list your favs

shhh.. i have to think this o' carefully. ..... i'll be back
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"Old School" could be defined as at least 10 years out OR 20 years out. So I'll take a middle ground and define "Old School" as any albums released during or before 1990. In no particular order:

1. Public Enemy -- It Takes A Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back
2. De La Soul -- 3 Feet High and Rising
3. N.W.A. -- Straight Outta Compton
4. Too Short -- Born To Mack
5. KMD -- Mr. Hood
6. Brand Nubian -- All For One
7. A Tribe Called Quest -- People's Instinctive Travels and Paths of Rhythm
8. The Jungle Brothers -- Done By The Forces of Nature
9. LL Cool J -- Radio
10. Boogie Down Productions -- Edutainment
11. The Beastie Boys -- Licensed to Ill
12. Run-DMC -- Raising Hell
13. EPMD -- Strictly Business
14. The D.O.C. -- No One Can Do It Better
15. Ice Cube -- AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted
16. Public Enemy -- Fear of a Black Planet
17. Eric B. & Rakim -- Paid In Full
18. Paris -- The Devil Made Me Do It
19. Slick Rick -- The Great Adventures of Slick Rick
20. Queen Latifah -- All Hail The Queen

1. Paid In Full - Eric B. & Rakim
2. By Any Means - BDP
3. It Takes A Nation Of Millons - Public Enemy
4. Long Live The Kane - Big Daddy Kane
5. Mamma Said Knock You Out - LL Cool J
6. Raising Hell - Run DMC
7. De La Soul - 3 Feet High And Rising
9. The Great Adventures Of..... - Slick Rick
10. Straight Outta Compton - N.W.A.
11. Strictly Bussiness - EPMD
12. No One Can Do It Better - D.O.C.
13. P.I.T.A.P.O.R. - Tribe
14. Criminal Minded - BDP
15. Fear Of A Black Planet - Public Enemy
16. Amerikkka's Most Wanted - Ice Cube
17. It's A Big Daddy Thing - Big Daddy Kane
18. Let The Rhythm Hit'Em - Eric B. & Rakim
19. Eyes On This - Mc Lyte
20. King Of Rock - Run DMC
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Neither of you liked Run DMC's first album enough to put it in your top 20? Dang.

sextonseven said:

I thought about it.

It's not a matter of liking, it's a matter of experience. I wasn't a full-on hip-hop head until between the time the first joint came out and the time Raising Hell came out. Plus, Raising Hell had more of an impact than the first joint did.

You can't be wrong either way.

"Here's mine..i think"


1.Public Enemy - Yo' Bum Rush The Show (87)
2.Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded (87)
3.Ice Cube - Death Certificate (91)
4 Big Daddy Kane - Long Live The Kane (88)
5.Too Short - Life Is... (88)
6.Whodini - Back In Black (86)
7.Run D.M.C - Raising Hell (86)
8.Eric B. & Rakim - Paid In Full (87)
9.De-La Soul - 3 ft.& Rising (89)
10.The D.O.C - No One Can Do It Better(89)
11.Eazy E. - Eazy-Duz-It (88)
12.N.W.A.- Straight Outta Compton (89)
13.Beastie Boys - License To Ill (86)
14.LL Cool J - Radio (85)
15.Run D.M.C - Run D.M.C (84)
16.Ice T - Power (88)
17.Biz Markie - Goin Off (88)
18.Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back (88)
19.Dr. Dre - The Cronic (92)
20.Snoop Dogg - Doggy Style (93)


Shh... "Gotta Lotta Mo"

I can't do a Top 20, but here's a couple more that are worth consideration:

Public Enemy - Apocalypse '91 - The Enemy Strikes Black
De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead

Both great IMO.

sextonseven said:

Run DMC'S first album is good,but King Of Rock and Raising Hell are great IMO

I could probably cobble together my own list from the 3 that have already been compiled.

Good job, I think we're all on the right track

I love this stuff. I've debated this numerous times. I only do 10 though...

The Immortals:

Criminal Minded - Boogie Down Productions
It Takes A Nation Of Millions - Public Enemy
The Low End Theory - A Tribe Called Quest
Paul's Boutique - Beastie Boys
Paid In Full - Eric B. and Rakim
Run D.M.C. - Run D.M.C.
All For One - Brand Nubian
3 Feet High and Rising - De La Soul
Strictly Business - EPMD
Straight Outta Compton - N.W.A.

