Novabreaker said:

Better eyeliner and at he doesn't look stupid with facial hair

Fact is many MJ fans judge MJ on his record sales i.e. biggest selling artist = best, but Prince fans judge prince on how many instruments he can play, most instruments = best.

Truth is u can play all the instruments in the world and still be a crap musician. Prince simply doesnt have the same qualities that MJ has, MJ's music unites the world, everyone in every corner of the earth loves at least a few MJ songs. Prince's music is divisive/argumentative and doesnt have the same effect/power that MJ's does.

Fact is many MJ fans judge MJ on his record sales i.e. biggest selling artist = best, but Prince fans judge prince on how many instruments he can play, most instruments = best.

Truth is u can play all the instruments in the world and still be a crap musician. Prince simply doesnt have the same qualities that MJ has, MJ's music unites the world, everyone in every corner of the earth loves at least a few MJ songs. Prince's music is divisive/argumentative and doesnt have the same effect/power that MJ's does.

Moonwalkbjrain said:

There's great difference between intentionally going overboard with make-up for a photoshoot once in a while, and walking around looking like a strangled chihuaha

thats something im so sick of people saying, that he hasnt made great music since thriller, i hate how people make that out as a fact when its only peoples opinons. in MY opnion and in alot of other peoples opinions, michaels latter work far outweighs his past. 'history' and 'blood on the dancefloor' is his best album to me and his most artistic and greatest work and of course absolutely genius. of course thats just my opinion, and im not acting like its fact, it just bothers me when people act like he hasnt had one good song and hasnt done anything with his life since thriller. 'off the wall' in my opinion is actually my least favourite and least listened to album of his, i dont see genius in it whatsoever except for 'dont stop till you get enough' and thats michaels writing and compsoing.

"He's hardly the greatest performer of all time.. not only is he a shameless, overly rehearsed lip-syncher and old-hat dancer, but since the "Victory" tour with his brothers, he's done almost nothing but feed his audiences the same old cheap, rehashed shit, topped off with some unimpressive pyrotechnics and showy stunts."

i suppose you got the talent to dance better, sing better, write better songs too,

fucking retard

rehashed shit?

who the fuck are you to call rehashed?

you are full of shit

fuck the face, nose jobs, etc

end of the day

the music is the shit

off the wall, thriller etc are the dogs nuts

if you cant accept it,

stick a dildo up your arse or fanny depending on which you like

you are an insult to retards

Off The Wall is actually my fave MJ album, but sure, I hear what you're saying. How people can think the likes of Man In The Mirror, Smooth Criminal, Who Is It, Will You Be There, Remember The Time, In The Closet, Stranger In Moscow, They Don't Care About Us, Morphine, Butterflies, You Rock My World, Whatever Happens... etc aren't up there with the best of his earlier stuff is beyond me.
It's like saying Prince hasn't made a decent song since Purple Rain. Utter bollocks.

*cough* I'm in a select few group of people who know what he's planning - I have friends working for a fanclub who have been in contact with him for a while...

Agh, you'll never believe me because I've been sworn to secrecy and I can't hint. I shouldn't even know.

I can't even say any particular era I like more than others. It's a total mixed bag with me.

7. Prince is more accessable to his fans. I know this sounds weird, but Prince often opens up his recording studios for his fans to tour (as MJ does with Neverland. However, the difference is the fact that Prince will often do intimate late night shows at his place with a few hundred fans. These gigs used to cost maybe $7. Often they were free. Prince casually walks amongst the crowd at these shows and just hangs out. I bet you'd be hard pressed to name another "reclusive" superstar of Prince's magnitude that allows his hardcore fans to get so close.

Prince and Michael Jackson are my 2 favorite musicians/artists/performers. As a huge fan of both, let me give you 10 reasons that I like Prince better.

1. Prince has more music. Prince simply has a ton more music than MJ for his fans to listen to. Some will argue that MJ has less "crappy music" and that he has a better filter however, besides being a totally subjective statement, this is simply not true. Pound for pound, MJ has made just as much "average" music as PRince has. As a fan of both, I am happy to have stacks of Prince albums and sad to have roughly 6 legit MJ albums since 1979. Waiting 5+ years between MJ albums sucks and lately it hasn't been worth the wait. If I don't like Prince's latest album, within a year or so I'll have a new one.

