24pm

MikeMatronik

This is the time U all kill me!

WHO's Teena Marie? boxed
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Reply #92 posted 08/19/05 3:37pm

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MikeMatronik said:

This is the time U all kill me!

WHO's Teena Marie? boxed


eek Whoah! biggrin

Teena Marie is American R&B singer/musician/producer that earned her stripes under the tutelage of funkmistro Rick James. Very powerful voice, everyone who 1st heard her thought IMMEDIATELY she was Black. Great control and pitch. One of the best voices of all time.
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Reply #93 posted 08/19/05 5:53pm

RealMusician

I can't believe noone has mentioned this guy!
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Reply #94 posted 08/19/05 6:08pm

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MikeMatronik said:

namepeace said:



Y'all need to make a case for Bowie 'cause as much as I like him, he doesn't really "fit" the soul category as we understand it.


I know...
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But he as some funky moments (Stage live album for example)


Some examples:

Can You Hear Me
Sorrow
Wild is the Wind
1984
Sweet Thing
Stay
Fascination
Lady Grinning Soul
Fame
Station to Station
"Old man's gotta be the old man. Fish has got to be the fish."
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Reply #95 posted 08/20/05 1:38am

Ottensen

Where is DavidEye? This is a topic that needs his imput! I swear I see that brotha as the Org authority on soft 70's and Blue-Eyed Soul!!!
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Reply #96 posted 08/20/05 10:04am

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Some people might not agree, but Chris Robinson of The Black Crowes has a very soulful voice.
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Reply #97 posted 08/22/05 8:54am

thesexofit

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jeremy jordan
jordan knight
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Reply #98 posted 08/22/05 9:06am

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jeremy jordan
jordan knight


I will now commence with shooting you in the head. eek
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Reply #99 posted 08/22/05 9:48am

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Number23 said:

Funny, how the greatest vocalist of the modern pop era is also one of the most obscure. Certainly, Billy MacKenzie felt very, very alone.






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He was great. A truly underrated Soul/New Wave crooner. pray
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Reply #100 posted 08/22/05 9:51am

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TheCrucialExperience said:

thesexofit said:



jeremy jordan
jordan knight


I will now commence with shooting you in the head. eek



Meh. It was good newjack/pop for the first 2 artists. Joey had a unique voice considering it was joey lawrence.

As for jeremy, he sounds passionate and good for that sorta shit. He sings well on "right kinda love". Its soulful cool
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Reply #101 posted 08/22/05 9:56am

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theAudience said:

namepeace said:



These musicians, while good in their own right, don't really qualify as "blued-eyed soul singers" IMHO:

Dio
Sting
Bowie
Greg Allman. Bob Seger and Todd Rundgren (sorry tA)
Everyone on NWF's list but JayKay, Rick Astley, and the cat from Simply Red
Chris Robinson and Chris Cornell (not dissing them chuckaducci, but what they do isn't "blue-eyed soul," even IF they sing with "soul")

Again, this has nothing to do with the merits of each artist, each of whom I respect to various degress, but the stylings of their work.

Just an opinion, but make your case, I'm not "dug in."



I hear you and there's nothing to be sorry about.

I'll just try and make a case for my own choices with a few examples for each.

Greg Allman:
It's Not My Cross to Bear
Whipping Post
Don't Keep Me Wonderin'
Midnight Rider


Bob Seger:
The Fire Down Below
Her Strut
Katmandu


Todd Rundgren:
The Want of a Nail
Parallel Lines


~ gotta stop There are so many for Todd that i'll just say that if Daryl Hall stays on the list, Todd's gotta stay.
So many of his songs have a more cerebral H&O vibe.

As for NWF's choices rolleyes , i'll be giving him a lesson in SOUL in a few weeks. lol

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lol disbelief You sad, sad little losers. Do y'all even know the names of those people in the pictures that I mentioned? These guys are the quintessential White soulmen.


And Audience (If you're reading this): I don't need no instructions on how to get FUNKY! I got the spirit within me, my brotha. guitar
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Reply #102 posted 08/22/05 10:19am

PurpleCharm

Surprised no one mentioned Boz Scaggs. lol
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Reply #103 posted 08/22/05 10:29am

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thesexofit said:

TheCrucialExperience said:



I will now commence with shooting you in the head. eek



Meh. It was good newjack/pop for the first 2 artists. Joey had a unique voice considering it was joey lawrence.

