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Reply #30 posted 07/31/05 3:54pm

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I wasn't talking about pop radio at all because most of the real funk never saw the light of day of pop radio. Most funk was played exclusively on R&B radio only.

Lionel Richie had already blown up years before Whitney with his very first solo album but his impact didn't influence everyone else to follow his lead like Whitney's impact did. Lionel did his thing and everyone else continued doing their's also.


Whitney did have some uptempo's. Walden was ahead of his time with his synths etc.....
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Reply #31 posted 07/31/05 8:41pm

Hotlegs

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vainandy said:



I wasn't talking about pop radio at all because most of the real funk never saw the light of day of pop radio. Most funk was played exclusively on R&B radio only.

Lionel Richie had already blown up years before Whitney with his very first solo album but his impact didn't influence everyone else to follow his lead like Whitney's impact did. Lionel did his thing and everyone else continued doing their's also.


Whitney did have some uptempo's. Walden was ahead of his time with his synths etc.....

nod All bullshit aside, you have a point.
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Reply #32 posted 08/01/05 1:38am

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I blame the hell out of gansta rap but I don't think it would have made such an impact if a void had not been there. In the late 1980s, after Whitney's huge rise, tons of other artists began watering down their music for pop appeal as well. Also, there were tons of them that made entire albums of nothing but ballads.

Some of the funkiest jams on the radio in the late 1980s were songs by rap artists such as The Egyptian Lover, The LA Dream Team, Run DMC, The 2 Live Crew, Afrorican, etc. That's all well and good because somebody had to speed up the pace and these guys were doing it because the funk acts sure as hell weren't doing it anymore. They were too busy going after the pop market.

Also during this time, there were tons of underground rap acts with the slower midtempo "talking over a beat" music that eventually would come above ground and dominate the radio. By the time the 1990s arrived, house music, an uptempo disco type music, had come above ground and took the title as "dance" music. For a while, it seemed like we were back on track. Unlike the funk, though, these songs began to become extremely repetitive and it went back underground. Also, I noticed a sort of "gay" backlash with house as had occurred with disco a decade earlier. At least after the disco backlash, the funk was still around to regain it's throne. After the house backlash, the only thing remaining was gangsta rap and the adult contemporary balladeer type artists that Whitney Houston had inspired
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Agree! biggrin
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Reply #33 posted 08/01/05 4:54am

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thesexofit said:

Whitney did have some uptempo's.


Yes she did, but they were all weak, sugary, poppish, "girl next door, cheerleader" type songs. I remember when I first heard "How Will I Know".....

If he loves me, if he loves me not.....

I could just picture her in a cheerleader outfit, holding school books up to her chest, picking each pedal off of a flower to this line. I was looking for the first paper bag to throw up in. lol
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Reply #34 posted 08/01/05 6:41am

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missfee said:[quote]

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lastdecember said:

She is the only one that can make Bobby look almost human. Wow its amazing where Whitney has gone, talk about Free Fall, whether her tv show antics are for ratings or attention, this woman makes Anna Nicole SMith look sane. Whitney in my opinion is now in the class of Britney and Paris in the Reality Tv clowns.The scary thing is this will probably draw attention to any new music Whitney does, if any. As u can tell Im not a whitney fan at all, I have never liked her from day one, but as Whitney has gone on she has proven herself to be the "Daryl Strawberry" of the Music industry. What i mean by that is that "daryl" used to blame everyone for his Drug addictions, he blamed the media, baseball, the announcers, other players on his team, the fans, his upbringing, etc....but never blamed himself, never took responsibility for his own life. Whitney is in that caliber, now I dont know what Addictions Whitney has but she obviously has some, but everywhere i have heard her blame everyone but herself, she blames the industry, the media, etc.. I know some of you blame Bobby for her downfall, but honestly Bobby is to blame for Bobby, and whitney, well hopefully one day for her own sake she will have a darryl strawberry ending and finall blame herself and take the blame and grow up.


I caught 3 minutes of a clip from her show with Bobby, and she spent 3 minutes talking about how she had to take a "shit", wow what a talent! Wheres Jessica Simpson with her TUNA when u need her.[/quoe]


Years ago I read the book that Whitney's former bodyguard wrote & this was before she was with Bobby, and he stated that she acted straght ghetto even back then. She also used to get high with laced joints and she even wanted to go and buy the stuff off the street herself according to the book and again this was all before Bobby, but yet the majority of people blame Bobby for actions!