2. It is arguable who is a better live performer. Critics and fans alike both herald Prince and MJ as two of the best showman ever. Take your pick. That being said, Prince concerts are more "live" than MJ. Prince's shows are not as rehearesed and are more spontaneous-the energy is different. Plus, Prince's live show is not the same as it has been since 1988. The fact is that, they are both great and you cannot definitively say one is head and shoulders above the other in this regard. MJ cannot work an audience like Prince. Prince's shows are more audience involving than MJ. MJ's show are like going to a movie. It's a performance that could happen the same no matter the audience. Because of the nature of his concerts, Prince always takes the crowd into account and his concerts change based on the crowd. When did MJ last let audience members (who weren't planted groupies) up onstage to dance? Prince has an actual band that he leads, guides, and plays with. MJ just has hired musicians put together for a tour. Sheryl Crow used to play in MJ's "band" and was quoted as saying that MJ didn't know her name. I assure you, Prince knows his band.

3. It is easier to defend Prince's actions. Hey Prince changed his name to an unpronouncable symbol-super weird right? However, it is rockstar weird. MJ used to just be rockstar weird, now he is scary and creepy weird. MJ's personal life has overshadowed his art, and forced his music to take a back seat to his circus and court appearances.

4. Prince evolves. Don't get me wrong, as a fan of Mj I realize he has grown as an artist. However, every one of his albums is chasing after "Thriller", both in style, and in sales figures. Prince is not constantly trying to top, redo, outdo, or copy "Purple Rain". MJ got himself in a rut.

5. Prince has more variety to his music. Sure, MJ's pop sweeps over different genres, but not as aggressively as Prince does it. When was the last time MJ did a solo acoustic guitar album? A solo piano album? An instrumental album? A blues rock album? A jazz/funk album? Not only does Prince do different types of music from album to album. Often, he'll do it from song to song on one album. Hardly anyone crosses genres as effectively as Prince. MJ definitely does not.

6. Prince is more true to himself musically. Lately, MJ has gotten into the habit of hiring a load of "hot" producers to give him the latest sound, but it makes MJ's music seem contrived, forced, and not authentic. Even, when Prince is biting new trends he still sounds like Prince. He sounds authentic. You might not like Prince's rapping, but "pussy control" is a club anthem whether you like it or not. MJ singing things like "2000 Watts" seems artificial and forced-it's hard to believe MJ feels what he is singing.

7. Prince is more accessable to his fans. I know this sounds weird, but Prince often opens up his recording studios for his fans to tour (as MJ does with Neverland. However, the difference is the fact that Prince will often do intimate late night shows at his place with a few hundred fans. These gigs used to cost maybe $7. Often they were free. Prince casually walks amongst the crowd at these shows and just hangs out. I bet you'd be hard pressed to name another "reclusive" superstar of Prince's magnitude that allows his hardcore fans to get so close.

8. Prince's lyrical themes are more varied and more mature. How many monster and ghost songs can MJ do? How many of us still relate to that? Prince's music is often accused of being all sexual, but the fact is that his relationship based lyrics are more complex than MJ, more sincere, and more believable. Love, romance, sex, and God are questions and themes that all humans ask and deal with. Prince explores these themes with authenticity and an undertsanding that MJ has rarely, if ever, been able to capture. Prince also can do the fantastical, kid's stuff-look at the "batman" album. That album was fairly complex and mature for a superhero album.

9. Onstage- Prince sings.Prince dances. Prince plays guitar. Prince plays piano/keyboard. Prince plays drums. Prince plays bass guitar.

Onstage-MJ dances, MJ sings. We MJ fans often argue that he does these better than anyone else. That is opinion.

Fact is, Prince does more onstage than MJ. He does all of these really really well. Better singer and dancer than MJ? Some think so. However, without a doubt Prince is more varied onstage than MJ.

10. Prince has hot female backup dancers. MJ's back up dancers seem like Madonna's leftovers.
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And of the 3...Madonna is probably the MOST influential of all of them. Sorry to say it, but it's true. For Girl Music, Dance Music, & Pop Music, she's had it down from the start. Not to mention MANY fashion trends (Oh yeah MJ had them clamouring for that glove).

Prince and Michael Jackson are my 2 favorite musicians/artists/performers. As a huge fan of both, let me give you 10 reasons that I like Prince better.

