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Thread started 08/25/05 11:17pm

TonyVanDam

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Keyboard Battle Of The Ages (Stevie Wonder VS. Prince)

Piano, Organ, Synths, etc.

Who's THE real master of the keyboards?




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Reply #1 posted 08/25/05 11:47pm

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i dont know but i DO know that those are some delicious pics of them!
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Reply #2 posted 08/26/05 12:19am

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Uh.. There both very, very good. Tough question.
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But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U.
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Reply #3 posted 08/26/05 12:21am

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Where's Ms.Legs or Vainandy when we need them the most?

I bet they might think this is a tough one too!
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Reply #4 posted 08/26/05 12:31am

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This isn't tough. Prince is a decent keyboardist, but he's not on Stevie's level AT ALL.
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Reply #5 posted 08/26/05 12:34am

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BlaqueKnight said:

This isn't tough. Prince is a decent keyboardist, but he's not on Stevie's level AT ALL.

Prince is more than decent.
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Reply #6 posted 08/26/05 12:47am

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Well, this is a close one . So, I would have to say that this battle would end in draw b/c both individuals are on top of thier game musically.
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Reply #7 posted 08/26/05 12:54am

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Nah. I gotta disagree with ya there, dear. When you delve into Stevie's chord progressions and arrangements, he's in a class by himself. The sophistication and color alone are far beyond what Prince does on keys. I can admit Prince is better than decent, but he's nowhere near Stevie. We just have to agree to disagree on this one. Ask some other keyboard players to sight read tracks by both artists. Prince's parts are odd, but not that difficult. Cats like Herbie Hancock and George Duke would play Prince under the table, whereas Stevie's parts evolve so much during the course of a song its hard to keep up with the ideas.
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Reply #8 posted 08/26/05 12:58am

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BlaqueKnight said:

Nah. I gotta disagree with ya there, dear. When you delve into Stevie's chord progressions and arrangements, he's in a class by himself. The sophistication and color alone are far beyond what Prince does on keys. I can admit Prince is better than decent, but he's nowhere near Stevie. We just have to agree to disagree on this one. Ask some other keyboard players to sight read tracks by both artists. Prince's parts are odd, but not that difficult. Cats like Herbie Hancock and George Duke would play Prince under the table, whereas Stevie's parts evolve so much during the course of a song its hard to keep up with the ideas.
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BK, the only thing essential from my view that stands between P and Stevie is experience. Of course, Steve has been in the biz longer and I will grant you that.
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Reply #9 posted 08/26/05 1:12am

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TonyVanDam said:

Where's Ms.Legs or Vainandy when we need them the most?

I bet they might think this is a tough one too!
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That is a tough one. I did a similar thread months ago called "Prince vs. Stevie Wonder" as in which one is more talented. My response was Stevie. As for keyboards, I'm not a musician so I really don't know about about the playing techniques and so forth. Going strictly by the "sound" to my non-musician ears, I would say Prince.

Speaking of Hotlegs, where the hell is she?! She didn't get in on that Rick James fight that was going on a little while ago so I know something's wrong. Girl, you better get your ass up in here! biggrin
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Reply #10 posted 08/26/05 1:15am

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BlaqueKnight said:

Nah. I gotta disagree with ya there, dear. When you delve into Stevie's chord progressions and arrangements, he's in a class by himself. The sophistication and color alone are far beyond what Prince does on keys. I can admit Prince is better than decent, but he's nowhere near Stevie. We just have to agree to disagree on this one. Ask some other keyboard players to sight read tracks by both artists. Prince's parts are odd, but not that difficult. Cats like Herbie Hancock and George Duke would play Prince under the table, whereas Stevie's parts evolve so much during the course of a song its hard to keep up with the ideas.
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Superwoman (Where Were You When I Needed You) comes to mind. Steve use a lot of chords on THAT song! And even today, I'm still learning new notes!! cool
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Reply #11 posted 08/26/05 1:16am

