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The Hissing of Summer Lawns Appreciation Thread I have been jamming Joni Mitchell's 1975 masterwork The Hissing of Summer Lawns for the last two weeks. The album is simply brilliant and oh so intelligently executed. The poetic lyrics, the cautionary tales about imprisonment in suburbia, the plight of women, spirituality, F U to the mainstream etc., all combine to make one of the most rewarding listening experiences I've ever encountered. I love how she seduces the listener with breezy up beat folk/pop of the opening track then delves into heavier themes that were hinted at on the opener. Prince was quoted as saying that this was one of the first albums he ever enjoyed from start to finish and I can definitely feel where he is coming from. Furthermore, the albums appreciation long after its initial release is a testament to Mitchell's geninus and proves that she was miles ahead of her peers. It also shows that critical reviews should be taken with a grain of salt, considering that Rolling Stone voted this the worst album of 1975. I'm still trying to figure out why some people consider this album so impenetrable. I know its free of repetitive hooks and the songs straddle various genres, but somehow the album still feels accessible. | |
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DorothyParkerWasCool said: I have been jamming Joni Mitchell's 1975 masterwork The Hissing of Summer Lawns for the last two weeks. The album is simply brilliant and oh so intelligently executed. The poetic lyrics, the cautionary tales about imprisonment in suburbia, the plight of women, spirituality, F U to the mainstream etc., all combine to make one of the most rewarding listening experiences I've ever encountered. I love how she seduces the listener with breezy up beat folk/pop of the opening track then delves into heavier themes that were hinted at on the opener. Prince was quoted as saying that this was one of the first albums he ever enjoyed from start to finish and I can definitely feel where he is coming from. Furthermore, the albums appreciation long after its initial release is a testament to Mitchell's geninus and proves that she was miles ahead of her peers. It also shows that critical reviews should be taken with a grain of salt, considering that Rolling Stone voted this the worst album of 1975. I'm still trying to figure out why some people consider this album so impenetrable. I know its free of repetitive hooks and the songs straddle various genres, but somehow the album still feels accessible. i dont blame them "Americans consume the most fast food than any nation on Earth and the stupid motherfuckers wonder why they are so fat? " - Oprah Winfrey | |
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i dont blame them Are u serious? Care to expound? [Edited 8/16/05 17:53pm] | |
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I'll testify just for Edith and the Kingpin | |
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I finally appreciated this album last month after listening to Hejira, Court & Spark, and Blue. I really think that with this album, she proved that she didn't want to be a pop star with the release of her 1974 critically acclaimed record, Court & Spark. I mean, she does some of her best poetic works with this record and the arrangements were fresh. I really don't know why critics had a major problem with this because as DorothyParkerWasCool just said, it still had a mainstream, pop-jazz sound to it in some parts, but it's also cryptic in a way, everytime I hear it. My favorite tracks on here are In France They Kiss On Main Street, The Jungle Line (the moog synthesizer rhythms and those Burundi drums make the song specially mindblowing!!!), Don't Interrupt The Sorrow, Boho Dance, Hissing Of Summer Lawns (the best track of the record), Shadows and Light, and Edith and the Kingpin. [Edited 8/16/05 19:19pm] Check me out and add me on:
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I'll testify for this album... The only track I don't particularly care for is The Jungle Line. But overall it's my favorite Joni album and I think it's the best thing she ever released. I can play this thing from start to finish, keep it on repeat all day and never get bored with it. | |
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I first heard this album back in late '85 or so and was mesmerized. It is, to this day, still untarnished in my mind - easily my fave. | |
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silverchild said: I finally appreciated this album last month after listening to Hejira, Court & Spark, and Blue. I really think that with this album, she proved that she didn't want to be a pop star with the release of her 1974 critically acclaimed record, Court & Spark. I mean, she does some of her best poetic works with this record and the arrangements were fresh. I really don't know why critics had a major problem with this because as DorothyParkerWasCool just said, it still had a mainstream, pop-jazz sound to it in some parts, but it's also cryptic in a way, everytime I hear it. My favorite tracks on here are In France They Kiss On Main Street, The Jungle Line (the moog synthesizer rhythms and those Burundi drums make the song specially mindblowing!!!), Don't Interrupt The Sorrow, Boho Dance, Hissing Of Summer Lawns (the best track of the record), Shadows and Light, and Edith and the Kingpin.