1. Prince has more music. Prince simply has a ton more music than MJ for his fans to listen to. Some will argue that MJ has less "crappy music" and that he has a better filter however, besides being a totally subjective statement, this is simply not true. Pound for pound, MJ has made just as much "average" music as PRince has. As a fan of both, I am happy to have stacks of Prince albums and sad to have roughly 6 legit MJ albums since 1979. Waiting 5+ years between MJ albums sucks and lately it hasn't been worth the wait. If I don't like Prince's latest album, within a year or so I'll have a new one.

2. It is arguable who is a better live performer. Critics and fans alike both herald Prince and MJ as two of the best showman ever. Take your pick. That being said, Prince concerts are more "live" than MJ. Prince's shows are not as rehearesed and are more spontaneous-the energy is different. Plus, Prince's live show is not the same as it has been since 1988. The fact is that, they are both great and you cannot definitively say one is head and shoulders above the other in this regard. MJ cannot work an audience like Prince. Prince's shows are more audience involving than MJ. MJ's show are like going to a movie. It's a performance that could happen the same no matter the audience. Because of the nature of his concerts, Prince always takes the crowd into account and his concerts change based on the crowd. When did MJ last let audience members (who weren't planted groupies) up onstage to dance? Prince has an actual band that he leads, guides, and plays with. MJ just has hired musicians put together for a tour. Sheryl Crow used to play in MJ's "band" and was quoted as saying that MJ didn't know her name. I assure you, Prince knows his band.

3. It is easier to defend Prince's actions. Hey Prince changed his name to an unpronouncable symbol-super weird right? However, it is rockstar weird. MJ used to just be rockstar weird, now he is scary and creepy weird. MJ's personal life has overshadowed his art, and forced his music to take a back seat to his circus and court appearances.

4. Prince evolves. Don't get me wrong, as a fan of Mj I realize he has grown as an artist. However, every one of his albums is chasing after "Thriller", both in style, and in sales figures. Prince is not constantly trying to top, redo, outdo, or copy "Purple Rain". MJ got himself in a rut.

5. Prince has more variety to his music. Sure, MJ's pop sweeps over different genres, but not as aggressively as Prince does it. When was the last time MJ did a solo acoustic guitar album? A solo piano album? An instrumental album? A blues rock album? A jazz/funk album? Not only does Prince do different types of music from album to album. Often, he'll do it from song to song on one album. Hardly anyone crosses genres as effectively as Prince. MJ definitely does not.

6. Prince is more true to himself musically. Lately, MJ has gotten into the habit of hiring a load of "hot" producers to give him the latest sound, but it makes MJ's music seem contrived, forced, and not authentic. Even, when Prince is biting new trends he still sounds like Prince. He sounds authentic. You might not like Prince's rapping, but "pussy control" is a club anthem whether you like it or not. MJ singing things like "2000 Watts" seems artificial and forced-it's hard to believe MJ feels what he is singing.

7. Prince is more accessable to his fans. I know this sounds weird, but Prince often opens up his recording studios for his fans to tour (as MJ does with Neverland. However, the difference is the fact that Prince will often do intimate late night shows at his place with a few hundred fans. These gigs used to cost maybe $7. Often they were free. Prince casually walks amongst the crowd at these shows and just hangs out. I bet you'd be hard pressed to name another "reclusive" superstar of Prince's magnitude that allows his hardcore fans to get so close.

8. Prince's lyrical themes are more varied and more mature. How many monster and ghost songs can MJ do? How many of us still relate to that? Prince's music is often accused of being all sexual, but the fact is that his relationship based lyrics are more complex than MJ, more sincere, and more believable. Love, romance, sex, and God are questions and themes that all humans ask and deal with. Prince explores these themes with authenticity and an undertsanding that MJ has rarely, if ever, been able to capture. Prince also can do the fantastical, kid's stuff-look at the "batman" album. That album was fairly complex and mature for a superhero album.

9. Onstage- Prince sings.Prince dances. Prince plays guitar. Prince plays piano/keyboard. Prince plays drums. Prince plays bass guitar.

Onstage-MJ dances, MJ sings. We MJ fans often argue that he does these better than anyone else. That is opinion.

Fact is, Prince does more onstage than MJ. He does all of these really really well. Better singer and dancer than MJ? Some think so. However, without a doubt Prince is more varied onstage than MJ.

10. Prince has hot female backup dancers. MJ's back up dancers seem like Madonna's leftovers.
[Edited 8/17/05 9:06am]

Prince and Michael Jackson are my 2 favorite musicians/artists/performers. As a huge fan of both, let me give you 10 reasons that I like Prince better.

