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PrintableThis whole thread is on something else, She's succesful because people like her music. just like anyone else who is succesfull. you can go on about how sony may have tried and got her singles high on the charts in th u.s, but 160 million people bought her albums around the world at regular price  , who do u explain that? | |
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TRON said: VoicesCarry said: But I'm leavin' this place soon, so who gives a fuck, anyway?
 Wait! I missed that part! Why you leavin'? We may not always agree, but I've always enjoyed your presence around here. You're a smart cookie and one of the org's best. everybody needs a break once in awhile. "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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GrayKing said: everybody needs a break once in awhile.
that's true. | |
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GrayKing said: TRON said: Wait! I missed that part! Why you leavin'? We may not always agree, but I've always enjoyed your presence around here. You're a smart cookie and one of the org's best. everybody needs a break once in awhile.  | |
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GrayKing said: TRON said: Wait! I missed that part! Why you leavin'? We may not always agree, but I've always enjoyed your presence around here. You're a smart cookie and one of the org's best. everybody needs a break once in awhile. A break away from all of these pricks.  | |
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Prospect said: GrayKing said: everybody needs a break once in awhile. A break away from all of these pricks. sure, i supose. and from being one. it's good to step away to find a fresh point of view to approach the place. "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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VoicesCarry said: GangstaFam said: Who's Ian? You sounded like you were ready to pounce for me making a comment about Janet. Sorry if I misinterpreted. I don't just bash her constantly. I have good things to say too. She's just really disappointed me lately. I used to love her, even up through "All For You", which most people seem to hate. Everything lately though, I just can't vibe off of. Madonna, I haven't felt that kinda letdown with before. But I can feel myself turning against her sometimes too. I was pissed about the ticket situation on the last tour and especially that she didn't even play her hometown. I hated the way she promoted (or didn't promote) American Life. Most of it went directly against the kind of stuff she was singing about. Didn't like that. Mariah, I'm not a huge fan of. I just like her. She makes me laugh. And I think she's talented and got some really good songs. I just jump to her defense sometimes because people can be so ruthless. Bashing Janet when we're discussing Madonna or Mariah is just as much of a copout as suggesting Madonna's entire career is built on sex.  But I'm leavin' this place soon, so who gives a fuck, anyway?
And I thought you, Ian, and TRON were the same people; clearly, I got another crazy orger mixed up with you guys, though. [Edited 8/14/05 17:54pm] no don't do it brotha! stay stay stay I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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Obsession with her own legs. That's to explain it. | |
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badujunkie said: ...I have liked a handful of her singles...but not ONE album is an even, solid listen all the way through except for maybe her debut...if you're into that kind of music. her newest record is kinda cool, there are some nice songs, but a lot of it is just shit. i like "we belong together" actually but number 1 for 11 weeks...i mean c'mon...someone! why is this bitch the second biggest female star ever?
Mariah is successful because she has a wonderful voice....catchy,radio-friendly songs that appeal to a wide audience...and a strong,supportive record label that makes sure her music is heard.But I agree with you,some of her albums are uneven.I consider her more of a "singles artist" anyway. | |
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Mariah is successful because she has a wonderful voice....catchy,radio-friendly songs that appeal to a wide audience...and a strong,supportive record label that makes sure her music is heard.But I agree with you,some of her albums are uneven.I consider her more of a "singles artist" anyway.
Yep. Badujunkie is just hating cuz she is a Janet fan and she knows that Janet will never sell records again after the superbowl incident. | |
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She has a five octave voice and a body like a brick shit house. All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: Mariah is successful because she has a wonderful voice....catchy,radio-friendly songs that appeal to a wide audience...and a strong,supportive record label that makes sure her music is heard.But I agree with you,some of her albums are uneven.I consider her more of a "singles artist" anyway.