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BlaqueKnight said:

Nah. I gotta disagree with ya there, dear. When you delve into Stevie's chord progressions and arrangements, he's in a class by himself. The sophistication and color alone are far beyond what Prince does on keys. I can admit Prince is better than decent, but he's nowhere near Stevie. We just have to agree to disagree on this one. Ask some other keyboard players to sight read tracks by both artists. Prince's parts are odd, but not that difficult. Cats like Herbie Hancock and George Duke would play Prince under the table, whereas Stevie's parts evolve so much during the course of a song its hard to keep up with the ideas.
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Prince is my man. But Stevie is on another level with his keyboard skills.
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Reply #12 posted 08/26/05 1:18am

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vainandy said:



That is a tough one. I did a similar thread months ago called "Prince vs. Stevie Wonder" as in which one is more talented. My response was Stevie. As for keyboards, I'm not a musician so I really don't know about about the playing techniques and so forth. Going strictly by the "sound" to my non-musician ears, I would say Prince.

Speaking of Hotlegs, where the hell is she?! She didn't get in on that Rick James fight that was going on a little while ago so I know something's wrong. Girl, you better get your ass up in here! biggrin


Where is that old thread anyway? I bet it was a great discussion. cool
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Reply #13 posted 08/26/05 1:21am

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Reply #14 posted 08/26/05 1:23am

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TonyVanDam said:

vainandy said:



That is a tough one. I did a similar thread months ago called "Prince vs. Stevie Wonder" as in which one is more talented. My response was Stevie. As for keyboards, I'm not a musician so I really don't know about about the playing techniques and so forth. Going strictly by the "sound" to my non-musician ears, I would say Prince.

Speaking of Hotlegs, where the hell is she?! She didn't get in on that Rick James fight that was going on a little while ago so I know something's wrong. Girl, you better get your ass up in here! biggrin


Where is that old thread anyway? I bet it was a great discussion. cool


That was probably about a year ago. It started out with people refusing or scared to choose. It eventually developed into a full fledged fight with over 100 responses. It was very interesting.

Speaking of that old thread, you may be able to find it if you keep going to probably page 300 on the boards. I did a thread around the same time asking who is the most famous and well known entertainer of all time....Elvis or Michael Jackson. In the thread, I said Michael. Not too long ago, someone sent me an orgnote and said..."hell no, Elvis is more famous". They were mad as hell too. lol
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Reply #15 posted 08/26/05 1:23am

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Og God, STevie for me definitely, but oh MY does Prince look sexy there drool
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Reply #16 posted 08/26/05 1:45am

GangstaFam

She could whoop both their asses.

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Reply #17 posted 08/26/05 2:15am

TonyVanDam

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GangstaFam said:

She could whoop both their asses.



THAT woman ain't shit until she can play one of these:



THIS is a Moog Synthesizer. Stevie was able to make great songs with this monster!
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Reply #18 posted 08/26/05 2:18am

GangstaFam

TonyVanDam said:

GangstaFam said:

She could whoop both their asses.



THAT woman ain't shit until she can play one of these:



THIS is a Moog Synthesizer. Stevie was able to make great songs with this monster!

Well, she plays 3 or 4 levels of keys and is doing pedal work with both feet playing entire melodies with them. Quite a sight.
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Reply #19 posted 08/26/05 2:57am

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Stevie Wonder is primarly an accomponist as a keyboard player. Prince is an accomponist as well as a soloist on the keys. I think Stevie is superiour in his use of rich harmonic twists and turns in his compositions, but as pure chops are concerned Prince is the winner imo. Just listen for example to the Madhouse "8" album or watch the piano-medley of the Lovesexy concert, or countless other live performences for that matter. His solo chops are comparable to that of someone like Jan Hammer. I never heard Stevie doing stuff like that (and I have most of his albums).
Also there are numerous tales of serious keyboard players working for Prince running against their own technical limitations when executing some of his keyboard parts. Prince kills on keys (I do think that Stevie Wonder is the superiour musical genious though).
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Reply #20 posted 08/26/05 3:03am

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GangstaFam said:

TonyVanDam said:



THAT woman ain't shit until she can play one of these:



THIS is a Moog Synthesizer. Stevie was able to make great songs with this monster!