1. Prince has more music. Prince simply has a ton more music than MJ for his fans to listen to. Some will argue that MJ has less "crappy music" and that he has a better filter however, besides being a totally subjective statement, this is simply not true. Pound for pound, MJ has made just as much "average" music as PRince has. As a fan of both, I am happy to have stacks of Prince albums and sad to have roughly 6 legit MJ albums since 1979. Waiting 5+ years between MJ albums sucks and lately it hasn't been worth the wait. If I don't like Prince's latest album, within a year or so I'll have a new one.

2. It is arguable who is a better live performer. Critics and fans alike both herald Prince and MJ as two of the best showman ever. Take your pick. That being said, Prince concerts are more "live" than MJ. Prince's shows are not as rehearesed and are more spontaneous-the energy is different. Plus, Prince's live show is not the same as it has been since 1988. The fact is that, they are both great and you cannot definitively say one is head and shoulders above the other in this regard. MJ cannot work an audience like Prince. Prince's shows are more audience involving than MJ. MJ's show are like going to a movie. It's a performance that could happen the same no matter the audience. Because of the nature of his concerts, Prince always takes the crowd into account and his concerts change based on the crowd. When did MJ last let audience members (who weren't planted groupies) up onstage to dance? Prince has an actual band that he leads, guides, and plays with. MJ just has hired musicians put together for a tour. Sheryl Crow used to play in MJ's "band" and was quoted as saying that MJ didn't know her name. I assure you, Prince knows his band.

3. It is easier to defend Prince's actions. Hey Prince changed his name to an unpronouncable symbol-super weird right? However, it is rockstar weird. MJ used to just be rockstar weird, now he is scary and creepy weird. MJ's personal life has overshadowed his art, and forced his music to take a back seat to his circus and court appearances.

4. Prince evolves. Don't get me wrong, as a fan of Mj I realize he has grown as an artist. However, every one of his albums is chasing after "Thriller", both in style, and in sales figures. Prince is not constantly trying to top, redo, outdo, or copy "Purple Rain". MJ got himself in a rut.

5. Prince has more variety to his music. Sure, MJ's pop sweeps over different genres, but not as aggressively as Prince does it. When was the last time MJ did a solo acoustic guitar album? A solo piano album? An instrumental album? A blues rock album? A jazz/funk album? Not only does Prince do different types of music from album to album. Often, he'll do it from song to song on one album. Hardly anyone crosses genres as effectively as Prince. MJ definitely does not.

6. Prince is more true to himself musically. Lately, MJ has gotten into the habit of hiring a load of "hot" producers to give him the latest sound, but it makes MJ's music seem contrived, forced, and not authentic. Even, when Prince is biting new trends he still sounds like Prince. He sounds authentic. You might not like Prince's rapping, but "pussy control" is a club anthem whether you like it or not. MJ singing things like "2000 Watts" seems artificial and forced-it's hard to believe MJ feels what he is singing.

7. Prince is more accessable to his fans. I know this sounds weird, but Prince often opens up his recording studios for his fans to tour (as MJ does with Neverland. However, the difference is the fact that Prince will often do intimate late night shows at his place with a few hundred fans. These gigs used to cost maybe $7. Often they were free. Prince casually walks amongst the crowd at these shows and just hangs out. I bet you'd be hard pressed to name another "reclusive" superstar of Prince's magnitude that allows his hardcore fans to get so close.

8. Prince's lyrical themes are more varied and more mature. How many monster and ghost songs can MJ do? How many of us still relate to that? Prince's music is often accused of being all sexual, but the fact is that his relationship based lyrics are more complex than MJ, more sincere, and more believable. Love, romance, sex, and God are questions and themes that all humans ask and deal with. Prince explores these themes with authenticity and an undertsanding that MJ has rarely, if ever, been able to capture. Prince also can do the fantastical, kid's stuff-look at the "batman" album. That album was fairly complex and mature for a superhero album.

9. Onstage- Prince sings.Prince dances. Prince plays guitar. Prince plays piano/keyboard. Prince plays drums. Prince plays bass guitar.

Onstage-MJ dances, MJ sings. We MJ fans often argue that he does these better than anyone else. That is opinion.

Fact is, Prince does more onstage than MJ. He does all of these really really well. Better singer and dancer than MJ? Some think so. However, without a doubt Prince is more varied onstage than MJ.

