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There is no such thing as a "musical genius" The term "musical genius" is thrown around alot as of late, personally I don't see it. Prince plays many musical instruments, but can't get a song on MTV, Stevie Wonder hasn't put out a good album in over 20 years, same as Paul McCartney.
Explain this to me people: If they are a "musical genius", why don't they stick to made them popular?? That would seem to be a "common sense" type of move... | |
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Being on MTV in no way, shape or form makes somebody a genius. | |
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sitruk7 said: Being on MTV in no way, shape or form makes somebody a genius.
A marketing genius, perhaps....But having musical talent and being popular stopped having anything in common a long time ago. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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thecableguy said: The term "musical genius" is thrown around alot as of late, personally I don't see it. Prince plays many musical instruments, but can't get a song on MTV, Stevie Wonder hasn't put out a good album in over 20 years, same as Paul McCartney.
Explain this to me people: If they are a "musical genius", why don't they stick to made them popular?? That would seem to be a "common sense" type of move... The boldness to step away from the past and attempt something new is part of what makes a musical genius a musical genius. | |
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sitruk7 said: Being on MTV in no way, shape or form makes somebody a genius.
tell that to people who think slim shady is a genuis!!! | |
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thecableguy said: The term "musical genius" is thrown around alot as of late, personally I don't see it. Prince plays many musical instruments, but can't get a song on MTV, Stevie Wonder hasn't put out a good album in over 20 years, same as Paul McCartney.
Explain this to me people: If they are a "musical genius", why don't they stick to made them popular?? That would seem to be a "common sense" type of move... Many geniuses were not popular during their lifetime. [Edited 7/31/05 19:15pm] | |
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sitruk7 said: thecableguy said: The term "musical genius" is thrown around alot as of late, personally I don't see it. Prince plays many musical instruments, but can't get a song on MTV, Stevie Wonder hasn't put out a good album in over 20 years, same as Paul McCartney.
Explain this to me people: If they are a "musical genius", why don't they stick to made them popular?? That would seem to be a "common sense" type of move... The boldness to step away from the past and attempt something new is part of what makes a musical genius a musical genius. Amen..  | |
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meow85 said: sitruk7 said: Being on MTV in no way, shape or form makes somebody a genius.
A marketing genius, perhaps....But having musical talent and being popular stopped having anything in common a long time ago. hence me having mad respect for madonna's marketing skills..and very lil respect for her music....(this is not me declaring i hate madge's music..i like to listen to a lot of it...but its fluff...).. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: meow85 said: A marketing genius, perhaps....But having musical talent and being popular stopped having anything in common a long time ago. hence me having mad respect for madonna's marketing skills..and very lil respect for her music....(this is not me declaring i hate madge's music..i like to listen to a lot of it...but its fluff...).. 8 posts in and this is now a Madonna thread. A new record!  | |
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VoicesCarryFurther said: sosgemini said: hence me having mad respect for madonna's marketing skills..and very lil respect for her music....(this is not me declaring i hate madge's music..i like to listen to a lot of it...but its fluff...).. 8 posts in and this is now a Madonna thread. A new record! well.....  Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: meow85 said: A marketing genius, perhaps....But having musical talent and being popular stopped having anything in common a long time ago. hence me having mad respect for madonna's marketing skills..and very lil respect for her music....(this is not me declaring i hate madge's music..i like to listen to a lot of it...but its fluff...)..
Got nothing against her music. It's fluffy and fun, but challenging and thought-provoking it is not. She's one helluva businesswoman though.  "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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thecableguy said: The term "musical genius" is thrown around alot as of late, personally I don't see it. Prince plays many musical instruments, but can't get a song on MTV, Stevie Wonder hasn't put out a good album in over 20 years, same as Paul McCartney.
Explain this to me people: If they are a "musical genius", why don't they stick to made them popular?? That would seem to be a "common sense" type of move... being genius has never been popular Don't hurt me, I'm a newb. I'm supposed to be stupid. | |
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thecableguy said: The term "musical genius" is thrown around alot as of late, personally I don't see it. Prince plays many musical instruments, but can't get a song on MTV, Stevie Wonder hasn't put out a good album in over 20 years, same as Paul McCartney.
Explain this to me people: If they are a "musical genius", why don't they stick to made them popular?? That would seem to be a "common sense" type of move... Being a musical genius has nothing to do with the number of appearances on a television network which is geared towards a demographic under 25. Nor is there a "what have you done for me lately?" requirement for musical geniuses. Their musical output survives the test of time. Surely you realize that to say that Stevie Wonder is not a musical genius now because Talking Book and Songs In The Key of Life are over 30 years old is absurd. And what if they are deceased? Is John Coltrane not a musical genius because his music isn't in "heavy ro" on Hot 97? Is Miles Davis not a genius because Fitty hasn't remixed Sketches of Spain and gotten the video on TRL? Come on, now. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: Is Miles Davis not a genius because Fitty hasn't remixed Sketches of Spain and gotten the video on TRL? Come on, now.
