Was a huge fan when I first registered here.. then I gradually woke up.

Rather than believing he's innocent simply because of sketchy families (most people who hang around stars are sketchy, anyway), I now think he was probably guilty. Too much, too many times, and too many people involved, and no amount of technical details about a wacky mother and hick lead DA or butt-kissing articles that "prove" his innocence are going to change that for me.

Remember the days when I used to ramble on trying to convince everybody the "Bad" album was original and underappreciated? I now realize that every album he's done since "Thriller" is overproduced, topically redundant pop rubbish with merely a couple saving graces. Michael Jackson is no musical genius to me: Anybody can write a catchy-ass pop song or produce rough demos with repetitive, simple melodies and lyrics.. he'd hardly be anywhere if it weren't for Quincy Jones' arranging, producing, and musician-selecting prowess and the predictable of-the-moment producers he's chosen since the late '80s that allow him to overcook their sound just because he's obsessed with making his records sound perfect and sell like hotcakes.

He's hardly the greatest performer of all time.. not only is he a shameless, overly rehearsed lip-syncher and old-hat dancer, but since the "Victory" tour with his brothers, he's done almost nothing but feed his audiences the same old cheap, rehashed shit, topped off with some unimpressive pyrotechnics and showy stunts.

And even if he's never laid a hand on a child in his life nor committed anything else inappropriate with them, I still think he's an extremely fucked-up man who's long overdue for therapy. Look at what he's done to himself, surgically.. that isn't the face of a sane man. And I just about pissed myself whenever that thread about how he was telling the truth when he said he's only had two surgeries was made. How does one acquire obvious huge facial changes that just about everybody has noticed over the years, a hideous pixie nose and severe upper lip nerve damage solely from aging and two little nose jobs? And before anybody says that people are being shallow when they dissect his plastic surgery, anybody that gets as much surgery as him in the first place and cares so much about his own looks is the shallow one, not us.

Did I mention his ego? Sure, some fans just LOVE it or don't even notice it, but to me, any man who floats a giant statue of himself down the River of Thames like some lunatic and has a painting of himself in the place of Christ in "The Last Supper" is nothing but a tremendeous, deluded wanker.

Even if his sexuality doesn't matter, I think he's mostly likely gay or bisexual, and if neither of those then at least plagued with major-league identity issues. Generally, normal, healthy heterosexual men don't haplessly parade around wearing nearly every kind of femininine makeup available, nor do they love leather and sequins as much as he does and brush their hair away from their eyes just like a woman.

A good deal (but notice I didn't say ALL) of his hardcore fans are as off-kilter as their idol.. no explanation necessary.

And that's about it. I don't care if I get thrashed for anything I said, either. It's my honest opinion and I'm entitled to it.

Who's the ignorant bitch again?

Was a huge fan when I first registered here.. then I gradually woke up.

Rather than believing he's innocent simply because of sketchy families (most people who hang around stars are sketchy, anyway), I now think he was probably guilty. Too much, too many times, and too many people involved, and no amount of technical details about a wacky mother and hick lead DA or butt-kissing articles that "prove" his innocence are going to change that for me.

Remember the days when I used to ramble on trying to convince everybody the "Bad" album was original and underappreciated? I now realize that every album he's done since "Thriller" is overproduced, topically redundant pop rubbish with merely a couple saving graces. Michael Jackson is no musical genius to me: Anybody can write a catchy-ass pop song or produce rough demos with repetitive, simple melodies and lyrics.. he'd hardly be anywhere if it weren't for Quincy Jones' arranging, producing, and musician-selecting prowess and the predictable of-the-moment producers he's chosen since the late '80s that allow him to overcook their sound just because he's obsessed with making his records sound perfect and sell like hotcakes.

He's hardly the greatest performer of all time.. not only is he a shameless, overly rehearsed lip-syncher and old-hat dancer, but since the "Victory" tour with his brothers, he's done almost nothing but feed his audiences the same old cheap, rehashed shit, topped off with some unimpressive pyrotechnics and showy stunts.

And even if he's never laid a hand on a child in his life nor committed anything else inappropriate with them, I still think he's an extremely fucked-up man who's long overdue for therapy. Look at what he's done to himself, surgically.. that isn't the face of a sane man. And I just about pissed myself whenever that thread about how he was telling the truth when he said he's only had two surgeries was made. How does one acquire obvious huge facial changes that just about everybody has noticed over the years, a hideous pixie nose and severe upper lip nerve damage solely from aging and two little nose jobs? And before anybody says that people are being shallow when they dissect his plastic surgery, anybody that gets as much surgery as him in the first place and cares so much about his own looks is the shallow one, not us.

Did I mention his ego? Sure, some fans just LOVE it or don't even notice it, but to me, any man who floats a giant statue of himself down the River of Thames like some lunatic and has a painting of himself in the place of Christ in "The Last Supper" is nothing but a tremendeous, deluded wanker.

