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Thread started 08/06/05 2:39pm

dreamfactory31
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Where Madonna learned how to be Madonna

from: buysellmadonna.com


"Media sensationalism has plagued Madonna for many years, and sometimes her early days have been made to sound more dramatic than they probably were. The truth is probably somewhere between the published extremes. Her early press described Madonna as growing up in poor, racially integrated neighborhoods that somehow helped shaped her world vision and her music. She was raised in two Detroit suburbs, Pontiac and the upper middle class Rochester Hills. Both of these cities reside in Oakland County, one of the most affluent in America. A few miles away are many homes of the corporate elite that work in the auto industry and related fields. Aretha Franklin also lives nearby. The Ciccone family in fact, did well enough to send her to a private catholic elementary school.

Her ballet teacher Christopher Flynn exposed Madonna to a wider cultural horizon. He took Madonna to art museums, and one of their frequent haunts was the mostly gay disco, Menjos, in Detroit. It was there she learned about racial and sexual diversity, and the dance club scene. With Flynn's encouragement, Madonna decided to pursue a professional dancing career. She enrolled at the University Of Michigan in Ann Arbor after graduating from Rochester Adams High. There she would meet her future song writing and production collaborator Stephen Bray at the now closed Blue Frog Disco over a Gin & Tonic. In the years to come, the pair would collaborate to produce several international top 5 hits including "Into The Grove", "Angel", "True Blue", "Each Time You Break My Heart", "Causing A Commotion", "Express Yourself", and "Keep It Together. At that time however, she had no intention of becoming a songwriter or vocalist. In the end, neither career could take off in Michigan. In the summer of 1978 she attended a dance workshop in North Carolina, and then left Bray behind to obtain real work in New York City that July."



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Reply #1 posted 08/06/05 2:47pm

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In the summer of 1978 she attended a dance workshop in North Carolina, and then left Bray behind to obtain real work in New York City that July."

Yeah, that "real work" turned out to be Dunkin Donuts in Manhattan. lol
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Reply #2 posted 08/06/05 2:51pm

TonyVanDam

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dreamfactory313 said:

Yeah, that "real work" turned out to be Dunkin Donuts in Manhattan. lol


All jokes aside, Madonna did pay her due from working fast-food at one point. cool
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Reply #3 posted 08/06/05 2:59pm

VoicesCarry

Clearly, if Madonna was fucking her ballet teacher and got something out of it, she knew all she needed to know already.
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Reply #4 posted 08/06/05 4:21pm

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VoicesCarry said:

Clearly, if Madonna was fucking her ballet teacher and got something out of it, she knew all she needed to know already.

lol I dont think Chris Flynn and Madonna were sexual. He was gay, wasnt he?
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Reply #5 posted 08/06/05 4:41pm

VoicesCarry

dreamfactory313 said:

VoicesCarry said:

Clearly, if Madonna was fucking her ballet teacher and got something out of it, she knew all she needed to know already.

lol I dont think Chris Flynn and Madonna were sexual. He was gay, wasnt he?


Knowing Madonna, she was probably still fucking him. lol
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Reply #6 posted 08/06/05 5:08pm

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VoicesCarry said:

dreamfactory313 said:


lol I dont think Chris Flynn and Madonna were sexual. He was gay, wasnt he?


Knowing Madonna, she was probably still fucking him. lol




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no no no! show some respect! mad
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Reply #7 posted 08/06/05 5:14pm

CinisterCee

Chico319 said:

VoicesCarry said:



Knowing Madonna, she was probably still fucking him. lol




4 voices brick
4 dreamfactory brick


no no no! show some respect! mad


yeah!












cuz chris flynn is dead.
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Reply #8 posted 08/06/05 5:26pm

dreamfactory31
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Chico319 said:

VoicesCarry said:



Knowing Madonna, she was probably still fucking him. lol




4 voices brick
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no no no! show some respect! mad

Respect Sent. smile


Chris Flynn and Madonna pose for a shot in 1978.
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Reply #9 posted 08/06/05 5:29pm

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VoicesCarry said:

dreamfactory313 said:


lol I dont think Chris Flynn and Madonna were sexual. He was gay, wasnt he?


Knowing Madonna, she was probably still fucking him. lol


Agree. neutral
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Reply #10 posted 08/06/05 5:30pm

TonyVanDam

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CinisterCee said:

Chico319 said:





4 voices brick
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no no no! show some respect! mad


yeah!












cuz chris flynn is dead.


True OR False? Flynn died of AIDS.
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Reply #11 posted 08/06/05 5:34pm

dreamfactory31
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As far as I know Chris Flynn did die of AIDS.
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Reply #12 posted 08/06/05 6:02pm

CinisterCee

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just cuz lol
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Reply #13 posted 08/06/05 6:04pm

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dreamfactory313 said:

As far as I know Chris Flynn did die of AIDS.



ok people people do not die of AIDS.

they die of an infection that normally would have been taken care by the body's immue system.

Christoper Flynn, Martin Burgouye, and Keith Harring are who the song In This Life is dedicated to.
You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
authentic power is service- Pope Francis
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Reply #14 posted 08/06/05 6:35pm

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I actually know the person she screwed! She is a friend, she started EVERY look, and allot of the lyrics that made her famous.

she got fucked over. mad
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Reply #15 posted 08/06/05 6:44pm

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ElectricBlue said:

I actually know the person she screwed! She is a friend, she started EVERY look, and allot of the lyrics that made her famous.

she got fucked over. mad


What was the name of THAT woman?
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Reply #16 posted 08/06/05 9:03pm

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friend,
stop hating madonna for having sold more records than janet jackson! i love that jan damita jo too...but damn bwah!


