VoicesCarry said:

THANK YOU!!!! Somebody sees the light...but my only thing is, why NOW is she on top, after they changed the chart formula, she's still NOT boning Tommy Mottola (as far as we know)...and isn't it funny that she's doing so well the same year her payola-benefactor-cousin JLo has her first flop album?

badujunkie said:

Why is she popular now? Because people are so starved for a voice and a melody that they'll actually listen to completely unoriginal, bland material like We Belong Together. Even if it's bland, IT IS STILL THE BEST THING ON CORPORATE RADIO! IDJ ran a smart campaign with this album. But don't think they're above the Mottola tactics and payola. The label gave away 25,000 free downloads of We Belong Together and counted them as sales in order to get the song to #1 a week earlier than it should have (Billboard has since altered its policy). Mariah is the biggest beneficiary of this sort of manipulation in chart history.

VoicesCarry said:



only people that are really cheap and have really bad taste would do that
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kinaldo said:

Meet the people who buy Mariah Carey records

/you asked for it

VoicesCarry said:

how can the woman hold her head up high when people say she's had more number 1s than everyone besides elvis and the beatles...sickness

badujunkie said:

Yeah, but how many of those songs can the average person even remember? I still think "One Sweet Day" is terrible, terrible stuff.

I'm sure labels will soon figure out that "selling" downloads for $0.01 each (which, unlike discounts on CD singles, loses them no money whatsoever) to boost their chart position is a viable option.
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Light skinded

I can think of a few reasons.

GangstaFam said:

This explains why Mariah fell off. When she got provocative no one cared or believed it.

lilgish said:

I never stopped liking her.

GangstaFam said:

With that expression, I expect her to be holding several lit doobies in one of those hands.

VoicesCarry said:

I think she's more of a coke and champagne kinda gal.

GangstaFam said:

Coke makes you lose weight. Mariah is on prescription antidepressants mixed with fattening alcohol.

VoicesCarry said:

You know this as fact?

GangstaFam said:

It's not hard to deduce that considering the glazed-over look she's had since the 2001 "breakdown". Half the time she looks like she's on lithium. It also explains why her voice has gone downhill since that breakdown.
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VoicesCarry said:

kinda like a healthier version of janet.

GangstaFam said:

ohhhh!!!

GangstaFam said:

Are you a Mariah fam as well as a Madonna fam? I need to get things straight before I post this shit.

VoicesCarry said:

No. I haven't gotten any of her albums since whatever the 3rd one was called. And I don't even think I own them anymore. I like some of her songs and her as a person though. And I'm not a Madonna fam either. Bjork and Tori, maybe. Madonna, no.

And don't act like Janet doesn't have that space cadet look too.

GangstaFam said:

Just where did I do that, Ian? You do enjoy bashing Janet for some reason, though. I thought it might be your fam status, since I've never really seen any negative comments from you about Mariah or Madge.

VoicesCarry said:

Who's Ian?

You sounded like you were ready to pounce for me making a comment about Janet. Sorry if I misinterpreted.

I don't just bash her constantly. I have good things to say too. She's just really disappointed me lately. I used to love her, even up through "All For You", which most people seem to hate. Everything lately though, I just can't vibe off of.

Madonna, I haven't felt that kinda letdown with before. But I can feel myself turning against her sometimes too. I was pissed about the ticket situation on the last tour and especially that she didn't even play her hometown. I hated the way she promoted (or didn't promote) American Life. Most of it went directly against the kind of stuff she was singing about. Didn't like that.

Mariah, I'm not a huge fan of. I just like her. She makes me laugh. And I think she's talented and got some really good songs. I just jump to her defense sometimes because people can be so ruthless.

GangstaFam said:

Bashing Janet when we're discussing Madonna or Mariah is just as much of a copout as suggesting Madonna's entire career is built on sex. But I'm leavin' this place soon, so who gives a fuck, anyway?

And I thought you, Ian, and TRON were the same people; clearly, I got another crazy orger mixed up with you guys, though.
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VoicesCarry said:

You calling me crazy? Thanks!

Just for clarification...

TRON = Gangstafam = Nathan

Moonbeam = my brother Ian

And Mariah, Madonna and Janet all make themselves easy targets. There's also a lot to like. The reason Janet frustrates the most out of the 3 is that she's fallen the furthest for me. I can see why anyone would be disappointed with all 3 of them though.

And for the record, haven't I noticed you bashing Mariah on several occasions? And yet you still say you like her. That's fine. Same as me with Janet. You can still like someone and be critical of them.

GangstaFam said:

I don't even give a fuck, anymore.

VoicesCarry said:

about?

TRON said:

This "issue" See you around....
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VoicesCarry said:

Wait! I missed that part! Why you leavin'?

We may not always agree, but I've always enjoyed your presence around here. You're a smart cookie and one of the org's best.

TRON said:

Probably because half of the people of this board are total pricks.

Prospect said:

that's nice.