[Edited 8/16/05 19:19pm] I love the informed responses on this thread! | |
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Digging this out tonight... | |
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This is my favorite Joni Mitchell album, with Hejira being a close second. I remember this album just blowing me away the first time I heard it. Each Track drew me in even more. To me, it's the logical progression from Court and Spark. It's beautiful, and I'm not sure why some would have a hard time with it, other than "The Jungle Line", which was a bold quantum leap from anything she had ever done before... (Thomas Dolby used to perform this tune in concert, first warning his audience, "This ain't Woodstock!", )
Prince mentioned that this album was one of his favorites, and I can imagine him being influenced by pieces like "Shadows and Light"(those harmonies)and "Don't Interrupt the Sorrow" and "Boho Dance"... ... " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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It's fantastic for sure. But my fave of hers is Hejira which I consider to be her last truly great album. Don Juan's Reckless Daughter is very good, tho'. | |
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Cloudbuster said: It's fantastic for sure. But my fave of hers is Hejira which I consider to be her last truly great album. Don Juan's Reckless Daughter is very good, tho'.
"Summer Lawns" is cool, but gets a bit dragging in places "Hejira" is good from start to finish! and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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IstenSzek said: Cloudbuster said: It's fantastic for sure. But my fave of hers is Hejira which I consider to be her last truly great album. Don Juan's Reckless Daughter is very good, tho'.
"Summer Lawns" is cool, but gets a bit dragging in places "Hejira" is good from start to finish! I think we were seperated at birth. | |
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This is one of those albums I am always in the mood to listen to. My favorite Joni album hands down. I am beyond confused why anyone from Rolling Stone would loathe this album so much, but I bet they are kicking themselves for that to this day. | |
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It's a very weird album (after all these years I'm still just now getting The Jungle Line) but not every song is weird.
In France They Kiss on Main Street is classic Joni, and shouldn't shock fans of Court & Spark. Don't Interrupt the Sorrow is classic Joni. And how could anyone hate the title track? Edith & the Kingpin is a prelude to the Mingus album, far jazzier than anything she'd ever done, but not that out there Harry's House, however, particularly strikes me as odd. I don't know what it is exactly. Maybe it's the noises ("I said get down off of there!") or the two songs in one factor. I also like her voice from this period, when smoking had given her a smoky quality, as opposed to her early pixie voice or her later Lucille Ball voice. The album is one of those few that seems like you could listen forever and not get it completely--that is, not get sick of it. Check this song out at:
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I really like this album, but for me personally, I like Blue and Court and Spark the best. It is growing on me though, and I absolutely love "In France People Kiss on Main Street". I like Joni best when it's just her and a guitar though. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: I really like this album, but for me personally, I like Blue and Court and Spark the best. It is growing on me though, and I absolutely love "In France People Kiss on Main Street". I like Joni best when it's just her and a guitar though.
I like Court & Spark the best. I like her full band stuff--Free Man in Paris, Raised on Robbery, etc--and there's lots of that on there. Plus I think she'd fully matured at that point, where Blue was still maybe just a tad naive (not that naive is bad). But guitar & voice is the classic Joni sound (like Dylan, who I also prefer with a band). Have you heard Hejira? It's a step back into the acoustic world. Check this song out at:
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andyman91 said: minneapolisgenius said: I really like this album, but for me personally, I like Blue and Court and Spark the best. It is growing on me though, and I absolutely love "In France People Kiss on Main Street". I like Joni best when it's just her and a guitar though.