Can we get a consensus definition of OLD SCHOOL? Is it

a) ten years or more
b) 15 years or more
c) 20 years or more

What do y'all think????

Funny, cuz true Old School is before Run DMC, who had the first album.

CinisterCee said:

True, but that's when hip-hop was in its purest form. But there are so many eras in hip-hop, and it's gone on for so long, that it's hard to define "old school." Hell, with Soul music, Earth, Wind and Fire is considered "Old School," but the Platters could arguably be true "old school." Same with jazz. Coltrane could be considered "classic" jazz, but one could argue that Fats Waller is "true" old school.

It really depends on your frame of reference. Cin-Cee, you strike me as being down with hip-hop from the very beginning. I, on the other hand, was down with "old school" (pre-album era) in the days of Sugar Hill Gang, but only vaguely. My main frame of reference is the mid-80's on.

Good point tho.

Crictical Beatdown- Ultramagnetic Mc's

Anybody?

sinisterpentatonic said:

tight one, indeed.

sinisterpentatonic said:

That woulda been on my list.

namepeace said:

I have read and listened to the stories of those who were there in the very beginning.

But I have you fooled because "King Tim III (Personality Jock)" is older than I am!


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CinisterCee said:

fucking hell, you sure learned your lessons

or probably you meant the guy, not the song
.
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Dancelot said:

No, the Fatback song... that's why it's in quotes.

CinisterCee said:

of course, I was just foolin'

well I'm somewhere in between.. certainly older than the song but younger than the guy.. at least I hope so
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Probably this...

Run-D.M.C.--Run D.M.C.
King Of Rock--Run D.M.C.
Raising Hell--Run D.M.C.
Fat Boys--Fat Boys
Radio--LL Cool J
I'm Bad--LL Cool J
License To Ill--Beastie Boys
Swass--Sir Mix-A-Lot
It Takes Two--Rob Base & DJ Easy-Rock
Lost In Space--Jonzun Crew
Long Live The Kane--Big Daddy Kane
Eazy-Duz-it--Easzy-E
Straight Outta Compton--N.W.A.
No One Can Do It Better--The D.O.C.
Strictly Business--E.P.M.D.
Amerikkka's Most Wanted--Ice Cube
Paid in Full--Eric B. & Rakim
It's a Big Daddy Thing--Big Daddy Kane
Back In Black--Whodini
As Nasty As They Wanna Be--2 Live Crew

oh, and the true old shcool hip-hop: 20 years or more
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[Edited 8/9/05 18:49pm]

I've been listening to The Fat Boys Are Back lately.

Their self-titled debut is one of my favorites.



bd-d-d-d--d-d-d--d--d-d- STICK'EM!

CinisterCee said:

Coo'! Then you can relate!

Some of the best stuff from the 1980s was released on a 12 Inch and never on an album. Some of them are:

Planet Rock - Soul Sonic Force
Electric Kingdom - Twilight 22
Siberian Nights - Twilight 22
What People Do For Money - Divine Sounds
New York, New York - Grandmaster Flash
Ya Mama - Wuff Ticket
Funk You Right On Up - The Sequence
The Party Has Begun - Freestyle
Jam The Box - Pretty Tony
Street Freaks - Jimmy Lewis and the LA Street Band
Reckless - Chris "The Glove" Taylor and David Storrs featuring Ice T
Rappin' Duke - Shawn Brown
Buggin' - Whistle
Pee Wee's Dance - Joeski Love
The Show - Doug E. Fresh and the Get Fresh Crew

Also the albums by:

Newcleus
Run DMC
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five
Whodini
The Egyptian Lover
LA Dream Team
The Fat Boys
Kurtis Blow
The Sugarhill Gang
The first UTFO album and all the "Roxanne Roxanne" replies by other artists.

Edit to save & think about it!

vainandy said:

I stopped at "Roxanne's a Man." But I had them all . . .

Roxanne, Roxanne
Roxanne's Revenge
The Real Roxanne
Queen of Rox

namepeace said:

I had the first three plus "Roxanne's Doctor - The Real Man" by Dr Freshh.

sextonseven said:

I remember you recommending this one to me, but I haven't been able to find it!