Well, she plays 3 or 4 levels of keys and is doing pedal work with both feet playing entire melodies with them. Quite a sight.


...but can she beat the late great Jimmy Smith? Jimmy can play THE bass with the pedal.

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Reply #21 posted 08/26/05 3:07am

Ellie

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Can't beat a bit of Margarita PRACATAAAAAN!

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Reply #22 posted 08/26/05 3:11am

GangstaFam

TonyVanDam said:

...but can she beat the late great Jimmy Smith? Jimmy can play THE bass with the pedal.


Oh yes. She can play 2 parts with her feet and up to 4 with her hands. She's a sextopus!
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Reply #23 posted 08/26/05 7:04am

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What a joke thread... lol

As a piano player myself, I've never been impressed that much by Prince skills... but he's very good...

In the other side Stevie is a real master in synthetizer/keyboardist, and a great classical pianist too...
He revolutionized the way of using it... and masterized it like nobody before...

So Stevie wins...

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Reply #24 posted 08/26/05 7:15am

Novabreaker

On the keyboard Stevie wins by a landslide. It's simply just his business.
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Reply #25 posted 08/26/05 7:26am

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Stevie, definitely. I think that Stevie and maybe Bernie Worrell are two of the most impressive keyboardists I've heard that aren't Jazz or Classical musicians, though both were classicaly trained.

I do love Prince's style, his touch on the keyboards, though.


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Reply #26 posted 08/26/05 8:23am

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BlaqueKnight said:

Nah. I gotta disagree with ya there, dear. When you delve into Stevie's chord progressions and arrangements, he's in a class by himself. The sophistication and color alone are far beyond what Prince does on keys. I can admit Prince is better than decent, but he's nowhere near Stevie. We just have to agree to disagree on this one. Ask some other keyboard players to sight read tracks by both artists. Prince's parts are odd, but not that difficult. Cats like Herbie Hancock and George Duke would play Prince under the table, whereas Stevie's parts evolve so much during the course of a song its hard to keep up with the ideas.


I feel you in this, because I've heard it before.
Here's an excerpt from the liner notes of Natural Wonder, the live album Stevie did with the Tokyo Symphony Orchestra:

The rehearsals alone were interesting from the scholarly versus emotional point of view, according to Henry Panion (PhD), "Many of the classical players came in with preconceived notions. The assumption that pop music is too simple for classical players couldn't be more off the mark when it comes to Stevie. I gave them 'Village Ghetto Land' because I felt they'd be familiar with it's 17th century feel. Soon they were shaking their heads in awe."

(Regarding "Love's In Need of Love Today") To confound the scholars, it's probable that this song is the only time in the listener's regular musical life experience they are comfortably humming along with octaves of minor ninths. With Stevie, what seems simple simply never, ever is just that. Enormously hummable, yes, but always complex. Just try to play the tricky stuff - any of it.


-Liner notes by noted writer/music historian, Ruth Adkins Robinson and musicologist/songwriter/musician Brian O'Neal.
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Reply #27 posted 08/26/05 2:46pm

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I can't say. But a track like "You've Got It Bad Girl" is powerful evidence for Stevie's case. Stevie seems to have a "warmer" style to the untrained eye.

But this is like saying comparing Oscar Robertson to Magic. Both players could do all things well. But if I HAD to pick one, I'd say Stevie.
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Reply #28 posted 08/26/05 3:36pm

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Stevie.
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Reply #29 posted 08/26/05 3:40pm

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Stevie cool
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