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These Rap ARTISTS NOW MAKE ME SICK The more I read about them peddling CRACK,DRUGS and WEAPONS and being in Gangs and all this VIOLENCE..BORES ME!!! Just read 50 cent's posse all arrested in NYC. LIL KIM ARRESTED. DMX has his Problems. Why can't you make MUSIC WITHOUT WAREFARE and VIOLENCE? That's NOT COOL for the YOUTH of TODAY!!! I'm Bored.....How bout U? | |
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u're right... a lot of selfish people in this world... they get rich and famous, then they lose their heads... | |
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George Johnson had a very telling comment in the new Brothers Johnson DVD.
He said: "The weather's not clear in the industry right now. They are willing to finance drugs but not a "concept" like another "What's Going On". Something that will educate people and "grow them up." I don't want to mis-quote George so you can dig it on the DVD if you get a chance to watch it. | |
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cool quote... i agree. time for more edutainment... "what's going on" style. | |
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kids need to listen to hammer.
They got to pray just to make it today. [Edited 8/10/05 16:36pm] | |
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boredom is a dangerous thing. | |
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weepingwall said: boredom is a dangerous thing.
yes an idol mind is a dangerous mind... I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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thesexofit said: kids need to listen to hammer.
They got to pray just to make it today. [Edited 8/10/05 16:36pm]  Preach!!! Hammer, don't hurt 'em.Damn this kooky love affair.... | |
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Zelaira said: I love all this music and I Love P Diddy also. Fat Joe is Cool,Ludicris Rules and Snoop is Sexy as a Pimp. I also Love JayZ's sound sooo Much. I have always loved Rap and well what can I say? The Guys are Strapped Man and they sing all tough and all Sexin and well ya Gotta love them... Prince will Always be First but I Really Love the Rappers style....I get Bored when it's too Subdued. I like Wild and fast and Nasty and Raw. Just the way it is. I gotta have it like that as bad and as Nasty as it is I LOVe IT is All. 50 Cent is EXTREMELY SEXY and Sings all Tough...I Find him Very Hot....Ja has a Voice and he talks like he badass in the BEDROOM...Nelly is All into the WILD Thing and Ya got all Ludicris is PARTYING and Sex and well they are all WILD! ALL Wild and NASTY and I LIKE THAT...I REALLY DO!!! It's Party and Fun Music it don't gotta be all messages and meaningful just fun and games...
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CinisterCee said: Zelaira said: I love all this music and I Love P Diddy also. Fat Joe is Cool,Ludicris Rules and Snoop is Sexy as a Pimp. I also Love JayZ's sound sooo Much. I have always loved Rap and well what can I say? The Guys are Strapped Man and they sing all tough and all Sexin and well ya Gotta love them... Prince will Always be First but I Really Love the Rappers style....I get Bored when it's too Subdued. I like Wild and fast and Nasty and Raw. Just the way it is. I gotta have it like that as bad and as Nasty as it is I LOVe IT is All. 50 Cent is EXTREMELY SEXY and Sings all Tough...I Find him Very Hot....Ja has a Voice and he talks like he badass in the BEDROOM...Nelly is All into the WILD Thing and Ya got all Ludicris is PARTYING and Sex and well they are all WILD! ALL Wild and NASTY and I LIKE THAT...I REALLY DO!!! It's Party and Fun Music it don't gotta be all messages and meaningful just fun and games...
[Edited 8/30/04 23:02pm] http://www.prince.org/msg...80?jump=22 please tell me you're not taking ZELAIRA to task for consistency issues. i mean, even david cronenberg wasn't able to make a literal adaptation of 'naked lunch'... | |
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Zelaira said: The more I read about them peddling CRACK,DRUGS and WEAPONS and being in Gangs and all this VIOLENCE..BORES ME!!! Just read 50 cent's posse all arrested in NYC. LIL KIM ARRESTED. DMX has his Problems. Why can't you make MUSIC WITHOUT WAREFARE and VIOLENCE? That's NOT COOL for the YOUTH of TODAY!!! I'm Bored.....How bout U?
Courtney Love: numerous attacks and arrests for violence, drugs.... Axl Rose: arrested for battery of a female, instigating a riot, former drug addict/alcohol addict Member of Third Eye Blind pummels member of Green Day onstage/off Scott Weiland of Stone Temple Pilots, arrested numerous times for heroin use. Kurt Cobain "had his problems." Commits suicide. Lane Stanley of Alice in Chains. Dead of overdose just off the top of my head | |
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DiamondGirl said: Zelaira said: The more I read about them peddling CRACK,DRUGS and WEAPONS and being in Gangs and all this VIOLENCE..BORES ME!!! Just read 50 cent's posse all arrested in NYC. LIL KIM ARRESTED. DMX has his Problems. Why can't you make MUSIC WITHOUT WAREFARE and VIOLENCE? That's NOT COOL for the YOUTH of TODAY!!! I'm Bored.....How bout U?