*shudder* Let's not give G-Unit any ideas... | |
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meow85 said: sosgemini said: hence me having mad respect for madonna's marketing skills..and very lil respect for her music....(this is not me declaring i hate madge's music..i like to listen to a lot of it...but its fluff...)..
Got nothing against her music. It's fluffy and fun, but challenging and thought-provoking it is not. She's one helluva businesswoman though. But she's not the only one with good business & marketing sense.....  [Edited 8/1/05 9:34am] | |
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thecableguy said: The term "musical genius" is thrown around alot as of late, personally I don't see it. Prince plays many musical instruments, but can't get a song on MTV, Stevie Wonder hasn't put out a good album in over 20 years, same as Paul McCartney.
Explain this to me people: If they are a "musical genius", why don't they stick to made them popular?? That would seem to be a "common sense" type of move... Here's my 2 cents: You're pretty dumb. "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: thecableguy said: The term "musical genius" is thrown around alot as of late, personally I don't see it. Prince plays many musical instruments, but can't get a song on MTV, Stevie Wonder hasn't put out a good album in over 20 years, same as Paul McCartney.
Explain this to me people: If they are a "musical genius", why don't they stick to made them popular?? That would seem to be a "common sense" type of move... Here's my 2 cents: You're pretty dumb. |
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funkpill said: meow85 said:
Got nothing against her music. It's fluffy and fun, but challenging and thought-provoking it is not. She's one helluva businesswoman though. But she's not the only one with good business & marketing sense.....
[Edited 8/1/05 9:34am] why you rolling your eyes? did either of us say she was?  Space for sale... | |
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The term is over-used, but I do think there are music geniuses. Mozart was definitely a genius. I read that Mozart would work-out everything in his head before committing his compositions to paper. Chopin was a genius,too. I could list more, but many classical artists were geniuses.
As far as modern artists, mmmmm I don't know.  I used to think that Stevie Ray Vaughan was a sort of genius. In fact, Eric Clapton said during in interview that Stevie seem to be channeling from a higher-power when he played guitar.[Edited 8/1/05 19:11pm] | |
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The term may be overused, but there is such a thing, and I would definitely but prince, stevie and paul in that category. As many have pointed out, accessibility/popularity or commercial success is no measurement of genius or quality of any kind, nor is the consistency of a body of work. Everybody makes mistakes, and all things, including genius, are flawed. And btw, Stevie and Paul have made plenty of "good" albums since their prime, even if there haven't been any "great" ones in a couple decades. | |
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jacktheimprovident said: The term may be overused, but there is such a thing, and I would definitely but prince, stevie and paul in that category. As many have pointed out, accessibility/popularity or commercial success is no measurement of genius or quality of any kind, nor is the consistency of a body of work. Everybody makes mistakes, and all things, including genius, are flawed. And btw, Stevie and Paul have made plenty of "good" albums since their prime, even if there haven't been any "great" ones in a couple decades.
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TheCrucialExperience said: thecableguy said: The term "musical genius" is thrown around alot as of late, personally I don't see it. Prince plays many musical instruments, but can't get a song on MTV, Stevie Wonder hasn't put out a good album in over 20 years, same as Paul McCartney.
Explain this to me people: If they are a "musical genius", why don't they stick to made them popular?? That would seem to be a "common sense" type of move... Here's my 2 cents: You're pretty dumb. and here's mine....I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK!!!! | |
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I agree with a lot that's already been said. The term is overused thus misused. IMHO there have been very, VERY few true musical geniuses since the beginning of time. Most so-called musical geniuses are nothing but people who are extremeley dedicated to their craft. I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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thecableguy said: TheCrucialExperience said: Here's my 2 cents: You're pretty dumb. and here's mine....I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK!!!! That's cool. Just as long as you know I STILL believe you're pretty dumb. "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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No such thing as musical genius? AHEM!
 All good things they say never last... | |
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GottaLetitgo said: No such thing as musical genius? AHEM!
 Jesus, save me."But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: thecableguy said: and here's mine....I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK!!!! That's cool. Just as long as you know I STILL believe you're pretty dumb. nothing "dumb" about having a personal view young grasshopper!!!! | |
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Where does this leave Yanni?  | |
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thecableguy said: TheCrucialExperience said: That's cool. Just as long as you know I STILL believe you're pretty dumb. nothing "dumb" about having a personal view young grasshopper!!!! It's dumb when you base GENIUS off of LACK OF BEING ON MTV. "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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theSpark said: Where does this leave Yanni?
In the trash maybe?  "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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