As for jeremy, he sounds passionate and good for that sorta shit. He sings well on "right kinda love". Its soulful cool


No. I'm STILL going to shoot you. eek lol
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Reply #104 posted 08/22/05 10:30am

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PurpleCharm said:

Surprised no one mentioned Boz Scaggs. lol

Oooh! Good one!
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Reply #105 posted 08/22/05 10:44am

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Well, I know George Michael must be #1, love his voice!
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Reply #106 posted 08/22/05 11:11am

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NWF said:

And Audience (If you're reading this): I don't need no instructions on how to get FUNKY! I got the spirit within me, my brotha. guitar

falloff

We'll see. cool


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Reply #107 posted 08/22/05 11:46am

chuckaducci

I guess you never heard him sing eek

The same logic can be applied to you too, sir Crucial Experience.

When I think of soulful voices, I think of throaty or elastic voices that either pipe, belt or make listeners swoon.

Boy George has a reed thin warble for a voice...have you heard him sing live? He's atrocious!
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Reply #108 posted 08/22/05 12:01pm

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chuckaducci said:

I guess you never heard him sing eek

The same logic can be applied to you too, sir Crucial Experience.

When I think of soulful voices, I think of throaty or elastic voices that either pipe, belt or make listeners swoon.

Boy George has a reed thin warble for a voice...have you heard him sing live? He's atrocious!


No. SOUL meaning SOUL MUSIC, not SINGING FROM THE SOUL. eek WAKE UP, PEOPLE! lol
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Reply #109 posted 08/22/05 12:27pm

namepeace

NWF: No need to resort to insults, friend. Rod Stewart a soul singer? Nick Rhodes from freakin' Duran Duran a soul singer? Robert Plant (whom many accuse of grand larceny from bluesmen) as soul singer?

Hell no! The fact that they sing with soul don't make them a soul singer. That doesn't mean they SUCK. It just means they're no more a soul singer than Wynton Marsalis is a rock musician.

Buckley's work was beautiful and moving. "Everybody Here Wants You" is indeed a classic record in the soul tradition (IMHO, ranks right up there with "Adore" as one of the best ballads of the last 20 years or so). But, like many other great artists, he defies convention.
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Reply #110 posted 08/22/05 1:33pm

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namepeace said:

NWF: No need to resort to insults, friend.

That's just the NWF style humor. He's cool. cool

I'm waiting for you to review my justifications. lol

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Reply #111 posted 08/22/05 9:30pm

namepeace

theAudience said:

namepeace said:

NWF: No need to resort to insults, friend.

That's just the NWF style humor. He's cool. cool

I'm waiting for you to review my justifications. lol

tA
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you made your case. I particularly like Rundgren and his style.
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Reply #112 posted 08/23/05 5:10am

chuckaducci

Crucial, this is a joke, right? Then what is this thread about? Soul singers or singers who are singing "soul music"? There is a difference.

This thread is entitled (in your very own words): TOP 10 BEST BLUE-EYED SOUL VOICES. Then you listed:

2 - Boy George = Has that smooth soul voice

Now because I've said that Boy George, possessor of a reed thin warble who sang pop music, doesnt have a soulful voice and was horrible live, you're saying instead No. SOUL meaning SOUL MUSIC, not SINGING FROM THE SOUL. WAKE UP, PEOPLE! .

Make up your mind.
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Reply #113 posted 08/23/05 5:16am

CinisterCee

thesexofit said:

TheCrucialExperience said:



I will now commence with shooting you in the head. eek



Meh. It was good newjack/pop for the first 2 artists. Joey had a unique voice considering it was joey lawrence.

As for jeremy, he sounds passionate and good for that sorta shit. He sings well on "right kinda love". Its soulful cool

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Reply #114 posted 08/23/05 9:44am

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NWF: No need to resort to insults, friend. Rod Stewart a soul singer? Nick Rhodes from freakin' Duran Duran a soul singer? Robert Plant (whom many accuse of grand larceny from bluesmen) as soul singer?

Hell no! The fact that they sing with soul don't make them a soul singer. That doesn't mean they SUCK. It just means they're no more a soul singer than Wynton Marsalis is a rock musician.

Buckley's work was beautiful and moving. "Everybody Here Wants You" is indeed a classic record in the soul tradition (IMHO, ranks right up there with "Adore" as one of the best ballads of the last 20 years or so). But, like many other great artists, he defies convention.