Courtney Love: numerous attacks and arrests for violence, drugs.... Axl Rose: arrested for battery of a female, instigating a riot, former drug addict/alcohol addict Member of Third Eye Blind pummels member of Green Day onstage/off Scott Weiland of Stone Temple Pilots, arrested numerous times for heroin use. Kurt Cobain "had his problems." Commits suicide. Lane Stanley of Alice in Chains. Dead of overdose just off the top of my head uhm not that anything they are doing is any better...but 1. none of them are Rap artists...and fuck it 2.this sounds like a ploy to make this a black vs white thread. I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back. I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there. I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish. And I am | |
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cranshaw62 said: George Johnson had a very telling comment in the new Brothers Johnson DVD.
He said: "The weather's not clear in the industry right now. They are willing to finance drugs but not a "concept" like another "What's Going On". Something that will educate people and "grow them up." I don't want to mis-quote George so you can dig it on the DVD if you get a chance to watch it.  Just from what you're saying, the interview sounds pretty profound. The Org Funkologist  will have to check out that DVD. | |
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boriquateddy said: DiamondGirl said: Courtney Love: numerous attacks and arrests for violence, drugs.... Axl Rose: arrested for battery of a female, instigating a riot, former drug addict/alcohol addict Member of Third Eye Blind pummels member of Green Day onstage/off Scott Weiland of Stone Temple Pilots, arrested numerous times for heroin use. Kurt Cobain "had his problems." Commits suicide. Lane Stanley of Alice in Chains. Dead of overdose just off the top of my head uhm not that anything they are doing is any better... Thank you. So stop singling out one genre of music. | |
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DiamondGirl said: boriquateddy said: uhm not that anything they are doing is any better... Thank you. So stop singling out one genre of music. i'm not placing blame on the rap/hip-hop community, but i think there IS a pressure on mainstream rap artists to rely on cartoonish violence and hyper-materialism in their work and in their imagery in order to fulfill a standard of chart success. i don't think it was considered "trendy" for cobain to kill himself or for scott weiland to be a career junkie, any more than billie holiday was trying to be "hip" by having an addiction or any more than karen carpenter was trying to make anorexia cool. again, i'm not saying this to bust on hip-hop...i think the music industry is to blame. of course, the artists are complicit...but that's more of an individual thing than the fault of a genre. | |
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DiamondGirl said: boriquateddy said: uhm not that anything they are doing is any better... Thank you. So stop singling out one genre of music. it's true that they are not doing anything better, but these rap stars like 50 cent and Lil Kim are disgraces "Americans consume the most fast food than any nation on Earth and the stupid motherfuckers wonder why they are so fat? " - Oprah Winfrey | |
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DiamondGirl said: boriquateddy said: uhm not that anything they are doing is any better... Thank you. So stop singling out one genre of music. I myself singled out no specific genre for the record...this individual is sharing and expressing their opinions and sentiments on the whole situation in hip hop music,I myself not really being a fan of the artists you yourself mentioned express no intrest in what they are going through,now if it makes you feel any better maybe you should start a thread singling out heroine addicted unruley law breaking rock artists,that way we can clear the notion of any racial conspiracy theories you obviously were trying to conjure up with your response. GOODNESS!!!!! does everything have to be Blanco y Negro???? I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back. I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there. I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish. And I am | |
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Anxiety said: DiamondGirl said: Thank you. So stop singling out one genre of music. i'm not placing blame on the rap/hip-hop community, but i think there IS a pressure on mainstream rap artists to rely on cartoonish violence and hyper-materialism in their work and in their imagery in order to fulfill a standard of chart success. i don't think it was considered "trendy" for cobain to kill himself or for scott weiland to be a career junkie, any more than billie holiday was trying to be "hip" by having an addiction or any more than karen carpenter was trying to make anorexia cool. again, i'm not saying this to bust on hip-hop...i think the music industry is to blame. of course, the artists are complicit...but that's more of an individual thing than the fault of a genre. I see and agree with your point. But there HAS been the rap/arrest sheet as rock clout PR machine as well. Just not in the choices I've stated above. | |
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boriquateddy said: DiamondGirl said: Thank you. So stop singling out one genre of music. I myself singled out no specific genre for the record...this individual is sharing and expressing their opinions and sentiments on the whole situation in hip hop music,I myself not really being a fan of the artists you yourself mentioned express no intrest in what they are going through,now if it makes you feel any better maybe you should start a thread singling out heroine addicted unruley law breaking rock artists,that way we can clear the notion of any racial conspiracy theories you obviously were trying to conjure up with your response. GOODNESS!!!!! does everything have to be Blanco y Negro????  | |