EXACTLY!!!
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I don't understand why ppl refuse to believe that. People close to Whitney have been saying for years that she was really ghetto and not the sweet young lady she put herself out to be. Not to say that she was being fake and she has no class. That public image is a part of her personality, but it's not the whole of her personality; it's just the part we got to see. People always blame Bobby for the drugs and the eratic behavior and say she never should have married him but in an interview with Sister 2 Sister magazine she said she has been a functioning junkie for years (even before Bobby) and those are her words! The truth is, they shouldn't have married each other before they got their shit together. That is definitely an enabling relationship. I hope they can get off (and stay off) the drugs and alcohol together
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Reply #35 posted 08/01/05 6:52am

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eldog98 said:[quote]

lastdecember said:

She is the only one that can make Bobby look almost human. Wow its amazing where Whitney has gone, talk about Free Fall, whether her tv show antics are for ratings or attention, this woman makes Anna Nicole SMith look sane. Whitney in my opinion is now in the class of Britney and Paris in the Reality Tv clowns.The scary thing is this will probably draw attention to any new music Whitney does, if any. As u can tell Im not a whitney fan at all, I have never liked her from day one, but as Whitney has gone on she has proven herself to be the "Daryl Strawberry" of the Music industry. What i mean by that is that "daryl" used to blame everyone for his Drug addictions, he blamed the media, baseball, the announcers, other players on his team, the fans, his upbringing, etc....but never blamed himself, never took responsibility for his own life. Whitney is in that caliber, now I dont know what Addictions Whitney has but she obviously has some, but everywhere i have heard her blame everyone but herself, she blames the industry, the media, etc.. I know some of you blame Bobby for her downfall, but honestly Bobby is to blame for Bobby, and whitney, well hopefully one day for her own sake she will have a darryl strawberry ending and finall blame herself and take the blame and grow up.


I caught 3 minutes of a clip from her show with Bobby, and she spent 3 minutes talking about how she had to take a "shit", wow what a talent! Wheres Jessica Simpson with her TUNA when u need her.[/quoe]


Years ago I read the book that Whitney's former bodyguard wrote & this was before she was with Bobby, and he stated that she acted straght ghetto even back then. She also used to get high with laced joints and she even wanted to go and buy the stuff off the street herself according to the book and again this was all before Bobby, but yet the majority of people blame Bobby for actions!
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Reply #36 posted 08/01/05 6:53am

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eldog98 said:




Years ago I read the book that Whitney's former bodyguard wrote & this was before she was with Bobby, and he stated that she acted straght ghetto even back then. She also used to get high with laced joints and she even wanted to go and buy the stuff off the street herself according to the book and again this was all before Bobby, but yet the majority of people blame Bobby for actions!


Oops. Dude....she's from Newark, New Jersey. She knew where to get a dime bag all along. The industry painted her as a princess. She was and is a roughneck.
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Reply #37 posted 08/01/05 6:59am

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Is she still signed to a label?
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Reply #38 posted 08/01/05 7:07am

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Reply #39 posted 08/01/05 7:17am

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Dewrede said:



evillol People can say what they want to about Rick James, but out of all his years of drug use, he never looked like this. evillol
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Reply #40 posted 08/01/05 7:19am

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smile actually it's really sad , tho'
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Reply #41 posted 08/01/05 7:20am

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vainandy said:



evillol People can say what they want to about Rick James, but out of all his years of drug use, he never looked like this. evillol


And you know that's after they enhanced that photo so that she wouldn't look as bad.

That's a pretty sexy olive ole look there if i must say so myself
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Reply #42 posted 08/01/05 7:29am

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KatSkrizzle said:

vainandy said:



evillol People can say what they want to about Rick James, but out of all his years of drug use, he never looked like this. evillol


And you know that's after they enhanced that photo so that she wouldn't look as bad.

That's a pretty sexy olive ole look there if i must say so myself


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Reply #43 posted 08/01/05 7:42am

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vainandy said:

lastdecember said:

She is the only one that can make Bobby look almost human. Wow its amazing where Whitney has gone, talk about Free Fall, whether her tv show antics are for ratings or attention, this woman makes Anna Nicole SMith look sane. Whitney in my opinion is now in the class of Britney and Paris in the Reality Tv clowns.