VoicesCarry said:

dreamfactory313 said:


lol I dont think Chris Flynn and Madonna were sexual. He was gay, wasnt he?


Knowing Madonna, she was probably still fucking him. lol
I'll leave it alone babe...just be me
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Reply #17 posted 08/07/05 5:46am

VoicesCarry

TonyVanDam said:

ElectricBlue said:

I actually know the person she screwed! She is a friend, she started EVERY look, and allot of the lyrics that made her famous.

she got fucked over. mad


What was the name of THAT woman?


Madogga, her evil alter-ego.
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Reply #18 posted 08/07/05 5:47am

VoicesCarry

badujunkie said:

friend,
stop hating madonna for having sold more records than janet jackson! i love that jan damita jo too...but damn bwah!


VoicesCarry said:



Knowing Madonna, she was probably still fucking him. lol


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Reply #19 posted 08/07/05 7:24am

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ehuffnsd said:

dreamfactory313 said:

As far as I know Chris Flynn did die of AIDS.



ok people people do not die of AIDS.

they die of an infection that normally would have been taken care by the body's immue system.

Christoper Flynn, Martin Burgouye, and Keith Harring are who the song In This Life is dedicated to.

Youre right. My bad.
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Reply #20 posted 08/07/05 8:23am

SassyBritches

ehuffnsd said:

dreamfactory313 said:

As far as I know Chris Flynn did die of AIDS.



ok people people do not die of AIDS.

they die of an infection that normally would have been taken care by the body's immue system.

Christoper Flynn, Martin Burgouye, and Keith Harring are who the song In This Life is dedicated to.

well, yeah, he dies form AIDS. if he didn't have AIDS any minor infection would not have killed him. perhaps technically he did not die from AIDS but make no mistake that it was AIDS that killed him.

as for the topic...madonna learned to be madonna the same way we all learned to be who we are. life experiences. just because she's famous doesn't mean she's any different from all of us.
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Reply #21 posted 08/07/05 1:23pm

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SassyBritches said:

ehuffnsd said:




ok people people do not die of AIDS.

they die of an infection that normally would have been taken care by the body's immue system.

Christoper Flynn, Martin Burgouye, and Keith Harring are who the song In This Life is dedicated to.

well, yeah, he dies form AIDS. if he didn't have AIDS any minor infection would not have killed him. perhaps technically he did not die from AIDS but make no mistake that it was AIDS that killed him.

as for the topic...madonna learned to be madonna the same way we all learned to be who we are. life experiences. just because she's famous doesn't mean she's any different from all of us.



to be techinical since the advent of new medications people don't die of the same things as they did before. Most AIDS related deaths now have to do with the complications from Medication. Herb Ritts died of a Heart Attack that was caused by his HIV meds. Also the three stages of HIV infection Asymptomatic, Symtomatic and AIDS aren't as rigid as they used to be. The clinical defination of AIDS now I belive is 200 or less T-cells. But say you change meds or get on meds and your Tcells go up you still have an AIDS diagnosis.
You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
authentic power is service- Pope Francis
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Reply #22 posted 08/07/05 4:23pm

SassyBritches

ehuffnsd said:

SassyBritches said:


well, yeah, he dies form AIDS. if he didn't have AIDS any minor infection would not have killed him. perhaps technically he did not die from AIDS but make no mistake that it was AIDS that killed him.

as for the topic...madonna learned to be madonna the same way we all learned to be who we are. life experiences. just because she's famous doesn't mean she's any different from all of us.



to be techinical since the advent of new medications people don't die of the same things as they did before. Most AIDS related deaths now have to do with the complications from Medication. Herb Ritts died of a Heart Attack that was caused by his HIV meds. Also the three stages of HIV infection Asymptomatic, Symtomatic and AIDS aren't as rigid as they used to be. The clinical defination of AIDS now I belive is 200 or less T-cells. But say you change meds or get on meds and your Tcells go up you still have an AIDS diagnosis.

i understand all the technical, medical terms but if you don't have AIDS these things will not kill you. you can't very well die from side effects of AIDS meds if you are not on AIDS meds. if you don't have AIDS you don't need the AIDS meds therefore if you die from side effects of AIDS meds because you have AIDS it can certainly be said that AIDS killed you. no sense in cleaning it up. people still need to be aware that AIDS does indeed kill.
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Reply #23 posted 08/07/05 7:28pm

dreamfactory31
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I didnt expect this threa dto turn into an AIDS education thread but Im sure someone can use the info anyway. smile
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Reply #24 posted 08/07/05 7:38pm

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SassyBritches said:

ehuffnsd said:




to be techinical since the advent of new medications people don't die of the same things as they did before. Most AIDS related deaths now have to do with the complications from Medication. Herb Ritts died of a Heart Attack that was caused by his HIV meds. Also the three stages of HIV infection Asymptomatic, Symtomatic and AIDS aren't as rigid as they used to be. The clinical defination of AIDS now I belive is 200 or less T-cells. But say you change meds or get on meds and your Tcells go up you still have an AIDS diagnosis.

i understand all the technical, medical terms but if you don't have AIDS these things will not kill you. you can't very well die from side effects of AIDS meds if you are not on AIDS meds. if you don't have AIDS you don't need the AIDS meds therefore if you die from side effects of AIDS meds because you have AIDS it can certainly be said that AIDS killed you. no sense in cleaning it up. people still need to be aware that AIDS does indeed kill.



Ignorance and apathy kills
You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
authentic power is service- Pope Francis
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Reply #25 posted 08/07/05 10:25pm

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Where Madonna learned how to be Madonna ??


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Reply #26 posted 08/07/05 11:20pm

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twink69 said:

Where Madonna learned how to be Madonna ??




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