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(Boogie man business) Listen All white men is runnin this rap shit Corporate force's runnin this rap shit Setae israli is runnin this rap shit We poke out the asses for a chance to cash in Cocaine, is runnin this rap shit 'Dro, 'yac and E-pills is runnin this rap shit The rape over, turn your face over nigga No god in disguise it's me, game over Hey lil souljahs you're ready for more? But don't ask what you're fighting for They thought that you sur--vived the gunfight, the drama, the stress You get in the line of fire we get the big ass cheques You gettin your choice to pimp Make your choice and fall in This is austral B I, take that cock in your behind, Beatch Hit the streets and perform for us Hold hard and bring it on to us, fucker I let you sip, comes an army, get a Mercedes And kick back and let you pay me, my Mack is crazy I leave the, knife and fist fight filled with glamour Yeah, take a picture what this platinum-plated the sledgehammer We over-do it add the fire and explosion to it We're so confused with one rap music Mtv, is runnin this rap shit Viacom is runnin this rap shit AOL and Time Warner runnin this rap shit We poke out the asses for a chance to cash in Cocaine, is runnin this rap shit Hennessey, is runnin this rap shit Quasi-  is runnin this rap shit
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DiamondGirl said: I see and agree with your point. But there HAS been the rap/arrest sheet as rock clout PR machine as well. Just not in the choices I've stated above. you're right, but i think we may be talking about two different things. i don't think that the record labels are encouraging rock stars or R&B stars to have addictions or get into trouble with the law. i think that the pressures of fame probably have a lot to do with it, and the "lifestyle" of being in that world, but i don't think when a label is building an artist's image, they say "okay, we want everyone to think you're a heroin junkie and if you could drive irresponsibly, that would be really great too." meanwhile, the whole thug/gangsta/bling stereotype is one that i believe the industry encourages, and i think it's got to be damn hard for a hip-hop act today to thrive without giving into that cliche'd image. i also think there are some soulless people out there who are so unconfident about their talent that they've totally embraced these cliches to get by, and that kind of dysfunction in the music community is what's gotta change ASAP...even asthetically, it feels to me like hip-hop is spinning its wheels. | |
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boriquateddy said:[quote] DiamondGirl said: Thank you. So stop singling out one genre of music. I myself singled out no specific genre for the record.
I didn't mean you specifically. I meant in general. ..this individual is sharing and expressing their opinions and sentiments on the whole situation in hip hop music,I myself not really being a fan of the artists you yourself mentioned express no intrest in what they are going through,now if it makes you feel any better maybe you should start a thread singling out heroine addicted unruley law breaking rock artists,that way we can clear the notion of any racial conspiracy theories you obviously were trying to conjure up with your response.
GOODNESS!!!!! does everything have to be Blanco y Negro???? No, but it appears you want it to be so you can decry it for whatever reasons, since you are blowing it way out of proportion as well as being presumptuous (whereas I have already agreed above that I may have been mistaken in my interpretation of the threads originators' intent). . [Edited 8/10/05 21:39pm] | |
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Anxiety said: DiamondGirl said: I see and agree with your point. But there HAS been the rap/arrest sheet as rock clout PR machine as well. Just not in the choices I've stated above. you're right, but i think we may be talking about two different things. i don't think that the record labels are encouraging rock stars or R&B stars to have addictions or get into trouble with the law. i think that the pressures of fame probably have a lot to do with it, and the "lifestyle" of being in that world, but i don't think when a label is building an artist's image, they say "okay, we want everyone to think you're a heroin junkie and if you could drive irresponsibly, that would be really great too." meanwhile, the whole thug/gangsta/bling stereotype is one that i believe the industry encourages, and i think it's got to be damn hard for a hip-hop act today to thrive without giving into that cliche'd image. i also think there are some soulless people out there who are so unconfident about their talent that they've totally embraced these cliches to get by, and that kind of dysfunction in the music community is what's gotta change ASAP...even asthetically, it feels to me like hip-hop is spinning its wheels. "The Wright brothers cant fuck with that"-Morris. So I wont either (i.e. I agree). | |
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Zelaira said: The more I read about them peddling CRACK,DRUGS and WEAPONS and being in Gangs and all this VIOLENCE..BORES ME!!! Just read 50 cent's posse all arrested in NYC. LIL KIM ARRESTED. DMX has his Problems. Why can't you make MUSIC WITHOUT WAREFARE and VIOLENCE? That's NOT COOL for the YOUTH of TODAY!!! I'm Bored.....How bout U?