I'm not taking my list back. I believe that these guys really do have Soul, whether they play that genre or not. And that wasn't Nick Rhodes, dude. lol If you're referring to that dude with the tinted shades, that would be Paul Weller from Style Council and The Jam. He's the Modfather with soul!

And when I mention guys like Robert Plant and Rod Stewart, they were influenced by Soul and Blues and stuff, and you can easiily hear that in their music. It's all there, man.


Yeah, and try not to take my posts too seriously. I speak in good humor.


Oh, and add Alison Moyet to that list too.


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Reply #115 posted 08/23/05 9:50am

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CinisterCee said:

thesexofit said:




Meh. It was good newjack/pop for the first 2 artists. Joey had a unique voice considering it was joey lawrence.

As for jeremy, he sounds passionate and good for that sorta shit. He sings well on "right kinda love". Its soulful cool

spit


mad

Beats someone like rod "frog in my throat" stewart for fucks sake lol
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Reply #116 posted 08/23/05 9:52am

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Cloudbuster said:

alandail said:

to this day it still amazes me that radio bias kept most of america from ever even hearing that masterpiece. It should have won the grammy that year, instead hardly anyone even knows about the song. The whole Size Isn't Everything album was a should have been classic.

For Whom the Bell Tolls
Omega Man
Blue Island
Haunted House


Well, US radio pretty much tuned them out after 1980. Like Barry once said, most radio wouldn't even listen to their stuff when sent, nevermind actually play it. A shame 'cos many of their later singles were equally as good as their 60s & 70s work. And sometimes better.



U guys made me dig up that album again. I dont mind "for whom the bell tolls", but stuff as excellently produced as " anything for you" is alot better.
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Reply #117 posted 08/23/05 9:58am

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chuckaducci said:

Crucial, this is a joke, right? Then what is this thread about? Soul singers or singers who are singing "soul music"? There is a difference.

This thread is entitled (in your very own words): TOP 10 BEST BLUE-EYED SOUL VOICES. Then you listed:

2 - Boy George = Has that smooth soul voice

Now because I've said that Boy George, possessor of a reed thin warble who sang pop music, doesnt have a soulful voice and was horrible live, you're saying instead No. SOUL meaning SOUL MUSIC, not SINGING FROM THE SOUL. WAKE UP, PEOPLE! .

Make up your mind.


Chucky, have you ever heard of SOUL MUSIC? A simple yes or no will do. This topic is about WHITE ARTISTS THAT HAVE A SOULFUL/R&B SINGING VOICE.

BRUCE FUCKIN' SPRINGSTEEN IS NOT A SOUL SINGER.

I don't know how much clearer I have to make this for you.
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Reply #118 posted 08/23/05 10:56am

namepeace

NWF said:

namepeace said:

NWF: No need to resort to insults, friend. Rod Stewart a soul singer? Nick Rhodes from freakin' Duran Duran a soul singer? Robert Plant (whom many accuse of grand larceny from bluesmen) as soul singer?

Hell no! The fact that they sing with soul don't make them a soul singer. That doesn't mean they SUCK. It just means they're no more a soul singer than Wynton Marsalis is a rock musician.

Buckley's work was beautiful and moving. "Everybody Here Wants You" is indeed a classic record in the soul tradition (IMHO, ranks right up there with "Adore" as one of the best ballads of the last 20 years or so). But, like many other great artists, he defies convention.


I'm not taking my list back. I believe that these guys really do have Soul, whether they play that genre or not. And that wasn't Nick Rhodes, dude. lol If you're referring to that dude with the tinted shades, that would be Paul Weller from Style Council and The Jam. He's the Modfather with soul!

And when I mention guys like Robert Plant and Rod Stewart, they were influenced by Soul and Blues and stuff, and you can easiily hear that in their music. It's all there, man.


Yeah, and try not to take my posts too seriously. I speak in good humor.


Oh, and add Alison Moyet to that list too.


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Why you gotta hurt peoples' feelins and stuff?

Who's that Duran Duran looking dude in the first post? Looks like Nick Rhodes to me. I wasn't referring to the shaded dude.

Influences aside, those guys aren't soul singers as the term "soul music" is commonly understood.
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Reply #119 posted 08/23/05 1:11pm

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namepeace said:


you made your case. I particularly like Rundgren and his style.

Runt has always had some soul in his stroll.
You even can sense it in his original '68 Nazz version of Hello It's Me.

Thanks for reconsidering. wink

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