Even if his sexuality doesn't matter, I think he's mostly likely gay or bisexual, and if neither of those then at least plagued with major-league identity issues. Generally, normal, healthy heterosexual men don't haplessly parade around wearing nearly every kind of femininine makeup available, nor do they love leather and sequins as much as he does and brush their hair away from their eyes just like a woman.

A good deal (but notice I didn't say ALL) of his hardcore fans are as off-kilter as their idol.. no explanation necessary.

And that's about it. I don't care if I get thrashed for anything I said, either. It's my honest opinion and I'm entitled to it.

Oh pipe down, everyone doesn't hate America. It's more like people hate American government policy and the "we're number one, fuck everyone else" stance, which unfortunately some people are too dim to look at things from a different angle and form their own opinion.

WHich is? Please you are on a roll. I want to know the reality I am not seeing.

Oh pipe down, everyone doesn't hate America. It's more like people hate American government policy and the "we're number one, fuck everyone else" stance, which unfortunately some people are too dim to look at things from a different angle and form their own opinion.

Oh Yes they do.

if everyone hates America so much, why are people all over the world literally DYING to get here?

You are such a bitch. An ignorant bitch. Look I wish he looked like he did back in the 80s cuz he was pretty damn fine. But things change. U know it's possible that he has a skin disorder..but well can't be true so he lied about how many plastic surguries he had on his nose. Whatever. Get over it. There's nothing anyone can do about it. It's his problem not ours and dwelling on what he looks like isn't gonna change anything. It doesn't make him less of a performer or an entertainer. It's none of our business what he does with his apperance so get over it. I hope Michael moves out of the U.S. and not have to deal with these snotty nose,arrogant, ignorant, judgemental americans. And some americans wonder why that every country hates them.

Who the fuck writes, arranges, plays and performs every note of their albums? Hell, not even Prince does that all the time. Name me 5 with any kind of commercial success. Why criticise someone who doesn't when they do 90% more than most other pop artists do on their albums anyway?

It is u that's ignorant. I happen 2 agree with sqiddyren. Why do people call him the King of Pop when u have Prince around? Let's face facts,MJ can't sell a record without some big-name record producer(read:a song doctor) behind him. Prince has and can do it all by himself. Can u name 1 album that MJ written,produced,engineered,arranged as well as per4med on? The man is a washed up,ugly,trifiling,outdated,twisted,kid toucher who needs 2 go somewhere and artificially inseminate butt-ugly Debbie Rowe so he can dangle that kid off a balcony.I'm an American and a Prince fan who is proud 2 b both.

Who the fuck writes, arranges, plays and performs every note of their albums? Hell, not even Prince does that all the time. Name me 5 with any kind of commercial success. Why criticise someone who doesn't when they do 90% more than most other pop artists do on their albums anyway?

dont kid urself, aint no way Prince could be the King of pop. u may not like him
but michael revolutionized music, music videos and dancing forevr. i use revolutionized beacuse in his case it is totally applicable. Michael is probably the most influential artist of the last 25 years. his influence can still be seen in some of todays artists like Usher() Justin Timberlake, Justin Guarini, omarion and coountless others. further proof is his record sales Thriller is the biggest selling album of all time with sales in the U.s of 25 Million and total worldwide sales of bout 50 million copies. Prince's biggest seller is Purple Rain which has only sold about 11 million copies in the U.s and 18 million copies worldwide (don't quote me on that), while some of u may argue that recoed sales cannot be equated with artisitc ability or talent (further evidenced by many of today's bullshit artists) None of u can deny Michael's songwriting ability and his vocal capabilities. not to mention that his dancing is absolutely superb & (he is unrivaled in that category ) how many stars can sya they have had as much inflluence over Generations like Michael has?? very few....

But then again it's hard to know that when you are 19 and from Cincinatti OH.

Interesting. I really don't see MJ's influence that much. If you listen to a lot of the R&B from the 80's, I have to say P was ripped off more than MJ. It's becasue there was more music. It's hard to influence or be "the most influential" with just a handful of albums under your belt.

Seriously Madonna is more influential than MJ. And Thriller is NOT the best selling album of all time...it's the Eagles.

The Eagles have only outsold michael in the us with 27 Million copies(to Mj's 25 million) but worldwide thriller is still the biggest selling album to date. while it may be hard to influence with just a handful of albums under your belt, it is not that hard when those handful of albums have probably done more for music than the 167 albums prince has realeased over the last 40 years. anybody who looks at Usher dance can clearly see Mj's influence(the way he slides, the break dance moves, the handmovements etc.) also Michael's influence cna laso be heard in usher's singing style and Justin Timberlake's for that matter. (many ppl i know thought that "cry me a river' waz a michael jackson song) and Madonna?? i would hardly call Madonna Influential