Sdldawn said:

let's not forget The Man

sosgemini said:

So you saying MJ is a freaky devil boy who needs to be locked up in a cell?

I agree too!

lilgish said:

Paul also wrote Girlfriend.


which brings me back to my thread about the MJ/Stevie team-ups..... perhaps Michael just isn't mean to work with other talented singers. it only leads to banality.

GrayKing said:

Looking back, Everything MJ and Macca did together was terrible...

Sdldawn said:

frankly, pretty much all of Paul's post-68 material is awful. he's definitely got a sweet-tooth when it comes to songwriting.

speeddemon said:

I want you to believe it because its probably true. Every single year, The Sunday Times compiles a "Rich List" for the UK, and always has a section on musicians. Paul is regularly at the top of this list, having a fortune of roughly £800 million (which is at todays exchange almost $1.5 billion). MJ may have sold more records and take a slice of beatles royalties, but lets face it, the big bucks are made from touring, and Macca generally rakes in between £30-40 million a year from this (hes been touring constantly since about 2003).

I concede Jacko is more than likely a very very very rich man, but he is CLEARLY a very frivolous man also, with lawsuits (many relatingto UNPAID debt)coming out of his arse. Now i aint saying jacko's going to go broke, but if he was worth anything like a billion, these stories would have been ridiculously without foundation and would not have been reported so widely.

I know the media is never a reliable barrometer of what is true and what not, but logic alone would allow you to conclude that the man with a higher annual income and the seemingly lower spending patterns, would have amassed a greater fortune than the man with many many unpaid debts, a dwindling income, and lavish spending habbits!

The person who posted links to NME website etc, who believes that because said article is printed on such websites automatically believes that the information is factual needs a good ass whipping. Give me some REAL evidence that the comments are valid i.e. an audio or video or McCartney actually making the statements.

As for McCartney being smarter than me, well, he obviously wasnt that smart since MJ is making more $ from the Beatles than he is, and McCartney had enough capital to buy his shit, the man has spent the last twenty years regrettin the fact he's a fool.

Also, the article further on which talks about MJ selling the catalogue following the trial includes more lies. MJ did not sell half his catalogue to sony for £150 million or whatever amount, he MERGED his entire catalogue with Sony, it was another wise move since he makes more money from royalties under this deal. He did not do this because he needed money. He had just made a fortune from the Dangerous album/Tour, and got a massive upfront payment for the History album.

terryfrancis said:

Absolutely ugly and vile.

GrayKing said:

I like Girlfriend

I like The Girl is Mine

Pipes of Peace is ok

Tug of War is an excellent album though. I like both cuts with Stevie

FunkyBrotha said:

pay a visit to sony/atv site

remember,

MJ merged and owns HALF of Sony/ATV entire catalogue!

here a few selections of artists which MJ OWNS their songs rights!

http://www.sonyatv.com/fr...h/2/0.html


enjoy Paul you bitter jealous lonely 1 legged woman lover!


i bet MJ's singing "i'm king of the road" at Neverland while on the bog having a shit!

or maybe "smooth operator" while chasing the monkey's round Neverland

terryfrancis said:

Im sure its a nice little earner for him. He'd still make a shit load more money getting off his arse and touring again. He could own every song in the world and it still wouldn't command him the same respect that McCartney gets from other musicians. Why does McCartney command respect, because he's a proper musician. He writes & records his stuff and plays it live. Michael wont earn any respect from owning these songs, just make money. As it happens Paul will have both, money and respect.

CrozzaUK said:

As far as I can witness in the music world today, MJ is one if not the most influential artist in music and certainly one of the most respected. Do 18 Grammys mean something to you?
On the other hand, it seems to me Paul Mc Cartney is seen as a jerk who wrote after his Beatles fame crap music for old, adult, easy listening, boring pop music following the same formula. He never had the talent that John and George had.

GrayKing said:

Nah, I thought all his 70's stuff was very good. It was different from the beatle music, but I think thats good that he strayed from that sound.

80's is a different story.. there was only about an albums worth of songs that were great.

90's started picking back up, especially with Flaming Pie.. considering Somedays is one of his best written songs...

And I assure you this new album is gonna be great.. at least what i've heard is.

Ottensen said:

[snip-sos ]

speeddemon said:

haha oh please.. Ever heard some of his psuedo named albums? Perhaps the most experimental music out of the four. Paul's music (as like the other 2) was different from Beatle music.. He started at Square one when he left the beatles.. I admire him for going out on a limb and being different musically.

And let us not forget the contribution of Paul through out the entire catelog of the Beatles.. as john said "He makes the group strong" why? just look at the most important beatle songs to date.. Elenor Rigby, Yesterday, Hey Jude, Long and Winding Road, Let it Be, Helter Skelter (Most innovative in my opinion)
There are about what? Half the catelog im not mentioning here..So as far as his place in history, Dont even begin to downgrade someone as innovative as Paul. He is one of the most important composers of our time. If you dont dig his music.. thats fine, but to downgrade his spot in music history is just very idiotic.
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Sdldawn said:

Oh come on.. that wasnt that bad.. What I said makes me think its true now.. are you hiding something mod? I was trying to explain how a person who writes such nasty posts lives.. sheesh:-P
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mccartney is an old has been who is well past it,

he aint done jack shit since the Beatles so quit trying to come up with excuses,


he's a greedy bastard, selfish wallowing in his own self importance thinking he is some kind of important person,

Lennon and Harrison were more important than Mccartney,
at least they didnt make shit music after the Beatles,
they at least made good music

Mccartney is a has been, sad old twat, who is so bitter, that he wanted to change the "lennon & mcartney" to the order of "mccartney & lennon",

that shows you what kind of prick he is,

frankly,

it should have been Mccartney who was shot dead instead of Lennon,

then we wouldn't have to put up with his constant bullshit and whining,

he should learn to grow up and face facts,

he didnt value his own music highly enough and wasnt willing to pay,

end of story, so fuck him

he got what he deserved,


he is a disgrace to music and is frankly embarrising himself trying to be hip and trying to make music,

he can't craft a decent melody anymore and his lyrics are disposable shite,

he's not even fit to wipe Bob Dylan's arse,

even Bob Dylan, sitting on the toilet while having diarrohea can craft better music than Mccartney does today,


McCartney is a has been, end of story

Sdldawn said:

ie flaming....come on dude..lets debate the merrits of the arguement...not the person making them....

k?

terryfrancis said:

You come across as such a vile human being, I find it hard to believe you can really be as hideous as you communicate in your posts.

If you've ever heard Maybe Im Amazed, youd know that Paul wrote his very best song as a solo artist (and possibly the best song written by all 4 of them).

And 2 fucking right he's bitter. He's bitter that his contribution to the Beatles is constantly undermined by no marks like yourself who have no fucking knowledge or insight of the mans music whatsoever (or Beatles music for that matter). Yoko Ono has made it her personal goal in life, other than being a professinal widow, to downplay McCartneys role in the Beatles, so its no wonder the man has a complex. How do you live in the shadow of the myth of a dead man whos shit work is conveniently forgotten in favour of a handful of his great songs / albums?

Any dillusional twat who believes Lennon and Harrison never made shit albums outside the beatles has never listend to Mind Games, Double Fantsay, Dark Horse or Gone Troppo. Pauls only problem was his prolific output, he released twice as many records as lennon & Harrison in the 70's.

The anti-McCartney brigade irritate me to the point of agression. You cannot, I say CANNOT be a fan of the Beatles, and dismiss his contribution - its not possible.

sosgemini said:

That wasn't a flame.. I was bein nice saying that..

You'll know when I flame

CrozzaUK said:

Correct


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