Yep. Badujunkie is just hating cuz she is a Janet fan and she knows that Janet will never sell records again after the superbowl incident. I'm a he. And Janet will sell at least two or three million of her next release...compare Damita Jo's totals to the Glitter soundtrack and smoke that. I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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2freaky4church1 said: She has a five octave voice and a body like a brick shit house.
and that's the long and short of it all. | |
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badujunkie said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: Yep. Badujunkie is just hating cuz she is a Janet fan and she knows that Janet will never sell records again after the superbowl incident. I'm a he. And Janet will sell at least two or three million of her next release...compare Damita Jo's totals to the Glitter soundtrack and smoke that. They both sold about 2 million worldwide , 
hating on Mariah will not make Janet more succesful. You know Bjork's Vespertine almost out sold "Glitter" that year!
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GrayKing said: ironically, it's when she started going the hip-hop route that things began to go south (creatively and commercially), aside from the occasional hot track. she traded in a time-tested, proven, loyal audience (adult contemporary) to a fickle, trend-mongering one (contemporary r&b/hip-hop). . I told my husband when she left Tommy, that the reason was that she wanted to act, dance and try to act like a hip hop... and Tommy didn't get his position because he was stupid... he KNEW that Mariah is a terrible actress, stiff as a board dancer (definitely no janet) and could never be hip hop, she just doesn't have it. and I think THAT is the reason she and Tommy had a falling out. She says he was "so controlling" it is really because he knew she was focking up. and she did! "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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I am shocked beyond belief that she actually has a #1 hit. I really thought she was finished. But notice that this song sound a lot like the songs she was singing around the time of "Dream Lover" "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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lilgish said: GangstaFam said: I can think of a few reasons.
 This explains why Mariah fell off. When she got provocative no one cared or believed it. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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Boo  Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records. | |
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badujunkie said: ...I have liked a handful of her singles...but not ONE album is an even, solid listen all the way through except for maybe her debut...if you're into that kind of music. her newest record is kinda cool, there are some nice songs, but a lot of it is just shit. i like "we belong together" actually but number 1 for 11 weeks...i mean c'mon...someone! why is this bitch the second biggest female star ever?
1. Mariah can sing. 2. Mariah in one of the last of the masters of the 5 octave vocal range, a technique that could only be match by the late Minnie Riperton. 3. Mariah can at least write her own lyrics (catchy lyrics make great hit singles). 4. Mariah is sexy (especially for the legs & for that smile). 5. Mariah is THE female icon of the 1990's (equal to Madonna being THE female icon of the 1980's). 6. As far as world records in the music industry are concern, only Elvis, Michael Jackson, & The Beatles have better looking resumes than Mariah! 7. Mariah is multiracial!!! 8. Mariah's fan base is a mixture of people of a lot of different backgrounds (like the fan bases of Michael, Prince, Madonna, Janet, Kylie,.....well, you get the picture!).  [Edited 8/15/05 22:32pm] | |
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VoicesCarry said: An irresistible combination of undeniable talent, mediocrity, sugar daddies in high places, blow jobs, and Sony payola.
Could at least 3 out of THOSE 5 reasons be also apply to Madonna?!? j/k VC! | |
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prodigalfan said: GrayKing said: ironically, it's when she started going the hip-hop route that things began to go south (creatively and commercially), aside from the occasional hot track. she traded in a time-tested, proven, loyal audience (adult contemporary) to a fickle, trend-mongering one (contemporary r&b/hip-hop). . I told my husband when she left Tommy, that the reason was that she wanted to act, dance and try to act like a hip hop... and Tommy didn't get his position because he was stupid... he KNEW that Mariah is a terrible actress, stiff as a board dancer (definitely no janet) and could never be hip hop, she just doesn't have it. and I think THAT is the reason she and Tommy had a falling out. She says he was "so controlling" it is really because he knew she was focking up. and she did! If we're talking music BUSINESS, then Tommy was right to be concern! But we're talking about a marriage, then Tommy & Mariah should have never became a romance couple in the first place. Mariah was still young at the time & she wanted to go hit the clubs (especially the hip-hop joints) as much as possible & be wild and loose with her peers (like her girlfriends & younger men). Tommy (being the older man with his conservative ways) couldn't really keep up with that. | |
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lilgish said: GangstaFam said: I can think of a few reasons.
This explains why Mariah fell off. When she got provocative no one cared or believed it. ...except that it was a good idea at first: 
but a few years after, the overload:  [Edited 8/15/05 22:55pm] | |
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