ya know zel, i totally agree with ya, but think of it like this: these people were gangsters, druggies etc.. whaever b4 they got famous. they fucked up, got locked up and got shot up b4 they got famous. it aint like they got the dough and then said hey i got an idea! lets start beef and get arrested and do drugs! can we REALLY expect them to change just cuz they shining now? Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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CinisterCee said: Zelaira said: I love all this music and I Love P Diddy also. Fat Joe is Cool,Ludicris Rules and Snoop is Sexy as a Pimp. I also Love JayZ's sound sooo Much. I have always loved Rap and well what can I say? The Guys are Strapped Man and they sing all tough and all Sexin and well ya Gotta love them... Prince will Always be First but I Really Love the Rappers style....I get Bored when it's too Subdued. I like Wild and fast and Nasty and Raw. Just the way it is. I gotta have it like that as bad and as Nasty as it is I LOVe IT is All. 50 Cent is EXTREMELY SEXY and Sings all Tough...I Find him Very Hot....Ja has a Voice and he talks like he badass in the BEDROOM...Nelly is All into the WILD Thing and Ya got all Ludicris is PARTYING and Sex and well they are all WILD! ALL Wild and NASTY and I LIKE THAT...I REALLY DO!!! It's Party and Fun Music it don't gotta be all messages and meaningful just fun and games...
[Edited 8/30/04 23:02pm] http://www.prince.org/msg...80?jump=22 damn are you trying to bust her out??? I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Moonwalkbjrain said: Zelaira said: The more I read about them peddling CRACK,DRUGS and WEAPONS and being in Gangs and all this VIOLENCE..BORES ME!!! Just read 50 cent's posse all arrested in NYC. LIL KIM ARRESTED. DMX has his Problems. Why can't you make MUSIC WITHOUT WAREFARE and VIOLENCE? That's NOT COOL for the YOUTH of TODAY!!! I'm Bored.....How bout U?
ya know zel, i totally agree with ya, but think of it like this: these people were gangsters, druggies etc.. whaever b4 they got famous. they fucked up, got locked up and got shot up b4 they got famous. it aint like they got the dough and then said hey i got an idea! lets start beef and get arrested and do drugs! can we REALLY expect them to change just cuz they shining now? well what i find interesting is that Tupac didn't even have an arrest record...until he after he started rapping..  I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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missfee said: Moonwalkbjrain said: ya know zel, i totally agree with ya, but think of it like this: these people were gangsters, druggies etc.. whaever b4 they got famous. they fucked up, got locked up and got shot up b4 they got famous. it aint like they got the dough and then said hey i got an idea! lets start beef and get arrested and do drugs! can we REALLY expect them to change just cuz they shining now? well what i find interesting is that Tupac didn't even have an arrest record...until he after he started rapping..  isn't that interesting.... | |
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missfee said: Moonwalkbjrain said: ya know zel, i totally agree with ya, but think of it like this: these people were gangsters, druggies etc.. whaever b4 they got famous. they fucked up, got locked up and got shot up b4 they got famous. it aint like they got the dough and then said hey i got an idea! lets start beef and get arrested and do drugs! can we REALLY expect them to change just cuz they shining now? well what i find interesting is that Tupac didn't even have an arrest record...until he after he started rapping.. "I never had a record until I had a record" - Tupac | |
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missfee said: Moonwalkbjrain said: ya know zel, i totally agree with ya, but think of it like this: these people were gangsters, druggies etc.. whaever b4 they got famous. they fucked up, got locked up and got shot up b4 they got famous. it aint like they got the dough and then said hey i got an idea! lets start beef and get arrested and do drugs! can we REALLY expect them to change just cuz they shining now? well what i find interesting is that Tupac didn't even have an arrest record...until he after he started rapping.. he got pimped out by the industry...becuase he went from Digital Underground MC/Back up dancer to Thug Life...WTF??? we all know DU wasn't no gangstas. I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back. I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there. I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish. And I am | |
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missfee said: Moonwalkbjrain said: ya know zel, i totally agree with ya, but think of it like this: these people were gangsters, druggies etc.. whaever b4 they got famous. they fucked up, got locked up and got shot up b4 they got famous. it aint like they got the dough and then said hey i got an idea! lets start beef and get arrested and do drugs! can we REALLY expect them to change just cuz they shining now? well what i find interesting is that Tupac didn't even have an arrest record...until he after he started rapping.. yea i know. but i aint talkin about tupac. my post wasn't in reference to dudes who got the light and started thinkin they was invincible. or got fucked by the industry. i'm talkin bout the dudes that was on the corner and packin and all that BEFORE the fame Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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