10. Prince has hot female backup dancers. MJ's back up dancers seem like Madonna's leftovers.
[Edited 8/17/05 9:06am]

1. Prince has more music. Prince simply has a ton more music than MJ for his fans to listen to. Some will argue that MJ has less "crappy music" and that he has a better filter however, besides being a totally subjective statement, this is simply not true. Pound for pound, MJ has made just as much "average" music as PRince has. As a fan of both, I am happy to have stacks of Prince albums and sad to have roughly 6 legit MJ albums since 1979. Waiting 5+ years between MJ albums sucks and lately it hasn't been worth the wait. If I don't like Prince's latest album, within a year or so I'll have a new one.
take a back seat to his circus and court appearances.

4. Prince evolves. Don't get me wrong, as a fan of Mj I realize he has grown as an artist. However, every one of his albums is chasing after "Thriller", both in style, and in sales figures. Prince is not constantly trying to top, redo, outdo, or copy "Purple Rain". MJ got himself in a rut.

5. Prince has more variety to his music. Sure, MJ's pop sweeps over different genres, but not as aggressively as Prince does it. When was the last time MJ did a solo acoustic guitar album? A solo piano album? An instrumental album? A blues rock album? A jazz/funk album? Not only does Prince do different types of music from album to album. Often, he'll do it from song to song on one album. Hardly anyone crosses genres as effectively as Prince. MJ definitely does not.

6. Prince is more true to himself musically. Lately, MJ has gotten into the habit of hiring a load of "hot" producers to give him the latest sound, but it makes MJ's music seem contrived, forced, and not authentic. Even, when Prince is biting new trends he still sounds like Prince. He sounds authentic. You might not like Prince's rapping, but "pussy control" is a club anthem whether you like it or not. MJ singing things like "2000 Watts" seems artificial and forced-it's hard to believe MJ feels what he is singing.

7. Prince is more accessable to his fans. I know this sounds weird, but Prince often opens up his recording studios for his fans to tour (as MJ does with Neverland. However, the difference is the fact that Prince will often do intimate late night shows at his place with a few hundred fans. These gigs used to cost maybe $7. Often they were free. Prince casually walks amongst the crowd at these shows and just hangs out. I bet you'd be hard pressed to name another "reclusive" superstar of Prince's magnitude that allows his hardcore fans to get so close.

8. Prince's lyrical themes are more varied and more mature. How many monster and ghost songs can MJ do? How many of us still relate to that? Prince's music is often accused of being all sexual, but the fact is that his relationship based lyrics are more complex than MJ, more sincere, and more believable. Love, romance, sex, and God are questions and themes that all humans ask and deal with. Prince explores these themes with authenticity and an undertsanding that MJ has rarely, if ever, been able to capture. Prince also can do the fantastical, kid's stuff-look at the "batman" album. That album was fairly complex and mature for a superhero album.

Mike wouldn' t survive that. his fans are crazier.

its this kinda shit that pisses me off, michael jackson is a musical genius, most musicians would put him ahead of prince in every respect except the ability to actually play instruments. And MJ is way more talented than Bowie, MJ can produce his own music, which bowie has never done.

Bowie/Madonna/Bjork yes
MJ is kinda in a league of his own
then u have ppl like Prince/Sly/Stevie

FunkyBrotha said:

I am sorry but I have to dissagree here...Michael jackson is the greatest pop-musician ever who made some of the best pop-tracks in history.

Bowie is an artist who has created ART...no comparing the two.

You simpley can't put guys like Bowie, Reed, Jim Morrisson or Nick cave next to Michael jackson...They are modern day Poets. something completely different from what MJ has done or is doing.

kev1n said:

!!! exactly!!!!!

thing is u can NEVER compare michael and prince. they do two dif things. its a bit of an insult to BOTH of them in a way. prince is a INSTRUMENTALIST, he's music first and foremost. michael is a DANCER/ENTERTAINER, entertainment comes first and formost. comparing michael to prince is like comparing miles davis or jimi hendrix to michael. it would never be done and if it is it'd be insulting. they're in two dif. categeories. and u cant compare prince to micahel thats like comparin britney spears, 50cent or public enemy to prince. they in different categories. they do different things. a more realistic comparison would be to compare prince to rick james and michael to madonna.
or prince to jimi hendrix and michael to maybe the beatles (pop version)
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