HEY!!!!! Leave her alone! This reality series is the most entertaining thing she has ever done. I'd much rather see her doing this show than boring the hell out me with her music.




It doesn't matter. She's already influenced an entire generation to record nothing but boring, rhythmless, adult contemporary type music. In the meantime, killing the funk and leaving the door open for hip hop to take over the other end of the spectrum that the adult contemporary didn't cover. It doesn't matter if her new music sells well or not, her damage has been done and I doubt we will ever be jamming again because of it.


As u can tell Im not a whitney fan at all, I have never liked her from day one


Alright now. Don't try to make me jealous. I hold that title. lol


giggle All of what you said here is funny...because it's TRUE!!!!
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Reply #44 posted 08/01/05 7:59am

Hotlegs

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vainandy said:



Alright now. Don't try to make me jealous. I hold that title. lol


giggle All of what you said here is funny...because it's TRUE!!!!

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Reply #45 posted 08/01/05 10:12pm

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vainandy said:

thesexofit said:

Whitney did have some uptempo's.


Yes she did, but they were all weak, sugary, poppish, "girl next door, cheerleader" type songs. I remember when I first heard "How Will I Know".....

If he loves me, if he loves me not.....

I could just picture her in a cheerleader outfit, holding school books up to her chest, picking each pedal off of a flower to this line. I was looking for the first paper bag to throw up in. lol


Classic statement!!!lol
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Reply #46 posted 08/01/05 10:13pm

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Marrk said:

Is she still signed to a label?


Sony/BMG
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Reply #47 posted 08/01/05 10:15pm

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vainandy said:



evillol People can say what they want to about Rick James, but out of all his years of drug use, he never looked like this. evillol


Correct! Drugs made Rick fat!!!cool
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Reply #48 posted 08/02/05 6:46am

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TonyVanDam said:

vainandy said:



evillol People can say what they want to about Rick James, but out of all his years of drug use, he never looked like this. evillol


Correct! Drugs made Rick fat!!!cool


No, getting off drugs, which slowed his metabolism, made him fat. Then he started agian out of jail
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Reply #49 posted 08/02/05 7:25am

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KatSkrizzle said:

TonyVanDam said:



Correct! Drugs made Rick fat!!!cool


No, getting off drugs, which slowed his metabolism, made him fat. Then he started agian out of jail


nod Yup, if Whitney ever gets off the pipe, she's gonna blow up like Star Jones!
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Reply #50 posted 08/03/05 2:08am

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There is NOTHING worse then "The Old Guy in The Club" eek lol Bobby & Whitney both are these people! There is just nothing funnier then 2 people that say terms from 15 years ago.

Everything Bobby & Whitney says & act like is from 1990! Eddie Murphy Raw Jokes, Martin TV Show, everything!!! eek eek eek lol eek mad

The Guy Guy in the club.

They are not cool anymore, it sounds stupid when you try to act cool and your 38 years old. Kids dont think your "with it" anymore.

Every Episode is just stupid thoughts or moments for like 1988 when they were on top! They so live in the past with their comments & sayings.

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By the way I LOVE the show! lol cool
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Reply #51 posted 08/03/05 2:10am

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Ain't nothing wrong with Eddie Murphy Raw jokes no no no!
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Reply #52 posted 08/03/05 2:13am

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Anyway, I SO hope UK TV picks this up, I mean just for Whitney. Bobby was only marginally successful over here but still really well known, but Whitney was huge.
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Reply #53 posted 08/03/05 3:39am

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JediMaster said:

KatSkrizzle said:



No, getting off drugs, which slowed his metabolism, made him fat. Then he started agian out of jail


nod Yup, if Whitney ever gets off the pipe, she's gonna blow up like Star Jones!

HA HA HA HA!!!

Didn't you see her performance with Bobby last year? I forgot which show it was, but Whitney had the biggest belly. If she doe sblow up, she's gonna look like an apple on sticks!
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Reply #54 posted 08/03/05 8:09am

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KatSkrizzle said:

JediMaster said:



nod Yup, if Whitney ever gets off the pipe, she's gonna blow up like Star Jones!

HA HA HA HA!!!

Didn't you see her performance with Bobby last year? I forgot which show it was, but Whitney had the biggest belly. If she doe sblow up, she's gonna look like an apple on sticks!


falloff

No, I missed that performance! Sounds like pure comic gold!
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