I like Court & Spark the best. I like her full band stuff--Free Man in Paris, Raised on Robbery, etc--and there's lots of that on there. Plus I think she'd fully matured at that point, where Blue was still maybe just a tad naive (not that naive is bad). But guitar & voice is the classic Joni sound (like Dylan, who I also prefer with a band). Have you heard Hejira? It's a step back into the acoustic world. Yeah, I have heard Hejira, but I borrowed it from a friend and don't have it with me at the moment. I do like it though, I just haven't heard it enough to really post an opinion about it yet. In fact, this thread inspired me to put on Blue, Hissing, and Court on now all in a row. I guess I just like Blue the most because it's what really inspired me to learn guitar. (not that I can even play for shit anyway ) "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: andyman91 said: I like Court & Spark the best. I like her full band stuff--Free Man in Paris, Raised on Robbery, etc--and there's lots of that on there. Plus I think she'd fully matured at that point, where Blue was still maybe just a tad naive (not that naive is bad). But guitar & voice is the classic Joni sound (like Dylan, who I also prefer with a band). Have you heard Hejira? It's a step back into the acoustic world. Yeah, I have heard Hejira, but I borrowed it from a friend and don't have it with me at the moment. I do like it though, I just haven't heard it enough to really post an opinion about it yet. In fact, this thread inspired me to put on Blue, Hissing, and Court on now all in a row. I guess I just like Blue the most because it's what really inspired me to learn guitar. (not that I can even play for shit anyway ) These avatars! Of course I assumed you were an amazing guitar player. Blue is an amazing collection of songs. I guess it's her voice as much as anything that I prefer on Court. Hejira is more subtle, the songs longer. Good road trip music. For the Roses is pretty good, too. A transition between Blue & Court & Spark. Not quite as good as either, but with elements of both, and some great songs. She's fun to play along with. Obvious since she's played with some of the great guitar players--Robben Ford, Jaco. [Edited 8/18/05 15:57pm] Check this song out at:
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andyman91 said: minneapolisgenius said: Yeah, I have heard Hejira, but I borrowed it from a friend and don't have it with me at the moment. I do like it though, I just haven't heard it enough to really post an opinion about it yet. In fact, this thread inspired me to put on Blue, Hissing, and Court on now all in a row. I guess I just like Blue the most because it's what really inspired me to learn guitar. (not that I can even play for shit anyway ) These avatars! Of course I assumed you were an amazing guitar player. Blue is an amazing collection of songs. I guess it's her voice as much as anything that I prefer on Court. Hejira is more subtle, the songs longer. Good road trip music. For the Roses is pretty good, too. A transition between Blue & Court & Spark. Not quite as good as either, but with elements of both, and some great songs. She's fun to play along with. Obvious since she's played with some of the great guitar players--Robben Ford, Jaco. [Edited 8/18/05 15:57pm] No I really do suck though. I don't have For the Roses yet. Sounds cool though. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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I first got hipped to this from my mother. She played this album quite a bit. When I was little, it, like so many other albums, were always in the background of my mind. Of course when I got older, I really dug it. Still do. I like Joni. This album and her "Blue" album, I like a lot. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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I've been into Joni for quite awhile now, but this album just sorta went under my radar. I guess I just focused on her oldest stuff. But I'm really loving it. Could easily turn into a favorite. | |
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GangstaFam said: I've been into Joni for quite awhile now, but this album just sorta went under my radar. I guess I just focused on her oldest stuff. But I'm really loving it. Could easily turn into a favorite.
Keep at it, man. It's a great piece of work. | |
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Cloudbuster said: GangstaFam said: I've been into Joni for quite awhile now, but this album just sorta went under my radar. I guess I just focused on her oldest stuff. But I'm really loving it. Could easily turn into a favorite.
Keep at it, man. It's a great piece of work. Indeed. One of the most moving albums I've ever heard and you find little nuances with each spend. Easily my favorite Joni Mitchell album. | |
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Loving it! | |
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she might be snorting her ass off with cocaine but the record is just beautiful.
my favourite moments or songs on this record: IN FRANCE THEY KISSED ON MAIN STREET EDITH AND THE KINGPIN ("the wires in the wall are hu-u-u-u-mming") the beginning of THE HISSING OF SUMMER LAWNS THE BOHO DANCE segueing into HARRY'S HOUSE/CENTERPIECE with the trumpet sounding like the plane CENTERPIECE in HARRY'S HOUSE/CENTERPIECE and don't forget the picture of Joni in the swimmingpool. yes SIR! | |
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DorothyParkerWasCool said: I have been jamming Joni Mitchell's 1975 masterwork The Hissing of Summer Lawns for the last two weeks. The album is simply brilliant and oh so intelligently executed. The poetic lyrics, the cautionary tales about imprisonment in suburbia, the plight of women, spirituality, F U to the mainstream etc., all combine to make one of the most rewarding listening experiences I've ever encountered. I love how she seduces the listener with breezy up beat folk/pop of the opening track then delves into heavier themes that were hinted at on the opener. Prince was quoted as saying that this was one of the first albums he ever enjoyed from start to finish and I can definitely feel where he is coming from. Furthermore, the albums appreciation long after its initial release is a testament to Mitchell's geninus and proves that she was miles ahead of her peers. It also shows that critical reviews should be taken with a grain of salt, considering that Rolling Stone voted this the worst album of 1975. I'm still trying to figure out why some people consider this album so impenetrable. I know its free of repetitive hooks and the songs straddle various genres, but somehow the album still feels accessible. I absolutely agree. I think it's one of Joni's best! Unfortunately the critics missed out on this gem! | |
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i remember buying this in high school after reading it was one of Prince's favorite albums. i got chills down my spine while listening to it for the first time, thinking to myself i have discovered the source.
IMO, you can hear a lot of Joni's influence on P's first 2 albums. | |
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